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Title: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 10, 2013, 16:46
Yesterday a mum dog and her 4 pups were thrown over the fence at the refuge, not nice for the dogs, it was a big drop down. At least the pups and Mum  are safe, but we are now overflowing with dogs!  We set a limit at 30, because of needing to build kennels, we now have 43 or maybe 45, I am not sure!!  That does not include the dogs thatcare being fostered, and street dogs that are being fed ' on the street' in safe areas. It is so depressing at times!


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on August 10, 2013, 18:12
Pamela - how awful for you all. Especially as you had some good news recently. Just seems like one step forward and one back.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: New shoot on August 10, 2013, 21:06
It always horrifies me when you tell us these things Pamela.  Who throws a dog and puppies over a fence  :(  I know you are overcrowded, but better with you than outside by the sound of it.

You had that lovely couple rehome 3 dogs recently.  There are still good people out there  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on August 10, 2013, 21:12
Poor Mum & pups.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Auntiemogs on August 10, 2013, 21:16
Oh Pamela, I really do feel for you hun.  I had to stop volunteering for Cats Protection because the stress was making me more unwell.  I really cannot understand some peoples attitudes towards poor defenceless creatures who have as much, if not more right, to live on this planet.  Makes me feel quite ashamed to be human sometimes... :(

You are doing a wonderful (and much needed) job hun and I think you're an amazing lady.  :) 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: BobE on August 10, 2013, 21:22
I agree Auntie.
I know that at Battersea they have a time limit and then well.....
Also badley damaged ones, mentally, that can't really be rehomed .......
Older ones that have no real chance .......
The females are nutured, I think you do do that.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Auntiemogs on August 10, 2013, 21:37
I agree Auntie.
I know that at Battersea they have a time limit and then well.....
Also badley damaged ones, mentally, that can't really be rehomed .......
Older ones that have no real chance .......
The females are nutured, I think you do do that.
So sad....the RSPCA do the same unfortunately... :(

I was the neutering officer for our local branch and it really did amaze me what people expected of a voluntary organisation ("I'm moving, take my cat, it's your job").  I spent so much time ferrying peoples cats to and from the vets to have them neutered (for free), as otherwise they wouldn't bother.  Tis a thankless task and at the end of the day, the poor animals suffer....
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Goosegirl on August 14, 2013, 15:30
Oh Pamela, I really do feel for you hun.  I had to stop volunteering for Cats Protection because the stress was making me more unwell.  I really cannot understand some peoples attitudes towards poor defenceless creatures who have as much, if not more right, to live on this planet.  Makes me feel quite ashamed to be human sometimes... :(
You are doing a wonderful (and much needed) job hun and I think you're an amazing lady.  :)
I echo AM - my three rescue cats have been an absolute blessing to me. We live in an isolated farming area and they have the full run of gardens and fields. They get fed on good food, have warmth, lots of cuddles, and it has been an absolute joy to watch them blossom. In turn, they have always been there when I needed solace in hard times, or just a furry body pushed right up to me in the night to make me feel secure. I am horrified that anyone could discard a dog with her pups like that. Many curses on them.  >:(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 14, 2013, 16:04
This morning at the refuge things could have turned very nasty, the Staffy squeezed through the gate
to attack the big Dalmatian, they HATE each other :ohmy:   The other girl grabbed the Staffy by the tail, the other girl and me grabbed a broom each, I whacked the dogs as Temy pulled Pepa by her tail, then the other girl hit ME over the head with a broom, she was aiming at the dogs, her aim was not good :lol: :lol:
No dogs were injured, Temy got a grazed knee from some wood, the other girl shut her finger in the stable door and I had a sore head, but at least the dogs were ok :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: surbie100 on August 14, 2013, 16:05
RSPCA does always make me a bit cross. They hold reserves of £160million-ish, have a steady income stream about about £50million in legacies per year, quite apart from donations, and they eat up so much of the donated income that could go to smaller animal welfare charities that survive on a shoe-string and without their corporate structures and fundraising teams.

I do appreciate that they do good things, but I also think that they unnecessarily swamp the field.

(small rant over, descending off soap box and going back to my corner)  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: surbie100 on August 14, 2013, 16:06
This morning at the refuge things could have turned very nasty, the Staffy squeezed through the gate
to attack the big Dalmatian, they HATE eachother :ohmy:   The other girl grabbed the Staffy by the tail, the other girl and me grabbed a broom each, I whacked the digs as Temy pulled Pepa by her tail, then the other girl hit ME over the head with a broom, she was aiming at the dogs, her aim was not good :lol: :lol:
No dogs were injured, Temy got a grazed knee from some wood, the other girl shut her finger in the stable door and I had a sore head, but at least the dogs were ok :lol:

Pamela

OW!! Well done on the speedy reactions all round!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 14, 2013, 16:19
Pepa, the Staffy is off to a refuge up north, on Sunday, she is to be assessed, there is a family wanting her, and Dalma, the Dalmatian, is going to a foster family in Barcelona, or maybe Bilbao. The dog, with one eye, is off to on Sunday too, to a Dutch family in Madrid, Sunday is a busy morning!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 14, 2013, 23:10
Our friends neighbour died suddenly and unexpectantly  at home, with no family and a puppy beside his body.  We rang the RSPCA  and they refused to help, they did not have an enployee close by, so we offered to drive the dog to their kennels- in north Essex I think it was,  they did not want to know.  I asked what should I do with the pup- the man said take him to the vet to be put to sleep!!!  This was about 9-10 years ago though, I hope they had changed.  After that I refused to give them a penny of my money. 
The pup was re-homed through being headlines in the local paper,  ´pups vigil beside dead owners body´ I came home to an answer machine full of messages offering him a home  :lol: :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Goosegirl on August 15, 2013, 14:16
My OH won't hear of them, and that was an awful response from them. I don't know how their funding system works, so is it just for them or can they allot funding to smaller and needy charities with a good track record?
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 16, 2013, 22:25
Two steps forward and one step back...... The good news is the Dalmatian, Staffy and the Mastin pup who her eye removed are off to new homes on Sunday.
The step back......
We have a Bodeguero dog ( terrier type with black head) he came to the refuge last week, he was a stray.  He has a swollen face, on one side, it had gone down, but today it was swollen again, so tonight we took 3 dogs to the vet. The bodeguero has a broken jaw, the vet said he had probably been hit with a stick.  The pup, has hopefully worms and not parvo virus.  The very bad news, a lovely Labrador, about 4 years old, has been in foster care, he has been unwell for a week, the lady did not say, he has a bad sore all around his mouth and has not been eating, the vet said the dog is suffering from stress and possible Leishmania, which is not good news.  The vet took blood, so we wait for the results.
At least when the Dalmatian and Staffy go we will have 2 empty kennels, so the Lab can come to us. We are keeping our fingers crossed that the pups are all ok. They are so cute, imagin wire haired pups that are like Labradors!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 18, 2013, 17:16
Refuge news for today, Sunday!
As I said previously, Pepa, Dalma and Xenna all went to new homes/refuges today, only Xenna was a definite home, the others possible homes, btt at least if not right for the families wanting them they safe at other foster families.  It made life easier at the refugethis morning, I did not have to worry about Pepa trying to escape and fight with Dalma, it was much quieter there!!
The new Bodeguero, with the bad face, had been put in Pepa's empty stable, as he was picking fights with another smaller bodeguero.When iI arrived I found the Bodeguero with the other dogs who live outside in kennels, one of the outside dogs was the Bodeguero that he hates  :ohmy: :ohmy: but all was peaceful.
I think the vet is wrong about a broken jaw, today he had pus and blood oozing from his cheek, so he is back to the vet tomorrow!
Another dog has been found, she is about to give birth, so cannot be moved!!  Looks like our dogs will grow again!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: New shoot on August 18, 2013, 19:29
More pups - not really what you need  ::)  Are pups easier to rehome than adult dogs?  I'm assuming yes, so you can get the numbers back down again soon.  Fingers crossed anyway  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Goosegirl on August 19, 2013, 13:10
The supposed broken jaw sounds like an abscess - hope he gets treatment a.s.a.p and feels better soon.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: BobE on August 19, 2013, 13:14
Wouldn't the problem with pubs be the cost of inoculations, chips, and nutering, all quite expensive.  But yes probably easier to rehome.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Goosegirl on August 19, 2013, 13:58
Wouldn't the problem with pubs be the cost of inoculations, chips, and nutering, all quite expensive.  But yes probably easier to rehome.
Sorry Bob - couldn't help chuckling at your spelling mistake there!  :tongue2: It sounded more like a "Desparate Housewives" plea!! Chips to lure their OHs into a state of sublime food intoxication then, when group snoring commences, inoculations can commence as desired and against whatever is necessary as determined by the wife. As for neutering - well - there should be enough alcohol on the premises to ensure sterility is guaranteed (no pun intended)! Re-homing will obviously depend on the capability of the chip chef, the efficacy of the inoculations, the ability of the OH to recover from said neutering and any after effects. Expensive - yes - but oh so worth it!! :lol:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: BobE on August 19, 2013, 14:09
 :ohmy:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Goosegirl on August 19, 2013, 15:05
:ohmy:
I know you meant pups not pubs! Just couldn't help myself!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: surbie100 on August 19, 2013, 15:15
Wouldn't the problem with pubs be the cost of inoculations, chips, and nutering, all quite expensive.  But yes probably easier to rehome.
Sorry Bob - couldn't help chuckling at your spelling mistake there!  :tongue2: It sounded more like a "Desparate Housewives" plea!! Chips to lure their OHs into a state of sublime food intoxication then, when group snoring commences, inoculations can commence as desired and against whatever is necessary as determined by the wife. As for neutering - well - there should be enough alcohol on the premises to ensure sterility is guaranteed (no pun intended)! Re-homing will obviously depend on the capability of the chip chef, the efficacy of the inoculations, the ability of the OH to recover from said neutering and any after effects. Expensive - yes - but oh so worth it!! :lol:

Don't forget, to be rehomed someone has to want to take them on....I think a few OHs might be in the pub for a significant amount of time (no change there then!) :lol:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: BobE on August 19, 2013, 15:16
You lot are beastly I meant "Pups" Froydian slip.  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Trillium on August 19, 2013, 15:49
Froydian    :D

?   Another one, Bob?  :lol: You're batting a hundred today.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: BobE on August 19, 2013, 16:05
 :tongue2:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 19, 2013, 18:14
We still have 'pups' that were born over a year ago, at the refuge, but most do get re-homed eventually.  If they are young when adopted they are not sterilised, just 'pet passported' Most of our older dogs are now sterilised, we are, if possible, sterilising a dog a week. The vet comes to the refuge, she said we have the happiest dogs and healthiest dogs, of all the refuges she visits. She works at the refuges, so our costs for sterilising are much lower.
Anyone want to adopt a dog :lol: ?


