Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Poultry and Pets => The Hen House => Topic started by: Brambles on June 30, 2009, 10:57
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I have had the dreaded mite over the weekend :tongue2: I was DESPERATE as was feeling very under the weather, and there they were suddenly. I could not believe that there were so many! I moved my girls into temporary accommodation after well coating with red mite powder, then I scrubbed everything with JEYES, still they were running around! In desperation I painted the whole of the outside with creocote as I had some in the shed and the little blighters ran outside onto the wet coating. I just painted over them... they did not survive ;) I did not paint the inside... I have ordered some poultry shield (cannot get any locally) and will do the house with that.
QUESTION PLEASE; can anyone please tell me how long I should leave the house before letting my girls back in??? I painted on Saturday but there is still quite a strong smell of creocote
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CREOCOTE smells it was always the case when I USED it. I do not use it any more because it has been banned for personnel use because of its carcinogenic properties.
In the future try Milbenex.
http://www.schopf-hygiene.com/en/schopf-hygiene-neubeuern/produkte/schaedlingsbekaempfung/kriechendes-ungeziefer/milbenex.html (http://www.schopf-hygiene.com/en/schopf-hygiene-neubeuern/produkte/schaedlingsbekaempfung/kriechendes-ungeziefer/milbenex.html)
you can purchase it fromhttp://www.bowdenandknights.com (http://www.bowdenandknights.com)
Milbenex is licensed for use with poultry and there is a residual effect i.e. if a new red mite comes in to contact with the treated area it will be killed by Milbenex.
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I have been using Milbenex for about 3 years now, and never had a red mite problem where I have used it. Just sprayed a shed today and not one crawled out! sorted!!! :D
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You've got in a mix there Ruff.
Brambles said they were using Creocote not Creosote.
Creocote is a wood treatment for fences etc. and anyone can use it.
http://www.decoratingwarehouse.co.uk/catalogue.php?productid=412
I don't know that it would have much effect on red mite though.
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Please read disclaimer. :tongue2:
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Please read disclaimer. :tongue2:
Pardon :wacko:
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Pardon :wacko:
Stuart
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Dont worry I am just paranoid chuck.
If I get the wrong end of the stick its because I have speed read. Honest.
Doing my best to lower the tone.
Find the answer to your questions easily by using the search facility.
http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?acti
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::)
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But please try Milbenex.
http://www.schopf-hygiene.com/en/schopf-hygiene-neubeuern/produkte/schaedlingsbekaempfung/kriechendes-ungeziefer/milbenex.html
you can purchase it fromhttp://www.bowdenandknights.com
Milbenex is licensed for use with poultry and there is a residual effect i.e. if a new red mite comes in to contact with the treated area it will be killed by Milbenex.
Though would no work for you Auntie as you have a plastic egg toilet.
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Cheeky boy ::)
I just give the eglu a five minute jet wash once a month - job done :D
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Did not think you would use toilet duck as its for ducks not chickens. :D
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Ducklu (http://www.omlet.co.uk/products_services/products_services.php?view=Ducks) :lol:
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Er please to not use toilet duck on you plastic duck toilet folks, it was meant in jest. :blush:
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Back on topic:
Milbenex for wooden poultry houses - discuss
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It has a residue effect, therefore stays on/in the wood and kills any red spider mite moving into mite free coops.
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THANK YOU ALL... Both for the info and for the giggles! Will def. buy some Milbenex... Just one question (sorry) Can you put chooks straight back in after using Milbenex? :)
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Oppps sorry for the delay in answer. I am not sure I will have to read the label..... I have in the past just waited till it dried.
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I have question :)
is milbenex for the outside of the house, can it be used inside to stay on top of mite?
Thanks Jo
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Inside the house. ::)
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My fave subject. Creocote is useless against redmite.
As are most anti red mote powders and sprays, I have not tried milbenex yet and I'd be very interested to hear from those that have.
Traditionally the one step solution was creosote. The EU has seen fit to ban sales of this for amateur users on the basis of one report that suggested it MIGHT be carcinogenic.
So thanks to the euro muppets only professional users can BUY Creosote now. So if you need your red mite eradicating you have to call in a professional to do it for you.
So legally you can still have your coop treated but you just need to be a professional user to do so or get a pro to do it for you. I see a lot of rubbish written about creosote, none of it backed by science or facts. The fact that it's been used for a very long time to treat coops with not a single reported ill effect tells me a lot more than idiots in the EU.
IF any of the anti's have a reasoned structured argument against using creosote in coops and can back opinion with science then I'm all ears.
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And breath.
Do you feel better now you have that off your chest Hensington?
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lmao at u rough and auntie :lol: :lol: :lol: u guys are so funny .
and thanks for this post now i know what i need to order as well :D
p.s any idea how much it is ??
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Please note that it is not as straightforward as simply getting a professional in to creosote your coop.
The law clearly states that creosote can only be used by professionals for re-treatment of wood in situ (or for industrial installations, which is hardly the issue here).
Therefore if wood has not previously been treated it cannot be treated with creosote for the first time. Given that creosote has been banned for first use since 2003, it is highly unlikely that most amateur users will have coops which fit this description.
I would also remind members of the site policies (http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=19481.0), which ask people not to turn topics into controversial or hotly debated issues. This is not the place for that.
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Well have been using Milbenex for around 3 years, I had tried everything else ,apart from Milbenex. Since using I have been redmite free, apart from a few in a broody house I didn't treat, which after one application went. I have 9 wooden sheds.
My neighbours have a large shed infested with red mite(an inch thick and looked like water as they moved) they told me tonight, so I have made up a 750ml spray bottle for them to try. It is so bad I could them crawling over their arms, really horrible! Despite that I have checked all my houses and haven't found one.
I know that a lot of experienced breeders use creosote, it is extremely effective. Everyone is entitled to use what they choose as long as the facts are clear,and, as there is a EU restriction in place we cannot advocate the usage here, its as simple as that. :)
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I know that a lot of experienced breeders use creosote, it is extremely effective. Everyone is entitled to use what they choose as long as the facts are clear,and, as there is a EU restriction in place we cannot advocate the usage here, its as simple as that. :)
As Foxy says, Hensington...
I find it really annoying that I can no longer obtain a very safe and effective herbicide, Amcide, because they wouldn't undertake LD50 tests. However the law is the law and I don't advocate trying to find it and use it.
Please drop your hobby horse or take it elsewhere, your choice.
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I'll give milbenex a try then Foxy ta for the info.
Who is in charge of policing this legislation? Just wondering as every chinese flat pack I have ever seen has been originally treated with a cresote based preserver to give it that reddy brown look. Which would make importing and selling them illegal, so at least some good would come of the legislation if it meant chinese flat packs would be banned:)