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Title: Public enemy number 1
Post by: AlaninCarlisle on February 05, 2018, 15:15


That has been me ever since I attended a Speed Awareness Course just before Christmas. The four hours of the course were so soul-destroying in their tedium that it worked, I resolved to be never back in there and I am stubbornly sticking to the speed limit. This has made me as popular as flatulence in a space-suit but I'm enjoying the feeling of power over the hooligans queued up behind me as I steadfastly stick to the 30, 40 or 60mph limits on single-carriage roads.

Anyone else had a similar experience?
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: Pescador on February 05, 2018, 17:13
Exactly the same with me, but still got passed by a bike doing well over 100 today on M5
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 05, 2018, 17:52
Good for you, Alan.

I wish they would have an awareness course for the amber gamblers and red light jumpers.

And for the ejits who had single car accidents in 1/2 inch of snow, early today, on our stretch of motorway causing the town to gridlock  ::)

Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: Christine on February 06, 2018, 10:57
Some folks shouldn't be trusted with vehicles with engines ...........
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: Stewarty on February 06, 2018, 11:35
When we're out in our old VW camper, which gives a very relaxing drive, it's clear that the nicest place to be is at the head of the queue.....
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: John on February 06, 2018, 11:53
I've been pretty much like you, Alan, since my course. They're so hot on speeding in N Wales - I think the coppers are on commission!

Silly thing is that the speed limit on the road to the village is 60 but that way lies death as it narrows to just about wide enough for two cars and very blind bends. I rarely get over 40 on it and I know the road. Yet the dual carriageway around Porthmadog is a 40 limit.  ::)
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: sunshineband on February 07, 2018, 08:57
The course is clearly effective... and I am also a recipient of their wisdom.

I do wish I had a dashcam to record the cars that dash past at breakneck speed on the motorways though...
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: al78 on February 07, 2018, 11:44
I  am happy going at or near the speed limit behind someone else. I do get irritated by the 30 mph club who drive at 30 mph EVERYWHERE regardless of whether the road conditions and speed limit permit faster progress. This seems to be a significant issue in the south east, the UK capital of slowness.
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: mumofstig on February 07, 2018, 12:14
As far as I know, there is only very rarely a bottom speed limit, or rule that says how fast you must go!
If you wish to go faster, then you find somewhere safe to overtake and do so.
People drive at speeds that suit their own reaction rate and their own bodily restrictions.

Impatience seems to cause many accidents, mainly due to dangerous overtaking. Does it really matter if your journey takes a few minutes more?
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: arh on February 07, 2018, 14:48
Motorways have a minimum speed limit, (a ridiculously slow one), I believe, but may be wrong now, it used to be 40mph, unless travelling heavy haulage etc., this why tractors were banned, and incidently why they invented the GT tractor, which could travel at 40mph). About the Speed Awareness course, one is only allowed to go on one every 2 years, and after 3, one doesn't have a choice. Though if one is still speeding after that they deserve all they get. i repeat, I may be wrong nowadays, as I gave up HGV work 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: mumofstig on February 07, 2018, 15:39
I've been Goggling and apart from the overhead, variable speed limits on some motorways and in tunnels/on bridges and the 20mph some Councils use for inner city/near schools, there isn't  a minimum speed limit.
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There are currently no laws pertaining to a minimum speed limit on either motorways or dual carriageways in the UK. If minimum speed limits are enforced on motorways or dual carriageways, these will be temporary, circular signs will be displayed and used to help reduce congestion.
https://www.drivingtesttips.biz/minimum-speed-limits-driving-too-slow.html
The Gov.uk speeding limit page only mentions the Council set lower ones.
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: AlaninCarlisle on February 07, 2018, 15:39
Anyone who drives a car at less than 60mph on an uncrowded motorway shouldn't be there in the first place.

North Cumbria is a relatively law abiding place except when it comes to pedantically obeying the speed limits. The roads, outside of Carlisle and two or three towns, mainly on the coast, are relatively lightly used and where there are no obvious speed traps, people use discretion as to what they deem to be the right speed, which of course is how I got caught. And now I'm determined to  obey the speed-limit is why I'm "a public enemy".
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: sunshineband on February 07, 2018, 18:47
I have heard of "dawdlers" on motorways being pulled over for driving in way likely to cause an accident. Anyone going really slowly without their hazard lights on is a hazard tbh
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: John on February 07, 2018, 20:29
I have heard of "dawdlers" on motorways being pulled over for driving in way likely to cause an accident. Anyone going really slowly without their hazard lights on is a hazard tbh
Someone going really slowly on the motorway when it's clear is a hazard - say you're doing 70 and they're doing 30 that's a closing speed of 40. You expect them to be doing something over 50 - so by the time you realise it's probably too late.

Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: Growster... on February 08, 2018, 07:09
Mum and Aunt Sally, you may be interested to know that Kent Police have appointed a new Chief Inspector, who is really getting to grips with speeding in our county.

They're taking extra data from every source available, and here, we're absolutely delighted, as we've been campaigning for years to make our village safer.

Does Ashford still have the unmarked town centre road system?
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: arh on February 08, 2018, 07:42
When you've finished with him/her, Growster, please direct him/her over the estuary to here, as we have a serious, and I mean serious, (2 surveys, 1 from police, 1 from C.C., both say the same, approx 2000 vehicles exceeding 30mph PER DAY), speeding problem here, which neither Police or CC are willing to solve. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: mumofstig on February 08, 2018, 08:56
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Does Ashford still have the unmarked town centre road system?
Yes, if you mean the pedestrian and vehicle shared space scheme (As if that could ever work >:()
It's extra dangerous atm as building works on the corner of the 'not a roundabout' roundabout  :wacko: makes pedestrians walk out into the normal flow of traffic - scary!
Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: al78 on February 08, 2018, 21:22
As far as I know, there is only very rarely a bottom speed limit, or rule that says how fast you must go!
If you wish to go faster, then you find somewhere safe to overtake and do so.
People drive at speeds that suit their own reaction rate and their own bodily restrictions.

Impatience seems to cause many accidents, mainly due to dangerous overtaking. Does it really matter if your journey takes a few minutes more?

Actually you can be charged with careless driving if you are going well below what would be considered a safe speed for the conditions. It has happened before. Impatience is not good, and can induce people to take dangerous risks, but if the impatience is due to someone unnecessarily impeding the progress of others, then they have to take some responsibility for the situation. Go at your own pace by all means, but don't unnecessarily force others down to your pace just because you can't be bothered to look and think. When I am cycling on the road I am aware that I am the slowest vehicle on the road so I will pull in and let traffic past if there is a convoy building up behind me. It is simply a matter of awareness and consideration for other people. You might have all the time in the world and nothing much to do but you have no idea the pressure others are under to be somewhere at a certain time.

Title: Re: Public enemy number 1
Post by: wapello on February 10, 2018, 13:23
 I took the points and paid the fine,,