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 21, 2013, 18:24
Not good news today  :(

Pancho the Spanish Mastin that was adopted about a month ago, the dog with Leishmania (?) is being returned to the refuge- he has started to bite and attack the other dogs and the new owner :ohmy:  The BIG problem is we have no room, we had a Bull Mastiff cross come to the refuge this week, so the place where Pancho was is taken up with the new dog and the Mastin cross German Shepherd.
I have been piggy in the middle passing messages back and forth.
I have told the lady we need t get a new kennel built, but it is the feria next week, so everyone is busy/away on holiday. I had hoped it would be a couple of days to get something arranged, but have been told it will be at least a week.
I have passed on the message and said I am really sorry, I would be annoyed if I were them too.  I am waiting a reply, I hope they are understanding about our problem!!  I can understand them wanting to get rid of him asap though.
If he has turned nasty we will have to have him put to sleep, but until we get him back we can´t say.  It might be a mix of not understanding the language and the heat and his medication.  We never had a problem  with him at the refuge being bad tempered, he was very friendly.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on August 27, 2013, 22:31
aww Pamela that is so sad, I hope something can be sorted out for this boy  :( xx
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 09, 2013, 22:26
I thought I would update you on the refuge.
Pancho the mastin is back, as I said.  He is happy and no problem, he seems happy to be back.  We hae a Doge de Bordeaux found along the motorway, he is huge, but thankfully friendly. I just hope he can get a home soon, he eats lots!!  He loves water and having the hose put onto him.
We have the most gorgeous pups, the mum is just a young dog, and not very big, she has 4 pups, all different and all small.  She has adopted another pup too, he was given to the refuge at a few weeks if that.  He is small too.  The Mum has adopted him really well.
The new owners of the mastin that was blinded in one eye sent a video, she is living in a hose with a big garden, 2 westies and another Mastin.

I will update soon

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 11, 2013, 13:51
Nearly a nasty day today!  We had almost finished, the Doge de Bordeaux (?) type dog was let out onto the field and the Labrador into the small outside bit infront of the stables.......  The lady who let the big dog, Bull, out had not locked the gate (a double gate, locks with a bolt)if you open the gate to go into the outside fenced off bit the main gate has to be unlocked so it was just pushed shut and not secured shut   and Bull opened it and attacked the Labrador, or the Labrdor attacked Bull, I was not sure what happened, all I know was I was holding onto the Lab and had to let go!  It was Bl^^dy scary.  We managed eventually to get them apart, Bull was latched on hard to the Lab (Theo) I managed to get the Lab back into his stable and we then put Bull away.   We checked the Lab, he had 2 tiny cuts,  it could have been so very, very bad.  :ohmy:  We are having a meeting on Friday (I think) and I am going to say I am not comfortable with having these strong dogs at the refuge when we really have not the secure space or the experience of those type of dogs.  At one stage I was pulling on Bulls ears, terrified he would turn on me or Beatriz.  I know when I am there on Sunday he certainly will not be going out for a run on the field, he can stay in his fenced off bit. 
Scary ending as I said!!

And we do not have any insurance, as we cannot afford it, so how the refuge stands with accidents I do not know! If we are liable as committee members, I might resign!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 13, 2013, 16:02
Sad day at the refuge, the little black pup died last night. She had been taken to the home of a volunteer as she was suddenly losing weight, the mum does not want to feed them anymore, she snaps at them.  They are eating puppy biscuits and lapping. We just hope the others are ok. He was a cutie, jet black with a spot of white on his chest.
We are keeping our fingers crossed for the other pups now.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 14, 2013, 12:26
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/IMAG1483.jpg)

We are fostering another dog, she was found on the streets. She is a Jack Russell type. Anyone want to adopt her?

Pamela
Ps, as you can see, she fits in well here.



Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 14, 2013, 12:29
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/IMAG1477.jpg)

Here is Pepe in close up.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 14, 2013, 13:13
Pamela with a mastiff sized dog the easiest way to part them is to grab their back legs and pull them away - not easy but it does work - they shut off from all outside talking and pain. Also you can buy wooden staves to slide into their mouths to part their jaws. We have had to pull Ollie and Charlie apart on a few occassions. Mastiffs like to be the top dog and if any dog doesn't back down then they can turn.
We now have a couple of plug in diffusers in our house and since having them we have had no problems. I get mine from here (http://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/Products/CN41003/adaptil-dog-appeasing-pheromone-diffuser-plug-in), next day free delivery.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 14, 2013, 13:23
I was laying in bed thinking the same thing too about grabbing their back legs! At the time I had forgotten all about it. Hopefully we can get funds soon to get the two big dogs castrated. I am sure it was the female in season that set it all off.
We might have a British press reporter at the refuge this afternoon/ evening, I do hope so, then we might get a plug for help!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 14, 2013, 13:28
My Ollie has been spayed and it didn't make any difference it's just how mastiffs can be. They are loyal and loving but can have a need to be top dog. They certainly aren't a dog for a novice.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 14, 2013, 13:36
That is what worries me about having strong dogs at the refuge, we are not trained or use to them!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: maxibo on September 14, 2013, 23:47
Dear God why did I click on this thread?  We are desperate to get another dog to join our much loved fur baby Honey (a JR). How on earth do you find homes for these dogs?  We went to the RSPCA Cats and Dogs Home and their rehoming policy is so strict that they wouldn't even consider us.  Wouldn't even come and see us to see what we had to offer before we looked at dogs that needed re homing.  We told them we would buy a puppy then and we were told 'well go on then'!  We would have taken two dogs if they'd needed to be kept together.  Breaks my heart.  I work as a Housing Officer and we regularly have to intervene over incidence of animal cruelty.  I'm afraid I just don't understand how anyone can hurt an animal and it makes me very angry.

Pamela, you are doing wonderful work.  Give all the doggies a cuddle from me xxx


Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: compostqueen on September 15, 2013, 11:38
Lovely dogs there  :) You are doing sterling work there so don't give up. The dogs need you and people like you. You can work on the insurance, training and other stuff and hopefully resolve those issues. Sounds easy I know  :(

I love dogs, and had my own JR for many years. I'd never have another one though  :D  I think the RSPCA makes rehoming a dog difficult. If it was too easy everyone would have one and they'd end up back at the refuge.  You can get a dog on Freecycle for goodness sake!   :nowink: 

 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 15, 2013, 17:35
I am a volunteer home checker, dog assessor and relocation transport. I dont understand why the RSPCA wont send somebody out to visit your house. Do you both work full time? This could be the reason, however there will other rescues that will allow you to rehome older dogs to full time workers  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: maxibo on September 15, 2013, 18:07
I am a volunteer home checker, dog assessor and relocation transport. I dont understand why the RSPCA wont send somebody out to visit your house. Do you both work full time? This could be the reason, however there will other rescues that will allow you to rehome older dogs to full time workers  :)
Nope.  I only work 4 hours per day.  We do live in a flat, but its a large 3 and 1/2 bedroom property which is completely detached. We don't have any neighbours either side, above or below as it is above the laundry and 'communal lounge' of the block.  And because the building is built into a slope our front door is on the ground level but the actual property itself is on the first floor, if that makes sense!  It could have been that, but we were very upset that they wouldn't come and look BEFORE we looked at any doggies to 'check us out'.  The inference being that we are completely incapable of looking after a pet  :(.  So we bought a puppy, have a cat that I rescued when her owner moved and left her behind and have two indoor guinea pigs.  All of them are much loved family pets and very well cared for, if a little spoilt!  ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 15, 2013, 19:05
lots of people who live in a flat have dogs without any problems, all they have to do is make sure they have an area close by where they can walk their dogs. Leaving a dog alone for 4 hours is not unreasonable at all.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 16, 2013, 13:17
Refuge update time!!!

Good news.   The Doge de Bordeaux (or what ever he is) is off to Barcelona to a specialist refuge- so this week I am keeping away from the refuge until he has gone.  Just thinking about him makes my hands sweat with nerves! 

Peluso, a fat boy, who is about 17months old is being adopted, he is off to the UK to live, Manchester I think.  The refuge that has arranged the adoption for us (a Galgo refuge that has taken us under it´s wing) is helping us find new homes for the dogs.  They will take Shannon, Peluso´s sister too, but not to adopt, to go to the refuge, where she will get better attention, she is very nervous.  There are people around there most of the day, so she will, hopefully, be less scared.  She stayed with us for a littlewhile, she was sterilised and ripped out the stitches and her internal organs popped out  :ohmy:  so she was re-operated on and was fine  :lol:  you can´t even see the scar! 

Once Peluso is off we  can buy a new plug for the bath that is on the field, he steals it and runs off with it!  When he was a pup he would dig and dig in the bowl of water until the dish was empty then run off with it in his mouth!! 

Their Mum, Celeste, or Shy dog as I call her, is possibly going to Finland!!!  A lady is in contact with me, the Galgo people will find out how to transport her there and the cost, she would have to fly I think.  It would be wonderful for Shy dog, she is such a lovely dog, well deserving a home. She is, I think, the best dog at the refuge.  Here she is:

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/e9013a12-0015-4874-bf71-37f692bb6bfc.jpg)

Now as for the Jack Russel pup, or even Tibet (the dog who had the operation)  they can be transported to the UK easily-   so if anyone wants to adopt, I do not think it is OTT expensive transporting them off!  The Galgo people can do all the arrangements for us.

The Galgo rescue people are also taking Gilda, a Galgo/Podenco cross.  She is a big lean girl.  They do not have a home for her to go to, but being at their refuge she will stand a much better chance, as they specialise in her type of dogs. 

2 of the big pups have been adopted (photo coming later) and the small cute pups also, 2 possibly adopted, but one is supposed to be going to a girls granny as a present, the granny is 82 years old, so we might turn them down, as the old girl does not get out much. She can have Pumba free, he is a grumpy dog who needs a quiet house!!! :lol: :lol:

I have just remembered, I am supposed to ebe emailing the pup photos to the galgo lady!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 16, 2013, 14:21
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/DSCF0941.jpg)

What is the fluffy pup saying I wonder?  :lol:

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/DSCF0947.jpg)

They all have the same Mum!! they were thrown over the fence on day, while all the dogs were out on the field! It was a wonder they survived! They still had their eyes shut.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 16, 2013, 14:22
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/th_DSCF0986.jpg) (http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/DSCF0986.mp4)  Iamnot sure if this video will work

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 16, 2013, 16:05
the big fluffy one is gorgeous :)
 
Try not to be frightened of mastiffs Pamela they really are great dogs, you just have to respect their power potential and you must be the pack leader so just be assertive.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on September 16, 2013, 17:08
What a lovely video - thank you Pamela. Hopefully you will get lots more doggies adopted from the refuge.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 19, 2013, 09:10
The big dog, the Doge de Bordeaux type is off to Barcelona on Sunday morning, thank goodness.  I hope we never take a dog like him in again, unless we have proper really secure kennels for them. He got out of his enclosure last night, the lady there said it was scary, I had voiced my concerns about the enclosure not being secure, I was told he would never get out!!  Thank god I was not there!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 23, 2013, 12:47
The big dog, Bull, went off to a special refuge in Barcelona and one of the big pups, a Podenco/Dalmatian cross also went to a new home Barcelona way. 
This afternoon we are taking Tibet's sister to the vet. She is very poorly. At the moment she is being fostered, but the family are moving to a flat, so she cannot go with them. 
She has been having problems walking, limping on her back legs, not like Tibet, he only limped on one leg.  She has had all sorts of xrays, been seen by the bone specialist, but nothing can be seen to be wrong, she is really struggling to get up. She is on medication. She is now being very sick and has diarrhea and will not eat or drink.  We do not know if she will come home from the vets tonight :(  if the vet says she is suffering we will have her put to sleep.


