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Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: borderowl on May 19, 2013, 16:11

Title: help with brassicas
Post by: borderowl on May 19, 2013, 16:11
Hi folks! Having another go with brassicas, cabbage, sprouts, broccoli and cauli. lost them all last year to cabbage root fly. I'm starting to put them out to harden off, they're still in pots. Will they need any protection? If so what's best to use? thanks people. Kev
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: Dave Mack on May 19, 2013, 16:23
You could always use veg protection collars ... i dont bother myself  ;)
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: mumofstig on May 19, 2013, 16:54
You can use the collars to stop cabbage root fly, however you might as well cover with fine netting and stop the birds and butterflies as well  :D
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Post by: shoozie on May 19, 2013, 22:37
Having had root fly early last year on a netted bed, while the cabbage collars sat in their packet in the greenhouse  ..... collar and net for me from now on  :D. 
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: borderowl on May 20, 2013, 15:50
Thanks! How fine a netting do I need?Kev
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: devonbarmygardener on May 20, 2013, 16:33
I use enviromesh type netting - there are cheaper versions.
It's very fine and I use it for everything!
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Post by: barley on May 21, 2013, 22:18
hi kev

I use old pop bottles a couple of straight twigs and grass mulch !!!! all freebys
works every year for me
might loose the odd one but 99% grow on healthy

place cut pop bottle over transplaned seedlings with 2 twigs down the sides , then mulch with plenty of grass clippings ......... when baby cabbages etc are about 8 inches high remove sticks and bottle and bobs your uncle !!!!

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Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: allotmentor on May 22, 2013, 10:01
Agreed, netting and collars, although the latter can be made out of anything that will stop the eggs( laid by the adults around the base of the plant) from getting to the soil e.g cardboard, thick polythene, etc. - just make sure you cut slots around the hole in the middle to allow the stalk to expand as it grows.

Having had root fly early last year on a netted bed, while the cabbage collars sat in their packet in the greenhouse  ..... collar and net for me from now on  :D.
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: pigguns on May 22, 2013, 19:41
I love that Barley- have you used it for PSB seedlings? am very nervous putting them out due to pigeons.

No one seems to mulch on our site so here was I thinking I'm going to be the only plot holder with grass/bark/compost mulch etc. so pleased it's not just me.
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: shokkyy on May 22, 2013, 22:48
Every time I put down a grass mowings mulch on something, the blackbirds go screaming in there and chuck it all over the place. I don't know why, but they just seem to feel compelled to trash it.
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: ptarmigan on May 23, 2013, 09:37
Hi Barely

Loved your idea - cut down some bottles and went up to the plot last night in a gale (!) to try it out on newly planted brussels.  Will go up tonight and see it they bottles have stayed in one place. Ta. 
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: barbarella on May 23, 2013, 11:07
I use collars cut out of carpet underlay.  We keep a roll in the loft just for this purpose.  I've never had a problem with root fly but then maybe I wouldn't have had anyway :)
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: barley on May 24, 2013, 10:35
I love that Barley- have you used it for PSB seedlings? am very nervous putting them out due to pigeons.

No one seems to mulch on our site so here was I thinking I'm going to be the only plot holder with grass/bark/compost mulch etc. so pleased it's not just me.

I use them for as many plants as I can ....... Leeks , sweetcorn , all brassicas , lettuce , broad beans etc
they act as a mini greenhouse , and protect against birds & slugs until the plant is a little more established
the only draw back is you have to like drinking pop LOL!!!!!
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: pigguns on May 24, 2013, 16:37
I love that Barley- have you used it for PSB seedlings? am very nervous putting them out due to pigeons.

No one seems to mulch on our site so here was I thinking I'm going to be the only plot holder with grass/bark/compost mulch etc. so pleased it's not just me.

I use them for as many plants as I can ....... Leeks , sweetcorn , all brassicas , lettuce , broad beans etc
they act as a mini greenhouse , and protect against birds & slugs until the plant is a little more established
the only draw back is you have to like drinking pop LOL!!!!!

I have a 5ft home made pop bottle 'lean to greenhouse' which took me a year of collecting..... and 3 teenagers.  Bottle are not really a problem  :D, what to prioritise them for might be- I could do an extension to grrenhouse/make one for the lottie/pinking shear slug prevention collars/mini guttering cloche and now brassica collar
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Post by: barley on May 24, 2013, 22:09
LOL .......... you sound like you need to go on a pop bottle raid on bin recycle days !!!
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Post by: J_B on May 24, 2013, 23:40
i make hoops out of piping and bamboo and cover with environmesh...works a treat
Title: Re: help with brassicas
Post by: pigguns on May 26, 2013, 10:48
LOL .......... you sound like you need to go on a pop bottle raid on bin recycle days !!!
yes. yes. Yes! Why have I not thought of that when I go on my newspaper 'collecting' trips  :D