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 24, 2013, 14:10
Tibet's sister stayed at the vets last night, she had a blood test this morning, she has leishmania, a very nasty infection caused by the sandfly.
What will be the outcome I do not know yet. Her bloodcount for the infection is very very high. It depends on how her kidneys are. If her organs are bad I think she will be put to sleep.  There is now a vaccine available but to get the refuge dogs treated with it we are looking at around 7,500€ or more. Even to get our dogs here treated we are looking at around 800€ :(  the second year it would be around 30€ per dog. The first step is a blood test, then if clear 3 jabs. Then after that just 1 jab a year. 
Poor Marta, she is skin and bone. She is so like Tibet.  We were shown on the way home where they were born, in a ditch at the side of the main road :(
I hate the refuge at times, it gives us such sad hearts :( :(

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on September 24, 2013, 14:20
Oh Pamela - it gives us sad hearts as well just reading your stories so how much worse for you. Take care and sending you cyber hugs.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 24, 2013, 14:29
If only people would get the male dogs at least castrated at least it would stop lots of unwanted pups, but they think it is ' cruel'  >:( idiots!! 
I guess that is a problem world wide though >:(

I am sure thatmen think it is their bits being chopped off so say no!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on September 24, 2013, 14:33
You could be right there Pamela - you can just imagine them standing in the vets with their legs crossed.

It is a pity that there could not be some sort of public service broadcasting to explain that it is not cruel and that it is far more cruel to let the poor animals have litter after litter which are then just tossed aside.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 24, 2013, 15:03
More bad news, the president of the refuge is fostering a dog at her flat, it has jumped from the balcony to the street below :ohmy:  the dog is not very well and the poor lady very distraught understandably.  She does so much for the dogs, she is not a sit back and let the volunteers get on, she works very hard for the refuge. So Jim and I are off to the vet again.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: tosca100 on September 24, 2013, 16:18
If only people would get the male dogs at least castrated at least it would stop lots of unwanted pups, but they think it is ' cruel'  >:( idiots!! 
I guess that is a problem world wide though >:(

I am sure thatmen think it is their bits being chopped off so say no!!

Pamela

It's the same over here. There is a programme where you can get your dogs seen to free of charge at regular intervals, but it seems this is more cruel than letting bitches have multiple unwanted litters (which come to a nasty end) and male dogs running around in packs attacking other dogs. Street dogs are given an ear tag if neutered.

We are told they had a bit of a problem with too many dogs on the street last year, so they were rounded up and...er...disposed of. But others move in. There is a refuge close to us, but no-one lives there so the dogs are left alone a lot of the time, and the barking can go on....I feel sorry for them but glad we are no closer. A young Russian couple with a baby live right behind them. Goodness knows what will happen if the people caring for them can't get here in the depths of winter when the roads are often closed.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 24, 2013, 18:32
A quick update..... The dog did not jump from the balcony, he jumped off a 2 storey roof :ohmy:  he is one very lucky dog , no internal injuries but possibly torn ligaments in one leg, nothing broken  :ohmy:  he is off to the refuge now he needs rest. He is full of fleas :ohmy:
Tibet's sister is very poorly. I think she is going to be put to sleep. She has one more blood test due back, everything else was bad, what with the problems with her spine, some days she cannot walk at all and the leishmania, she is very poorly.
I will give Tibet a big cuddle when I get in.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 24, 2013, 22:27
Marta was put to sleep tonight  :( I know it is for the best, we did it with very heavy hearts, but she is not suffering any more.  Tibet is being strange tonight, he is right under the table against the wall, he never goes there, it is as if he knows about his sister :(
One of our two steps back days today. 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: ANHBUC on September 25, 2013, 10:10
Sending you hugs Pamela and some for Tibet.  It would not have been fair to let Martha suffer so please think of her not suffering any longer and the care she was given.   :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 25, 2013, 14:30
The dog that jumped from the roof was full of fleas  :ohmy:  I was picking them off him as we drove to the vets  :ohmy: :ohmy: While we were at the vets I killed loads while the dog was asleep after having a scan /xray.
It was the same on the way home!!
This morning we drove into town and a flea jumped onto my arm  :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: So we bought strong ínstant´ ant killer and sprayed all the seats and floor of the car and shut the door.  Hopefully that will have killed any still there!!  The dog is being de-flead today at the refuge, well I mean treated with the flea stuff.  We might get bad tick problems at the refuge but fleas we do not have!!  Which is a surprise really  :lol:

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on September 25, 2013, 14:39
Pamela - I am now sitting at my computer screen scratching at imaginary bites.  :lol:

Sorry to hear about Marta but from what you said it was for the best. Take care.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 26, 2013, 17:34
I am at the refuge tomorrow, I have not been there since the big dog went off last Sunday.  This Sunday the refuge have a stall at Animal Plaza, a special market for everything to do with animals.  I am supposed to be taking Tibet (the dog living with us who had the leg opetation) with a view to someone adopting him  :( :(  He is only allowed to go to a special family, not just anyone.
I really do not want him to be adopted to another family, but we really cannot afford 5 dogs!!  He is a sweet dog, at night the others sleep outside, but Tibet is inside, every night he jumps up onto our bed, full of excitement, he lays inbetween us for 5 min then moves to the end of the bed and then off to the sofa.  Once it gets light he comes back to wake us up. 
Anyone want to adopt Tibet????

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 26, 2013, 23:25
It is all very weird with the dog that jumoed off the roof.  I saw a video of him on the ground and thought, how odd to take a video of a dog that had jumped off the roof, but the video was when he was found the morning before he jumped off the roof..... he could not walk then! 
I have been looking up Leigh symptoms on the internet- problems with joints/spine can be a sign, which Tibets sister had, far worse than Tibet (she had xrays that were clear) so we are wondering if the dog has leish?
I am at the refuge tomorrow- I hope his fleas are better/dead, we had to spray our car yesterday, there were fleas jumping about inside after taking himto the vet in it!!  I sprayed with a strong ant killer,shut the door and we left the car unopened for 30 hours!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 27, 2013, 15:05
Had another thought this morning- could the dog be epileptic? 

I was at the refuge this morning, flying dog is hobbling about n 3 legs, but is in a room alone, he must rest as much as possible.  He still has fleas, he has been treated though. ]The vet said a bone is broken after all, and the ligaments need operating on  :ohmy: :ohmy:  This is not just two steps back for us, it is a huge jump back :( :( :(

This weekend we are having a raffle, at the animal market, we have all donated ´good´ foods, so the prize is a nice big box of foodstuff and wine.  I should really make some meringues to go in it.  The food is not just a packet of rice, baked beans etc it is asparagus, tuna etc.   

I am taking Tibet along to the market on Sunday, so people can see he is up for adoption, also I am taking the puppy we are looking after.

On Sunday two of the young pups are going off to Barcelona to be adopted, we will miss them, they are such cute pups.  There is also a Podenco type going to Barcelona too, I have not met her, she was bought to the refuge this week, and is off to either be adopted or another refuge, I am not sure which. 
This week we have had 3 new dogs, the Podenco, a Spaniel type and the flying dog.

The bigger pups are getting big, there are 4 females and 2 males.  One of the males is the boss, we have had to take his smaller brother away from the group, the bigger pup is attacking him, I guess even at an early age one wants to be ´top dog´  The smaller male is in with some other dogs and his Mum, he is fine and the other dogs like him, so he is the lucky one. :D


Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 28, 2013, 22:06
Well an eventful day.
It started off with the injured dog going to another refuge for treatment, 700€ sowe were all put into a panic as the refuge is broke....  then we received good news, a man is going to pay the whole bill for us, so Casper can have his operation.  :D :D
I got to the refuge and Sara and I opened the gate and found 2 dogs had been thrown over the fence, we managed to get one, he was friendly but the other ran off we could not catch him.  Another lady came along and knew the owner of the dogs, she had told the lady that we did not have any room what so ever in the refuge for her dogs, so she just decided to dump them on us anyway.  >:( >:(  There is only so many dogs we can put together before it gets dangerous. 
Two of the tiny pups go off to new homes in Barcelona tomorrow the one remaining pup is going into foster care. 
The pup we are looking after is keeping us busy- tonight she was trying to enter the living room via the big window- the problem is the window has mosquito screens and she was trying to squeeze through the side- she had pulled the netting away!! She, Pele, is good at pinching shoes!!  She loves Charlie our Labrador.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Sparkyrog on September 28, 2013, 22:44
Had another thought this morning- could the dog be epileptic? 

I was at the refuge this morning, flying dog is hobbling about n 3 legs, but is in a room alone, he must rest as much as possible.  He still has fleas, he has been treated though. ]The vet said a bone is broken after all, and the ligaments need operating on  :ohmy: :ohmy:  This is not just two steps back for us, it is a huge jump back :( :( :(

This weekend we are having a raffle, at the animal market, we have all donated ´good´ foods, so the prize is a nice big box of foodstuff and wine.  I should really make some meringues to go in it.  The food is not just a packet of rice, baked beans etc it is asparagus, tuna etc.   

I am taking Tibet along to the market on Sunday, so people can see he is up for adoption, also I am taking the puppy we are looking after.

On Sunday two of the young pups are going off to Barcelona to be adopted, we will miss them, they are such cute pups.  There is also a Podenco type going to Barcelona too, I have not met her, she was bought to the refuge this week, and is off to either be adopted or another refuge, I am not sure which. 
This week we have had 3 new dogs, the Podenco, a Spaniel type and the flying dog.

The bigger pups are getting big, there are 4 females and 2 males.  One of the males is the boss, we have had to take his smaller brother away from the group, the bigger pup is attacking him, I guess even at an early age one wants to be ´top dog´  The smaller male is in with some other dogs and his Mum, he is fine and the other dogs like him, so he is the lucky one. :D


Pamela
Epilepsy in dog's is indeed possible ! Unfortunately if that is the case it is a lifetime of treatment it can be controlled not cured : :( Although a friend of mine kept a collie cross going for 13 yr's 'it can also effect cat's  :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 28, 2013, 23:03
Our dog here has fits, but very few, so the vet said until they start to get more frequent or longer there is no need for medication.  He just falls to the ground, uses all use of his legs, his eyes go ´strange´ then he is fine as if nothing has happened.  He had 3 last year but we have only seen one this year, it lasted under 5 minutes.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Sparkyrog on September 28, 2013, 23:45
Our dog here has fits, but very few, so the vet said until they start to get more frequent or longer there is no need for medication.  He just falls to the ground, uses all use of his legs, his eyes go ´strange´ then he is fine as if nothing has happened.  He had 3 last year but we have only seen one this year, it lasted under 5 minutes.

Pamela
Sorry Pam I can only go on what next door's granddaughter told me as it was her dog .
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 29, 2013, 15:53
Thankfully Jumbo is ok!! My cousins dog has bed epilepsy and is on pills.

Right, today's refuge news. I took pup to the animal plaza, where the refuge have a stall, we want people to be informed about us and to see our refuge dogs. Lola and Rogelia went along too, they were perfectly behaved, a young couple were very taken with Rogelia, a pug build but without a pug face, so we hope to hear more from them.
A couple of young women had a pup, free to a home, they had found her abandoned, so were trying to get her a home, they succeed, right near the end of the market, one of the girls was crying with happiness :D :happy:
You might be thinking, ' what about Tibet, was he adopted?'.
The answer is yes, Tibet has a forever family  :D :D :D. Us!!  We could not part with him in the end!!  :D :happy:
Jim says NO MORE dogs!!
We must be mad!
Yesterday another dog was found at the refuge! Just what we do not need!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 29, 2013, 16:26
I knew you would keep Tibet, so pleased for him. Your Jim (like mine) always says no more but like you I always ignore that comment lol.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 03, 2013, 10:04
Some people went to the refuge last night to look at some of the big pups, with a view to adopt one.... instead they adopted Teo, a Labrador.  So now the pups (who are the size of a medium dog at about 4 months) can go into the stable where Teo was, they are wrecking machines!! There is nothing to wreck in the stable, thank goodness.  In the room they were in there are 2 hand basins, they chewed both the outlet pipes, so the water poors over the floor!!  They can be repaired now and we can wash our hands in there  :lol:

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 04, 2013, 17:35
The big dog, the Doge de Bordeaux type is off to Barcelona on Sunday morning, thank goodness.  I hope we never take a dog like him in again, unless we have proper really secure kennels for them. He got out of his enclosure last night, the lady there said it was scary, I had voiced my concerns about the enclosure not being secure, I was told he would never get out!!  Thank god I was not there!!

Pamela

I can completely understand the fear of very big dogs Pamela. My uncle has had 2 staffy's now and their strength and bounciness does freak me out - both dogs were soft as muck but I think they look as though they might turn at any moment!!
My friend Gemma at school had a rottweiller - she used to scare me too!
And as a teen I was chased up a tree by 2 dobermanns! :lol: IT's funny thinking about it now, but terrifying at the time. They sat under the tree waiting for me for over an hour before their owner came looking for them!
My friend Rachels' GS's are a bit scary when they bark, but Lily knows me well and is lovely, but the puppy Duke (although he's not much of a puppy anymore) is very protective now and has gone for a family friend of Rachels' mum :unsure: so I'll be a bit wary of him.

Otherwise I've never had a problem with labs or retrievers - but I wouldn't like to have to intervene in a dog fight - you're very brave!

The movie of those puppies feeding was lovely by the way :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 04, 2013, 19:05
One of the volunteers dad found 5 pups, just young, starving at the side of the road yesterday, he has taken them to his house.  Our big pups are off to another refuge next month I think, that refuge has much better kennels and will be able to re-home easier than we can.  Have a look on the internet for La Voz de Marchena, this is a local paper, they have a big article about our refuge.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: ANHBUC on October 04, 2013, 19:22
It looks good Pamela but I can't speak or read Spanish.   For those that can CLICK HERE (http://www.lavozdemarchena.es/index.php/sociedad/6212-adam-hace-un-llamamiento-a-los-amantes-de-los-animales-para-hacerse-voluntarios-de-la-asociacion-y-reivindica-mayor-concienciacion-entre-la-poblacion)    :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 04, 2013, 19:49
Well done Pamela - I was able to make out a little bit of the article using my mostly forgotten holiday Spanish - you have been given a well deserved good write up.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 04, 2013, 19:57
G**gle translate ;) ;) ;) :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 05, 2013, 09:12
The first photo in the write up is PAncho, a Spanish MAstin, he has leishmania, but is well and on medication.  The small dog in the photo is Pantoja.
The 2nd photo is shy Shannon, her brother is in another refuge, getting ready for a new home in Manchester.
The 3rd is Rogelia
4th foto is one of the pups who were born in a rabbit hole- there were 7 of them!  Monsters!!! We still have 6
5th Lola, she arrived pregnant and gave birth to 2 pups, who look like they have ´sausage dog´ in their genes, so they were named Salchi and Morci (after sausages) sadly Salchi died of distemper
6th photo is Rubia, she is a Labrador with very short legs, she loves to play, all day if she can!
7th photo is one of our Podenco dogs, I cannot remember her name!
8th is Eli, a volunteer, along with Gilda, a podenco/galgo (type of greyhound) cross.  SHe has gone to another refuge, where they specialise in Galgo types mostly.  She is with Shannons brother Peluso.
9th-  Nani, she was thrown over the fence one day, along with her 4  gorgeous puppies, the pups were just days old.  They were all put over the fence when the dogs were out, so it was a wonder there was not trouble! Nani herself is just about a year old.
Finally, Pelli, the Jack Russel cross type we are looking after here, who I hope will go to another foster home very soon, as we can´t keep her! She is only going to be a small dog, like our Lola.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on October 05, 2013, 10:23
I never seen a dog with ears like the one in the wheelbarrow :blink: so how many dogs do you have at home now Pamela?
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 05, 2013, 12:51
Some Podenco dogs do have big ears! They remind me of dogs pictured in Egyptian tombs.
At home we have 5 dogs, plus Pelli, who cannot stay!!  I only had 2 dogs before I went to the refuge!!  It is ok on a day like today, but on a damp day the house gets very wet dog smell :ohmy:
Our oldest dog is Lola, we got her after our dog was killed, she was a refuge dog, she is aprox 9 years old, they then go 6 years, aprox 3-4 years, 2-3 years, 18 months and the pup 4 months!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 05, 2013, 17:03
Loved the article.
The dog in the wheelbarrow is so cute!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on October 07, 2013, 13:00
I seem to be the opposite to most of you and much prefer and trust large and giant breed dogs, I find smaller dogs to be a bit nippy.
I did go out yesterday to visit a dog rescue with a few supplies and got told about two possible rescues - one a Neapolitan Mastiff and the other a Great Dane so we might be also adding one of these to our household  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 11, 2013, 12:53
Just had some bad news, the dog in photo 7 with the big ears, the Podenco, she and another dog, a small bodeguero dog, have dug under the fence and escaped :ohmy:  I hope they find their way back to the refuge!


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on October 12, 2013, 11:44
I like the big breeds too Joy, the most chilled out pup (apart from Pip) I've ever met, was a 16 week old Great Dane, totally unflappable, even with 4 ferrets climbing all over him :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on October 12, 2013, 13:47
Here is a pic of my Ols bounding over to give me a big slobbery kiss to say thankyou for her new winter coat :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 12, 2013, 16:58
The missing dogs were all home by the afternoon  :D. They must love the refuge after all  :happy:
I was there this morning, we had to put drops in a dogs eyes, she fought like a mad thing, we had to give up trying!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on October 12, 2013, 17:58
I'm glad they found their way back  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 12, 2013, 19:42
I bet they remembered where dinner was :lol: Glad they're back.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 15, 2013, 14:18
Not refuge news but nasty all the  same....
We were driving into town yesterday morning and a Podenco dog (like the photo of the dog sitting in the wheel barrow in the newspaper article)  was trotting along the other side of the road, close to the edge. We slowed down and a big 4wd came towards us, it had ´bull bars´on the front, the driver must have seen the dog, it was a straight bit of road- we drove on and the car went past us.  I looked in my side mirror and was horrified to see the car aim at the dog and the little dog flew into the air. The car made so sign of slowing down, breaking or driving around the poor dog :mad: :mad:  We could not stop as we were off to the Dr for an appointment.  On the way home we were going to stop to move the dog off the road, but it was too much of a mess. We had to go back into town later on and by then the remains had been moved from the road. 
I can´t begin to say how shocked we were, and if I were to write what I said about the driver I would be banned for life. Hopefully the dog died fast.   We often see dead dogs in the road, but to actually see a dog run down on purpose was horrifying >:( :mad: :ohmy:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 15, 2013, 15:04
Oh Pamela - how distressing for you.  :(  Words just fail me.  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: lacaya on October 15, 2013, 15:58
Poor thing! There are some real bar-stewards in this world aren't there? I hope it was all over really quickly and it didn't suffer at all.  Whatever it was that you would like to have done to the driver, I would have gladly helped you.

P.S. to Joyfull - love your Ols!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on October 15, 2013, 16:26
Thats awful Pamela  :(


Thank you Lacaya
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 15, 2013, 21:20
Oh Pamela that is such awful news.
What a savage thing for any human to do. I would have beaten the driver to smithereens if I'd been there.

Such a terrible thing to witness.
**Sending many hugs to you**
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 16, 2013, 10:58
How shocking Pamela. Why are some people so absolutely foul. How do they sleep at night,if it was over here the RSPCA could prosecute for cruelty.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 16, 2013, 22:16
We had a meeting tonight for the refuge, we were sat outside at a bar, the weather is still good. The lady who threw the Mum dog and her 4 gorgeous pups is demanding her dog back! She threw her over as she did npt want the pups, she is not getting the dog back!
Another thing that was discussed was another calendar, one like the Calendar Girls!! Jim says it would put people off having to look at me for a month! 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on October 17, 2013, 10:18
 :lol: :lol: is Jim still standing upright??

Quite right that woman gave up rights to that dog when she threw it over your refuges wall.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on October 17, 2013, 10:20
if you do a calendar where you each are holding a dog in front of you I bet you will all chose a mastiff type (I know I would  :lol: :lol:)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 17, 2013, 16:42
He'd be sporting a black eye if he was mine :lol:
 Seriously I know there is no selling allowed on the forum but how about contacting Aunt Sally/John & see if you could sell some on here,I for 1 would buy 1 to support your good work. Or how about a sponsorship scheme or similar?
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 17, 2013, 18:43
Just been told the photo shoot is on 3rd November :ohmy:  I am so glad I joined the healthy eating club!!
Yes, I want the Mastin or A big sack of dog food!!  I must be flipping mad even considering it, photogenic I aint :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 17, 2013, 19:00
He'd be sporting a black eye if he was mine :lol:
 Seriously I know there is no selling allowed on the forum but how about contacting Aunt Sally/John & see if you could sell some on here,I for 1 would buy 1 to support your good work. Or how about a sponsorship scheme or similar?

Me too because I really admire the work that you all do at the refuge.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 17, 2013, 19:48
At the meeting another lady said ´will Jim mind¨ It had not occured to me to think I would have to ask his permission!!  Even if he said no, I would still do it!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 18, 2013, 00:32
It'll be fun, arty and raise money for the refuge ;) :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 20, 2013, 13:55
I was at the refuge this morning, Eli, one of our dogs had escaped, she is in season.... She was waiting at the door to go in. The room where we could normally put a dog in season has 5 small pups in it, they were found abandoned, with no mum close by, so even morepups at the refuge! 
A man came to look at our dogs, he came back later, he wants 3 dogs, all small, well short ones, Rubia, the lab type with very short legs, Milo, a small funny looking terrier and another dog, the problem is, he is a hunter, so why does he want the dogs?  I know not all hunters are bad, but too many here are :(

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 20, 2013, 19:15
We were just about to go out tonight and I got a message to say a family were interested in either Pelli, the pup we are fostering, or another pup from the refuge. I gave Pelli a quick bath and blow dry!  We then headed off to the refuge. It was all going wrong for Pelli, as the other pup was being playful and Pelli quiet....so I showed a video of her playing with Tibet. They then tried the other pup on a lead, she would not walk..... :lol: they said it was for a flat, so they chose Pelli  :D she went off without a backward glance to us!! She will be a lucky dog I think!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 20, 2013, 19:17
Pamela - lovely to have good news for a change. Hope you lose many more dogs that way.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 20, 2013, 19:47
I was at the refuge this morning, Eli, one of our dogs had escaped, she is in season.... She was waiting at the door to go in. The room where we could normally put a dog in season has 5 small pups in it, they were found abandoned, with no mum close by, so even morepups at the refuge! 
A man came to look at our dogs, he came back later, he wants 3 dogs, all small, well short ones, Rubia, the lab type with very short legs, Milo, a small funny looking terrier and another dog, the problem is, he is a hunter, so why does he want the dogs?  I know not all hunters are bad, but too many here are :(

Pamela
To go to ground if the prey does :ohmy:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 21, 2013, 08:24
Morning folk!  Well I have a dilema....  shall we let Tibet be adopted?  We are ´fostering´ him after his operation, and he kind of has wormed his way into our lives. Our friend knows of a lady in Madrid who has lost her husband, Mother in law and her dog, and broken her leg all within the last year and she is looking for a dog. 
Natalia thought of Tibet.   
I think really he would love to be an ´only´ child, he is fabulous, out of all our dogs here (5) he is my favourite, I know it is wrong to have favourite children..... :nowink: 
We had said we would adopt him, but if the right home came along....  oh poo!! 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 21, 2013, 08:30
Oh dear that is a dilemma, the big thing would be to let him go,then you have a 'space' to help another one,but then there is a big space in your heart. No help, sorry. I'm sure whatever you decide will be for the best.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 21, 2013, 08:52
How do families cope being foster parents? :ohmy:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on October 21, 2013, 09:15
Something I couldn't do,I'd not want to give them back & as for surrogate mother's - no way could I give a baby up that I'd carried for 9 months. Just as well that I have never been in any of those situations. Hope you come to a decision that your happy with soon.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 21, 2013, 10:23
Pamela - what a hard decision for you to make. In the end you are the only one who can make it but by the sounds of things if you do let Tibet go he will be much loved.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 21, 2013, 12:25
I think I will ask Natalia to see about the new home, you never know, the lady might not want him. He will never be 100% on his bad leg, but compared to how he was before the operation he is great. We have had him here for 6 months, it was supposed to be just 6 weeks!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 23, 2013, 21:00
Well 3 of the pups that have been found are adopted!  A young man who works at the refuge found homes for them all!!!


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 24, 2013, 10:37
Good news - you seen to be doing well with re-homing recently.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 05, 2013, 14:43
Not a good day today :(  3 pups were found, about a month or so old, hopefully they will survive, then a family found 2 new born pups under the rubbish bins, they were freezing cold and not in a good way, sadly they had to be put to sleep :( I took them to the vet.  Very few dogs are sterilised here, the mentality is ' poor dog, it's not nice'   It is not flipping nice taking a pup to be put to sleep either!  The vet said one day he got to the surgery to find a box with 16 new born pups :mad:
Another volunteer is feeding some Galgo (greyhound type hunting dogs) dogs that are abandoned, she has managed to get one to eat out of her hand, so hopefully soon she can catch the dogs.
We have 5 new puppies at the refuge, they were abandoned, one more was found dead.
We are applying to the town hall for permission to build more kennels, when the finances allow, we will soon fill them up.
I have not been to the refuge for just over a week, I have had a trapped nerve (I was stupid, I tried to lift a child) I will notice the difference in the pups when I go back!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 06, 2013, 17:26
Volunteers arrived at the refuge this afternoon to find 5 pups had been thrown over the fence :ohmy: what the hell do people think we are going to do with their dogs?  We have no more space, we must be up to over 50 dogs at the refuge now, many more being fostered and other dogs being looked after in the olive groves as we have no more room! 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 06, 2013, 19:28
From what I gather it is 2 Dalmatians and 3 pups, not related :ohmy:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: ANHBUC on November 06, 2013, 20:02
Do you have signs on the fencing letting people know when the refuge is full Pamela? 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 07, 2013, 06:50
A sign would not stop folk. One lady went to see the president of the refuge, she did not want her dog and 4 pups, it was explained to her that we had no room, so the next day the pups were thrown over the high fence, along with the mum!  The woman is now demanding the mother back!  She has been told to get lost.
We are fostering another little dog here, a small one, she reminds me of a whippit/sheltie. She was supposed to go to the UK, as long as the house check was ok, but I had a message to say that she cannot afford the transport fees (220€) I have not told Jim we will have the little girl for a bit longer, he will be very annoyed!!  She was living outside a bar close to us, which is right next to the main road, so in real danger. She had been there for a week. We collected her yesterday. At least her ginger/white colour matches in with our dogs!!

I will try to post a photo, but our house WiFi is down, it has been a week, we were assured it would be back yesterday, huh!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 07, 2013, 07:02
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/37e70b77-e678-4118-b4d0-20e32cf6e232.jpg)

Hopefully this has worked!
Just checked, it has!  If the adoption does not happen, does anyone want Chica, or do you have a spare bedroom for Jim to move into!!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 07, 2013, 16:42
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/th_VID-20131107-WA0008.jpg) (http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/VID-20131107-WA0008.mp4)

Hopfully you can see a video of the dumped dogs.

Pamela

Ps the white pup at the end is kind of cute!!

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2013, 17:55
Aww, definite Sheltie head - the colouring on the rest of the body is definitely not Sheltie though!  :blink: :D

We had a Sheltie when I was a teenager.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 10, 2013, 10:45
Belle, as the new owner is going to call her, is settled well, from being a quiet scared dog she is now a mischievous puppy!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 14, 2013, 14:31
Good news for a change, a charity is donating food, medication, toys etc to our refuge  :D :D :D :D
The dogs will be thrilled with the balls!!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: yaxley on November 14, 2013, 22:59
Thats great news people like yourself deserve to get help with all the good work you do for those poor unwanted and neglected dogs ..Good to hear they will enjoy the balls and the food and medication will help out with the amount of dogs you get dumped on your door step .....
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 15, 2013, 14:35
I was back at the refuge this morning- been off for a week because of sons visit and then 2 and a bit weeks because I hurt my back.  Boy did I notice a difference in the puppies!  They are huge!!  The new dogs, 2 Dalmatians and a small dog are great.  The male dalmatian will not stop trying to mate with the female, although she is not in season, so he is on his own, so getting really stressed. They are both lovely dogs, not great big ones like the other dalmatian we had before, he was huge, these are controlable!!  The small dog that was thrown over the fence  with them is so cute, I want her!    The two ´pups´ are being looked after away from the refuge as the girl dalmatian was attacking them, even though they were all thrown over the fence at the same time, we assumed they were all living  together.
It was hard work cleaning today, not so much the sweeping, the mopping hurt my back, even though I was wearing a very un-sexy support corset! Tomorrow we are at an all day market, so hopefully people will donate money and buy the books etc we have there. Trouble is, the books are my books, so we need Brits or English speakers to come along!!  :lol: :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 16, 2013, 17:41
The free food, blankets etc arrived this morning, lots of blankets, collars, food medications etc. The little puppy wore one. Of the dogs coats today, it was freezing at the market! We had a table there, selling stuff for the refuge. We took just over 35€ not a lot, but enough for 2 sacks of food, or almost a castration!
Our table was in the shade all day, I was wearing a t-shirt, a cardigan, a thin fleece jacket, a thicker jacket over that and then a fleece over that, I was still cold!!
I have hardly warmed up yet!

Pamela

PS I cried when I saw the free stuff, 20 boxes!!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on November 16, 2013, 18:03
Pamela - what a generous donation. No wonder you felt like crying.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 16, 2013, 18:13
It was not all brand new, but almost new, there was old curtains and material for bedding. There are a few soft beds, knowing some of our dogs they will last 5minutes :lol: they will love the balls to play with and there are lots of treat biscuits too!! There was even a muzzle suitable for the tiniest of chihuahua!! :lol: :lol: :lol:  hopefully all the dogs will get a collar :D. They will be so posh! :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on November 16, 2013, 18:37
A friend of mine used to collect old towels, blankets etc and forward them to the local animal shelter - they were really grateful. Much better than the stuff going to landfill. I wonder would your local paper do a piece about your refuge needing stuff like food, bedding and so on.

Just remembered something else - the shelter also got local primary schools and youth groups like the cubs and scouts involved - they would do food collections for the shelter.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 16, 2013, 19:57
We have had reports in the local papers and the local tv stations did bits about us, but nothing came of it, folk just do not want to be bothered with dogs here.
Our refuge is in a coucnil owned stables- today a snotty president of the local horse society, who thinks he is head and shoulders better than us grotty peasants, told the refuge President that he wants to take over the stables for his horses  :mad:  The stables are for horses and not for dogs he said. 
Just hope the council do not agree with him!
He really is a bad example of a ´gentleman´  :mad:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on November 16, 2013, 20:02
Oh Pamela - more worries for you - hope he gets told to sling his hook.  >:(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on November 16, 2013, 20:17
Our ward always collects food, toys, bedding material for one of the cats and dogs homes in Plymouth.
I have the responsibility for it and take it out in the new year.
They always ask me if I want to look around but I always decline as i'd go home with a kitten or a puppy!! :wub:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 24, 2013, 14:54
The horse people have been turning up at the refuge trying to get in- so we now cannot let anyone into the refuge.  It is really worrying.  Where will we go with almost 50 dogs if the council chuck us off?  If we were given land somewhere else we do not have the funds to build kennels or fence it off.
Most of the ´horse´ people are wealthy land owners with friends in the right place.  If the Mayor turns them down what is to stop the next Mayor giving the refuge to them?  It was originally built as a riding school, so perfect for the horse crowd.  More sleepless nights ahead for us all.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on November 24, 2013, 17:27
That is a big worry for you all. Could you get the TV/newspaper people  involved? :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 05, 2014, 22:01
Lots to update....
The little girl we were fostering arrives any time now at her new home, I hope they all get on!!  Life is quiet without Belle here. I am watching the tracker of her progress, almost there (Blacktoft)
Today we were at a market with refuge stuff, a very quiet day, we took just 17-18€  There is another market in Moron next month, supposed to be much better, so we will go there. 
This afternoon 5 pups, a few days old were abandoned in a bucket, so we have them here and a lady will take them tomorrow morning, she lives 2.5-3 hours away, so we will meet half way.  She is used to hand rearing puppies.  They are very fat and feisty, so I am hopeful.  I am sleeping on the sofa tonight, so I can feed them every few hours!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: GrannieAnnie on January 05, 2014, 22:21
You are certainly a glutton for punishment Pamela.  Do you mean the puppies were left at your house or the refuge?

Poor little things.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on January 06, 2014, 07:53
poor wee puppies, also I cant help but worry about the mother dog she must be distraught. Fingers crossed the pups make it :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 06, 2014, 17:28
The pups are now with their new carer, the lady has hand reared puppies before, so is experienced. I fed them every 2-2 1/2 hours throughout the night. I feel like I have been out on the town, very hung over!!
They were left at the refuge door. 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 12, 2014, 12:13
We are fostering another refuge pup, he is huge!  Poor Tano, 5 months old, has had 2 operations for a prolapsed anus.  The last one was 3 weeks ago, last night it popped back out, luckily this morning it was back in again.  He had his breakfast, dog meat, a little pasta and peas and carrots (what the vet said to give him) and did a poo, out it popped again, but only a small bit and went back in (hope you are not eating your meal while reading this)
Tano is a playing machine, he loves our Labrador Charlie, Charlie is very patient with him, puts up with the ear pulling etc.
One of the puppies at the refuge was adopted yesterday, which was good news.
The pups that were abandoned are doing well, eyes opened and wobbling about the lady says!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on January 12, 2014, 14:00
Pamela ask you vet if it is ok to use a little haemorrhoid cream on his prolapse - it might help it shrink a little  :) 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 12, 2014, 14:12
He would need a whole tube!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on January 12, 2014, 22:08
Poor pup he has my sympathies  ???
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 27, 2014, 19:00
Update- pups prolapse is still inside- so no prolapse!  The puppies are suspected to be Spanish Water dog, lovely dogs, they are growing up fast, the lady who took them is keeping me updated.
This weekend I managed to get close to a galgo dog that has been wandering here for a few weeks.  I put a photo of her on my facebook page and a lady in the UK has found a space for him at the Greyhound rescue in Birmingham, so today I went and ´caught´ the galgo.  He was being ´fed´ by a family, not very well, she was skin and bone- the dish was cat food size! When we went back to take the dog the man said we could not take her, he had fed her for 15 days- we asked if he wanted to keep her- no- but he did not want us to take her as he had fed her for 15 days-  his wife came out and said take her! So we have taken her to another refuge, ours has no room, and soon she will go to the UK.  We got her checked for a microchip- none- what a surprise.  She is a very gentle dog, a person dog.  She was excellent in the car- I guess she is used to travelling in the back of a car/trailer to go hunting. 
It was on the tv the other night,around 20-30,000 galgo dogs will be abandoned in Spain every year- disgusting.
The end of January begins the closed season for hunting- so time to abandon the dogs you can not be bothered to feed, or shoot them, hang them, throw them down old wells, maim them so they cannot walk- anything but feed them and look after them.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on January 27, 2014, 19:13
That is good news for the rescued dog but horrendous news about all the other abandoned dogs. Are there moves in Spain to get all dogs licensed or something?
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on January 27, 2014, 20:50
It's shocking how some people treat animals. :mad:
I've heard of beagles being treated like that here when they are past their best :mad:

Good job there are good peeps like you about Pamela :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 27, 2014, 21:11
Forgot to say, Tano the pup with the problem b*m has gone to a new foster home- our cats are relieved! 
ALL dogs, cats and ferrets are supposed to be microchipped- out of all the refuge dogs only 2 have been found to have a chip- and one of them we did not want to return, she had been used as a breeding machine we were sure, but there was nothing we could do about it, the law said she was owned by the chip owner >:( Not that he had ever reported her as missing.  She had been checked for a chip, but none found, it turned up way down her body, a volunteer found it while petting her.


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on January 27, 2014, 21:48
Hello Oliveview, what a heroic job you are doing. I live out in the countryside in Teruel and can confirm what you say about abandoned hunting dogs in Spain. Round here, it's not the locals who abandon their dogs but hunters from elsewhere who just leave them when they head home. Even the locals, however, have a very matter-of-fact approach to their animals, to put it politely.

Where I lived before, there was a plot of land waiting to be built on. Every summer before the holidays and shortly after Christmas, all kinds of animals would be lobbed over the fence onto this patch of land. We took in cats, dogs, tortoises and rabbits. We were like the local zoo at one point, with kids stopping to peer in through the gate.  We found homes for most of the animals, a few we took to our local cat and dogs home. The rabbits tended to disappear, however, I hope to multiply rather than down nextdoor's rottweiler's gullet. All of our cats were abandoned there, including a truly gorgeous Tonkinese and a couple of moggies that we still have. The Tonkinese peed everywhere around the house when we took her in and I'm sure she was chucked out because somebody was more interested in their parquet and couldn't be bothered to house train her.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 05, 2014, 13:14
Well, Tano did not stay at the other family for long, he is now back on our sofa-  I am trying my best to find a home for him.  I intend to take some a nice photo or two of him this afternoon, I will post one here. He has had no more problems, he eats meat/pasta and veg and oranges he picks up that fall off the tree, peel and all- which passes through him!!!   :lol:
 We also have a galgo, (type of greyhound) she was abandoned in the olive grove   she was so skinny.  A lovely lady in the UK said she would sponsor her and find a foster home/home for her in the UK, which is happening.  Another refuge agreed to take Nieve, but after her blood tests were positive for Leishmania they said to take her out (After they had recieved almost 300€) they never refunded any of the money!!!  We went to collect her,she was skinnier than when we left her there, I was shocked! For the money they had not fed her much!   We have had her here now for just over 2 weeks and she had gained over 6kg, her weight is all but perfect now.  All being well, she will be off to the UK very soon.  I will post a photo of her too! 
Off to take a photo or two

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 05, 2014, 16:27
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/NieveTanoCampo5thMarch2014031.jpg)

Nieve, looking fabulous!

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/NieveTanoCampo5thMarch2014013.jpg)

Tano
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/NieveTanoCampo5thMarch2014009.jpg)




Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on March 05, 2014, 20:10
They look so cute!
And they look so well cared for and loved. They are lucky dogs. :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on March 05, 2014, 21:26
Lovely dogs Pamela. Tango looks adorable,good job you're not closer,although I could never have one,my hubby can't abide pets. He doesn't like that our son has a dog.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on March 06, 2014, 07:36
both look gorgeous Pamela and a credit to the care you give them.
My husband is the opposite to yours Snowdrops, I showed him a photo yesterday of a St.Bernhard who had been taken to a rescue because the owner is too ill to look after him properly and my Jim simply said "when are you going to fetch him?" On this occasion I was the one who said no - with 3 big dogs plus my little Rosie we have enough on - especially now the Newfies have swimming lessons   :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on March 06, 2014, 07:43
Saying that he was the one concerned that it was too far for sons dog to go on holiday if we all went to Southern Ireland for a holiday this year.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 25, 2014, 16:05
Thought I would update- Nieve the Galgo is going off to the UK on 15th April- to a foster home via the Birmingham Greyhound Protection group and Tano is off to a forever foster home in the UK via another rescue group.  Tano is now on 1 1/2 cups of dog biscuit and tinned meat with a little bit of Pasta/veg. 
Now on to the sad news-  yesterday we took our little Lola to the vet (ok, a skin infection, on antibiotics) on the way home we stopped at the shop of the refuge president.  A couple were there with two puppies, Spanish Mastin possible Labrador cross, about 2 months.  They had been thrown over the fence at the refuge, while the dogs were out on the field running about.  One of the dogs was injured as it fell, and the dogs on the field bit it, but not badly, well badly enough to need 4 stitches.  A vet came and sorted the poor puppy, he said the pup had a broken leg, so that evening we took it to a vet for an xray (the vet is setting up a new practice in the town, so no equipment yet) As the other vet thought, the back leg was broken, not just a little, totally shattered  and the hip broken badly too.  We took the decision to have the poor thing (named Symba and I said he could not die without a name) put to sleep.  The vet said poor Symba would have  lots of problems as he would be at least 40kg and would suffer lots as his weight would make him have a lot of pain.  If he were like Tibet, our dog, who had the femur head removed, it would be ok as Tibet is not a heavy dog and his body can cope with a sometimes lame leg, but a 40kg or more dog would be very hard for it. Also, who would re-home a 40kg or more dog who was more than likely doing to be ´disabled´ .
 Another factor we had to take into consideration was the cost, there is another dog, found with a bady broken leg (shot) his bill is nudging 2,000€ :ohmy:  Luckily, another bigger refuge took him on for us and we raise what we can for them. 
The vet said Symba´s injuries were caused by being dropped from a great height >:( :mad: :(  Sadly the people who saw the man throw the pups over the fence did not get the car numberplate.
A poo day.

Anyone want a Spanish Mastin/Labrador?  Looks like a very fluffy Andrex puppy!!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on March 25, 2014, 18:39
A happy  story :) and a sad story :(
You made the right decision about the puppy - it's awful and sad but quality of life is so important. :(
The people that 'throw' dogs away are he ones that need shooting! :mad: Terrible.

You do such a good job Pamela xxxxx
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on March 26, 2014, 12:19
Great news about the two dogs getting their new forever homes. So sad about Symba, although I agree that was the best action you could do (sadly no insurance company would cover for any problems that arose from this injury in the future).
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 26, 2014, 14:11
A 3 legged Spanish Mastin/Lab would have been very hard tofind a home for, a 4 legged one would be bad enough.  A lady did say a shepherd might be interested in the other pup- but we have seen how the shepherds treat their dogs!  I know that is what Mastin were bred for, but it is a very hard life for the dog and the shepherd.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on March 26, 2014, 14:34
sadly most people from other countries or cultures aren't as soft as we are towards our four legged friends. I hope that if the shepherd does get the pup he will care for it  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on March 26, 2014, 18:45
Maybe it would be worth meeting the shepherd concerned and his current dogs. Where we are, the shepherds who treat their dogs well far outnumber those who don't, and they are much, much better than hunters as their livelihood depends on their dogs. One of our dogs nearly went to a shepherd, and she would have made a fantastic dog for him, as she is always on the lookout for a job she thinks might need doing. We live in ideal circumstances for dogs and they are deeply loved and have lots of activity and stimulation and company all day, but even so I can see that she would have benefited from having a mission in life, especially with this particular shepherd, who is one of the kindest men I have ever met, including to his dogs.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 26, 2014, 21:02
You are right Snoop, I should make enquiries, I am doing what I get annoyed at other folk doing, judging without knowing!

Panela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 05, 2014, 10:24
The shepherd has aquired 2 mastin pups, so no home yet for the puppy, she is in foster care at the moment.

Update on the home front here-  Nieve, the Galgo,  goes off to the UK on the 15th April  :( :D  We take her to Malaga to start the first part of her transport to the UK  She will go to a dog ´hotel´ where a vet will go and check her health, give her the tick treatment and a worm tablet and then the next day she will start her journey to her new life with a foster family from the Birmingham Greyhound Protection group.  I am going to miss her she is such a sweetheart, walks well on the lead, is clean (except when we overslept one morning) She does not like the rain though, so one day I had to put her coat on and wrap a big plastic bin bag over it to get her to leave the house!!  Tano was due to go to a foster hime on the 29th, but due to a vet being ´correct´ and dating the passport for the next rabies jab for a months time, he will be delayed going.  Andalucia law states dogs/Cats and ferrets have to have 2 rabies jabs, else where is just one, the vet would not leave the due date empty- so Tano gets another 2 weeks and a bit here, not too bad.   
He is now on 2 meals of 1 1/2 cups of dog biscuit, 1/4 large tin of meat and a little pasta/veg mix, all well, no prolapse,  he helps himself to windfall oranges, peel and all!!  They stop him from getting constipated  :lol: :lol:
The vet last night had no real idea as to what breed Tano is  :lol: :lol: 
Our house will soon be a bit quieter, fingers crossed!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 12, 2014, 06:27
Today is the day- NIeve the galgo starts her journey to her new life and a safe life from hunters.
I am goig to miss her like hell.  We meet up with Antonio, who transports the dogs to the UK soon.  She will go off to Benidorm way, where she will be checked by a vet on Monday and all the paperwork/pill/tick stuff given.
On the happy side, we gain back our spare bedroom from the cats!

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on April 12, 2014, 21:22
You must be so proud to have done such a good job with Nieve - you really brought her back to life, so yes, you'll miss her, but be happy.
I hope her future life is just as happy as the time she's had with you  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 14, 2014, 16:59
I will be happy when Tano goes, he keeps eating my flowers!!
He has pulled 3 palms off my palm tree, they are razor sharp too!  The blackberry crop will be down too, he has pulled loads up!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: sunshineband on April 14, 2014, 17:11
Pamela, I really don't know how you cope with such terrible things day after day. I really admire your tenacity, and what a difference the refuge is making to these dogs.

On balance, it is more good news than not I think  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 17, 2014, 13:30
Nieve arrived at her foster home in the early hours of this morning- she has settled straight in and Karen said she is very well behaved, excellent with the other dogs and very good with the cat.  The official government vet checked her this morning and said she is in very good condition.  They think she will be re-homed to a forever home  quickly as she is a very friendly loving dog (she smiles at you too) 
I am so happy for her, she deserves the best life possible-she has already claimed the sofa as her bed!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on April 17, 2014, 13:32
That is a lovely story Pamela :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 17, 2014, 14:02
I think there is someone interested in Nieve already- her behind has hardly got the seat warm!!! :D :D :D :D

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on April 17, 2014, 14:07
thats great news  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on April 17, 2014, 21:27
I do hope she finds her forever home. :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 22, 2014, 14:22
The new home fell through- the son decided he wanted to adopt a black dog- which is good news as black greyhounds are hard to home.  There is another family wanting Nieve, as long as they can get her doggy health insurance- they are looking into it. If they change their minds there are folk queuing up for her, or the foster Mum  might keep Nieve, she is in love with her.


2 German Shepherd cross pups are at the refuge now, they had been abandoned, just what we do not need! Today another GS (pure by the looks of it) was found, a pregnant Bodeguero and a couple of days ago a Spanish Waterdog type puppy just about 2 months old, was living below a car, infact he (or she) had climbed into the wheelarch to hide.  The poor pup was full of cuts and bruises, it looks like a dog had attacked it. At the moment it is in the vet getting treatment.  Never ending

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on April 22, 2014, 15:27
Just more good work for you to do Pamela  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 01, 2014, 21:55
Nieve went off to her forever home tonight- to live with a retired greyhound and 2 cats- hopefully we will get the odd update on her.  Karen, her foster Mum said Noeve was a fabulous dog to look after, she was house trained and crept up onto her bed at night! 

Pamela

ps
another dog chucked over the fence today at the refuge :mad:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 03, 2014, 10:50
We are fostering another dog here, Nani, she is a fabulous little dog,about 4.5-5kg  very scruffy, a Yorky in there somewhere I think going by her colouring.  She was sterilised yesterday, hence being here.  She is such a good dog, at the refuge she is well behaved too.  She is about 21 months old now- she was around 11 months when thrown over the refuge fence with her pups. The pups starred in the refuge calender, remember them? 
She has a plastic things on her head, she is not keen!!  She slept all night and woke us at 7.45 to go out.  Good girl  :D :D

Pamela

PS She gets on well with our dogs, she has ignored the cats and the hens too
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 04, 2014, 21:55
The refuge had a table at a once a month market, it was very quiet, mother's day here in Spain. We took enough for 4 sacks of food and the plant I raffled will pay for 2 injections, plus a donation for another 2 so not so bad.  An annoying man got me mad, he is always a nuisance, in the end I told him he was being stupid.
We had a refuge pup with us, plus Nani, the dog staying with us, when we took pup back to the refuge 2 more dogs had been thrown over the fence! :(
What do people think we have??? Elastic walls???

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 07, 2014, 11:33
Nani is being good, we can´t go and leave her though, she gets very destressed.  SHe has not bothered with her operation wound- we took  the plastic  thingy off- I have a beautiful black bruise where she bashed my leg with it!  :lol: :lol:  There just might be a family interested in her in Aberdeen, so fingers crossed!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on May 09, 2014, 07:14
I guess the people who throw their unwanted dogs over your walls feel they are doing the right thing rather than just dumping the dogs anywhere. Sadly they ought to make a donation at the same time.
Rosies mum was left tied to the rescues gates one night when she was days away from giving birth to Rosie and her sisters  :(.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on May 09, 2014, 14:38
people can be evil :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 11, 2014, 12:40
Nani is off to Scotland- a lady will foster her there until she finds a home for her  :D  I gave Nani a haircut today, she was so well behaved.  I discovered we had spare cheapo hair clippers I had forgotten about, so thought what had I to lose (or Nani to lose, other than hair) If I say so myself, it is not a bad attempt and Nani looks much tidier.  I will photobucket the photos later of her and add them here

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 12, 2014, 09:28
Got the wrong lady-Nani is not off to Scotland!!  It is Worcester way I think!  Someone else has asked about her too, so fingers crossed, as the Worcester home is a foster home.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on May 12, 2014, 19:37
Good news  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 18, 2014, 10:10
Just 8 more sleeps and Tano is off to his new home- thank god!!  His work to date:  ripped the tablecloth off the patio table (a plastic one, pinned on tight) chewed 2 holes in a patchwork chair cover I made, chewed the cuff off my good cardigan, trimmed a couple of rose plants to the ground- pulled up most of the blackberries, totally chewed the bird of paradise plant- pulled leaves off the young palm tree (they are sharp too!) pulled up lilies, pulled a branch off a young lemon tree, pulled off Timon´s scalibor collar and chewed it to pieces and today managed to get Chalrie the Lab´s scalibor collar off and his proper collar- both were still done up, I amsurprised Charlie still had his ears left on his head as yesterday I thought the collar was going to have to be renewed as it was looking a tad small for him! Oh I forgot, he has ripped the shading stuff we have on the fence too!  I keep telling myself he is just a puppy!!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 23, 2014, 13:46
3 more sleeps! Today Tano ate my lovely lily flower!  Apart from eating flowers, he is good!  Refuge good news, a small dog I found in the middle of the main road, a year ago, is being adopted to Scotland, he is off with another dog, she is off to near Hull. A Dalmatian dog, who was,abandoned about 6 months ago, is on trial, so fingers crossed for him. Two pups that were thrown over the fence are being adopted too!!  Just another 40plus to find homes for!


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on May 23, 2014, 22:31
 :ohmy:
I hope lillies aren't as deadly poisonous to dogs as they are to cats!! :unsure:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 23, 2014, 23:21
I only found out today that they are poisonous!  He has eaten the other ones, since he arrived here!  We dug up the oleander shrubs incase he decided to eat them, one transplanted well the other has died.


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on May 23, 2014, 23:25
I know that for cats, even a hint of the pollen or the stem sap leads to multi-organ failure in cats!

Tano might just have a cast iron stomach :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 25, 2014, 07:59
Well the day has arrived, Tano's last full day with us. He starts his journey to Harrogate tomorrow. Well to get collected, taken to the dog hotel, then vet checked on Tuesday and sets off on Wednesday. Poor boy will wonder what is happening I bet. He has grown so much, I am sure he has Irish wolfhound in him somewhere!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 27, 2014, 15:57
We took Tano to meet his transport yesterday, he spends today in a kennels where a government approved vet checks the dogs health, microchip and passport and gives them the flea/tick treatment and a worm tablet (which is just the right time for Tano as he was due another the beg. June) I wonder what the poor boy is thinking now?  He went off quite happy- he likes being in cars.  He starts his journey proper to the UK tomorrow morning.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on May 27, 2014, 22:10
Oh you must be wondering what will come through your door next, you have done him proud. Hope he gets the forever home he deserves. :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 28, 2014, 10:24
Talk about bad timing, the mother of the lady who is fostering Tano at first passed away this morning- Tano will be just what she does not need! He is well on his way too. 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on May 28, 2014, 12:32
Oh dear, he of course might just be what she needs to take her mind off things when the formalities are dealt with.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 30, 2014, 09:06
Tano arrives at his fosterhome around 1pm today- I hope they like him.  We might be fostering a little puppy- but just for a week I have said, we have visitors coming and the pup will sleep in the bathroom, it is the only room with a door, other than bedrooms!
The puppy was found on a street, a family siad they would take him, they took him back- because he pees and poos in the house- well that is what tiny puppies do!  Perhaps they should adopt a toy dog instead!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on May 31, 2014, 11:10
Tano has been off lead for the first time, in the forest, he is having a great time I have been told  :D

We are now fostering a puppy, the family who had him did not want him, he did poo's and pee's :ohmy:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on June 01, 2014, 10:58
Good to hear about Tano. What dog wouldn't enjoy a forest? Congrats on another success.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 01, 2014, 18:15
This puppy- a small type- looks like a bit of Chihuahua in him, can pee and pee and pee :lol: :lol:  I think it is related to a camel the amount of water he carries!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 06, 2014, 12:17
Puppy is off to Barcelona tomorrow- to a foster home there, phew!!  Nani, fingers crossed is off to the UK on 25th June-along with 2 other refuge dogs!  We will miss Nani, she goes everywhere with us, she is such a well behaved dog.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 23, 2014, 07:05
Nani does not get to go off this week, the home she was going to has kennel cough, so she is off on the 11th to a foster home with a view to adopt if all is ok. 
Celeste (who is Nani´s double but fat) and Milo both refuge dogs are off to start the journey to their forever homes today, Celeste to a family who adopted Belle, the dog that was rough  in the carpark of the venta bar, she is a very lucky girl, she is going to Blacktoft (?)  and Milo is off to Scotland, to the west coast, Girvan, so he will get to run and play on the beach with 2 other dogs!  The refuge are just so very happy for the chance of a better life for the dogs.  Celeste had been at the refuge for over 2 years and was getting so unhappy and scared of life.  She can now enjoy life.  Milo was being picked on, he was the ´underdog´  he never fought back (luckily I guess) now he can start his new life  and forget the bullies.
I get updates about Tano- he is a fabulous well behaved dog (I think they are talking about a different dog had I not been sent photos!) So that is the good news for the refuge.  There is even a chance on grumpy Pumba finding a home!!  That is the biggest shock of all!  He is a pint sized dog, always overlooked. 
More puppies are being found every day- we are unable to take them, so are always looking for foster homes.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on June 23, 2014, 07:38
Pamela - it must give you great pleasure when you find forever homes for some of the dogs. Makes the hard work worthwhile. Thank you for sharing the good news with us.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on June 24, 2014, 22:50
It's lovely to hear all the good news about the forever homes  :)
Good work ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 25, 2014, 10:34
A facebook group that I belong to, that posts information on dogs needing homes for refuges,  has taken in a Spanish Mastin and her 8 puppies (there should have been 10 but the pound gave 2 away at 5 weeks old) the dogs were just a few days away from being killed.  Lots of folk are asking about the Mum and her pups- when told the adoption fee was 100€ for the dogs- that is for a vet check- microchip, worming, passport and all injections needed the lady said that surely the rescue were joking- they should give the dogs away free!!!  The her husband sent a private message saying the rescue were a charity, so all funds for the injections etc should come out of the money they take in!!!  The woman said she had never paid more than 10€, the price of a sack of food ( a very small sack if she only gave 10€)   She was told sorry, 100€   Who do they think magics the money out of the air for the dogs food, vet care etc???  I know 100€ sounds a lot, but if you are getting a dog vaccinated at the vets yourself, for everything- it would cost more than that!  She wanted it without the vaccinations too!!!  If you are really lucky, you will get a sterilised dog for that price too!!  Some people do not live in the real world.  They think there is a refuge fairy, like a tooth fairy, who drops money off for the refuges! 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on June 25, 2014, 10:37
That is crazy Pamela. If she cannot afford 100 euros for a dog can she afford the upkeep.  :nowink:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Dilly Dom on June 25, 2014, 10:47
Some people really make my blood boil.  If they are so mean minded as to not want to make a payment for an animal from a rescue centre then in my mind they don't deserve the animal :mad:

We visit Spain a lot on our travels and am amazed how many Spanish people chuck their dogs out to wander the  streets for the day!

We have always had rescue cats/dogs.  In fact this winter when we were over there my father-in-law died and he'd recently taken in an little old dog which had been found wandering the streets of Alicanti he'd already got all her paperwork in place so we went over with our old Labrador and came back with two!!  She's a real little cutie and has settled in well.

I know there seem to be quite a lot of ex pats over there that are working for refuges, there are always ladies on the market at Calpe collecting donations etc for the local dogs.

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 25, 2014, 10:56
I do not think it was the fact she could not afford the dog, she could not see why she had to pay to ´rescue´ a dog!
 It costs aprox 78-88€ for the passport stuff- that is with the kennel cough vaccination if going abroad by a pet carrier, anything from 55€- 155€ or more to sterilise (depending on the weight of the dog and if the vet gives us a deal) so if they get a sterilised dog for 100€ they have a bargain!!!  If the dog is not sterilised the adoption fee is less, but we can get them sterilised if the owner pays (in advance now, the last time the new owner let us down and it cost us  170€ for the castration!) Even for that dog, who was adopted by another family we only asked for 80€ but now we have decided we will have to ask for more, depending on the cost of the castration, so from 80-100€ 

Pamela

PS Well done Dilly Dom for taking on your Dads rescue dog :D :D :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on June 26, 2014, 08:57
I do believe some people think there is a refuge fairy who sees to all the animals needs for free ::)
€100 is not a huge amount of money. You just have to cover the costs of those who are caring for the dogs ie: the refuge.  ;)
Many people seem to want something for nothing these days! :mad:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Elvira on June 26, 2014, 13:32
Does the woman not realise how much a puppy from a breeder is these days? Your costs are very low compared to that - especially if the dog/bitch is neutered (which is easily a couple of hundred pounds). 

We adopted some rabbits and they were £50 each which didn't even cover the costs of neutering them - the refuge had a lovely vet who did this at a huge discount but this was still more than the £50.  Like your refuge, the lady who took in the rabbits (Alice at Windwhistle) relied on contributions and free labour and her sheer love of animals - she had to cope once with 60 rabbits being taken in one time (shades of Father Ted!)  I still find her dedication amazing but this can only stretch so far without contributions.

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on June 26, 2014, 14:54
It raises a wry smile that the UK public are known as animal lovers, more is given to animal welfare charities per annum than any charities.  However, when it comes to adopting from them they're taken aback at being asked to pay x amount rather than being allowed to offer a donation.

When we adopted our kittens last year, the cost was £45 each.  For that they had been cared for, vet checked, chipped and received the first of their vaccines.  People don't always look at the bigger picture.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on June 26, 2014, 15:28
sadly all rescues get the same comments given to them. I paid £90 for my Rosie because she is a staffy x and was too young to be speyed (I had to undertake to get her speyed and provide proof that this had been done when she was old enough to be done) and my Ols when we got her we paid £250 because she was a pedigree pup (Neapolitan mastiff) and again had to get her speyed when she reached an age old enough to be done. The cost of adopting these was less than going to a breeder (Neapolitans start at £800) and although her vaccinations and food would have been a fraction of the cost there are also the heating bills, staff bills, clean bedding etc to pay and also the cost of the other dogs who are there and not yet adopted.
My two Newfies came to me for free because the owner needed to rehome them quickly and I had experience of giant breeds including Newfoundlands.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on June 26, 2014, 16:16
It raises a wry smile that the UK public are known as animal lovers, more is given to animal welfare charities per annum than any charities.  However, when it comes to adopting from them they're taken aback at being asked to pay x amount rather than being allowed to offer a donation.

When we adopted our kittens last year, the cost was £45 each.  For that they had been cared for, vet checked, chipped and received the first of their vaccines.  People don't always look at the bigger picture.

Cheap at half the price! My parents took in two black castrated toms aged three or so ten years or so ago and paid £300 to the charity that had taken them in. They were quite surprised at the cost, it must be said.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 26, 2014, 16:19
I was told by our neighbour that his cousins husband (who has since died) could not be bothered with his     ´old´ Galgo dogs, a greyhound type-  they are 3-4 years old, did I want them for the refuge????  I had to think hard- sorry no!  They are safe, they have excellent brand new kennels, are well fed- so why would we want them?  The son looks after them, he is in his late 20´s, he is quite capable  of looking after the dogs, they were his in the first place.

The good news is all the dogs on the doggy transport with For the Love of Dogs and Cats have gotten through passport control they were subjected to a second check-why they did not know-  they were told all the paperwork was excellent, the transport excellent and that it is a shame other transporters were not as good!!  :D They take every dog and check it for chip, paperwork is correct etc- one trip a few months back a dog ´lost´ it´s chip  :ohmy:  2 vets had checked it, the dogs are always double checked before being taken into the transport, and the chip number checked against the passport- all was fine- then by the time the dog got to Calais the chip had gone!!  He was taken to another vet to be re-checked, they scanned him all over- no chip was to be found!!!  Either the chip failed or it found it´s way out! 

We had a refuge dog once, the  dogs are always taken to the police to be checked for a chip- nothing.  One day the lady who was fostering him was rubbing his paw- felt a bump- there was his chip, down in his paw! He was re-united with his owner!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on June 26, 2014, 18:34
Those chips do migrate quite a lot!!
I found a strange lump on Lotty in the garden the other day and went looking for a large tick in her fur - said to Ben about it and he said - "It's her chip!!"

It started in her shoulder and now it's in her lower leg! ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on June 27, 2014, 12:00
yes it happens a lot where the chip moves.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 27, 2014, 18:59
So nervous/excited, Celeste is now the next dog to be ´dropped off´ Poor girl is such a shy thing, I hope she is ok.  She will have a wonderful life with her new family I know, she will take time though!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 30, 2014, 14:17
Celeste is very nervous, but getting better, she will realise she is safe. Milo took to his new home as if he had always been there, he even fell in the pond!!
Nani goes off in 9 days, will miss her, she is a sweetheart. This afternoon we go to pick up a Yorky cross, she was in the Zoosanitorio pound in Sevilla, she was in danger of being killed, they cull the dogs there, they no not get long there.  She was supposed to be s boy!!
She is going to Miss Mollies Rescue, the same people who rehomed Tano.  Tano has a big fan club!!
We said no more fostering this summer!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 01, 2014, 10:21
Well Scooby, now Daisy is here.  She smelt dreadful and her fur was all greasy- so the first thing was a shower, then another shower!  She is a beauty. 
We stopped at the vet on the way home, the pound had given her a rabies jab and  dated for a year ahead when the next jab is due-   which would be good, only they have used a vaccine that is only valid for 15 days and the 2nd jab has to be given in 15 days.  The vaccine used not one on the UK list of approved jabs, so the vet gave her another jab!  Then a re-jab in a month, as is Andalucian law.  Her passport says 13 months old, but she is more like 18-24 months. She has not long had pups either- her teats are big, either not long or had a few.
Daisy is back to be sterilised today.  She willmake a great pet, good with cats too and the dogs all get on, not bothered at all.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 02, 2014, 10:23
Daisy has been spayed, all ok.  She is a sweet girl, very quiet.  How can a person just throw her onto the street? 
Back to the vet this morning to get her checked.  We will take Nani with us too, then we can take her to see the president of the refuge, as Nani starts her journey tp the UK next week.  The president´s baby is due in the next week or so, so she might be indisposed very soon!!
Celeste has been causing problems,she was going for her new owner and attacking her other dogs- very out of character with Celeste, she was such a peaceful quiet dog.   The owner realised that Celeste had 3 toys in her bed, she was protecting them like they were her babies!!  She would not leave them alone.  So this  morning when Celeste left the bed for a pee the babies were re-homed to the toy box!  A snake, a duck and a doll!!  Hopefully now Celeste will be over the protecting my babies syndrome.  She has never had a soft toy before!!
Silly Celeste

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 07, 2014, 14:41
Nani goes off tomorrow :( I know she will be happy, so I must be happy for her too. She is now a playful happy girl :D

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on July 07, 2014, 20:44
More good news Pamela - lovely to hear  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on July 08, 2014, 09:25
great news  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: compostqueen on July 08, 2014, 09:52
Well done Olive!  You are doing a great job. Keep on keepin on  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 12, 2014, 15:26
I got a bit of a shock on Monday- we got a call to say the pick-up had been changed, instead of Tuesday it would be in 6 hours- so my plans for Nani all went out the window.  So a very early tea for her, as I did not want her travelling on a very fat tummy.  She went off howling the van down!  When we got tot he pick-up point (just 10 min from here, and not an almost 2 hour trip to Malaga) Antonio came to meet us at the car, I opened the door and Nani started to growl and growl, she was protecting me!!  She soon made friends with ANtonio over a piece of  home made livercake,  fickle woman that she is!  Her microchip was checked- all correct and off to the van she went.  :(  Antonio pulled out behind us and as we stopped at the first junction we could hear Nani howling away!  :( :( 
She went to a dog residencia where the UK government appointed vet checks her chip, passport and gives her a worm tablet and flea and tick treatment then yesterday they started the trek to the UK.  I know she will be ok, she is such a sociable girl- the lady who is adopting her (all being well) is the mother of the lady who fostered the Galgo Nieve I rescued. 
Watching the journey on a tracker, they are in teh UK now- behind schedule as there was a bad accident close to Paris last night so traffic diverted onto small roads.  The last trip they finshed 6 hours or so ahead, not this time!
We have been sent photo´s of Milo in Scotland, he is so happy, loves the sea! Celeste was very very scared, but now she is getting there and playing with the other dogs, so Celeste will soon be a very  happy girl!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on July 12, 2014, 20:01
Oh poor Nani, she must be frightened, if only she could understand it will be for the better for her. Well done on such a good job you do for them all. :nowink:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on July 13, 2014, 05:42
luckily dogs are very adaptable and once they know they are in a happy place they soon relax  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 15, 2014, 14:56
Yesterday was a happy and sad day at the refuge.  We had had 4 pups dumped at the door- we could not take them inside as we had no place what ever to put them.  Then a little while later the mum and another pup arrived (The mum looks like a short haired German Pointer)  We tried to find a foster home locally but nothing.  Then a rescue came to our help, so yesterday Jim and I went to collect the puppies and their Mum.  On the way to the refuge a message came through to say Pumba, our old boy at the refuge, was dead  :( :(  What a shock.  He was a sometimes grumpy old man, but when Pumba was happy Pumba was very happy.  We think he died of a heart attack- he was old and the temperatures were very hot (been around 38-40 deg) It was a very sad day for us all, we all loved Pumba.  He was on the verge of going to a forever foster home too.  I always said Pumba would die at the refuge. People say it is a shame refuge dogs do not have a family- it is a big shame-but our dogs are all well fed and mostly very happy dogs, they do not know a warm sofa (we were given a sofa for them to sit on, it lasted 2-3 days :ohmy: :lol:) but Pumba knew that we all loved him xxx   
The pups were all ok in the car- shame I cannot say the same for the Mum- she had very bad diarrhea- all over the back ´boot´ bit of our car- ohh the smell!!  There was not a bit not covered in it!!  So the first thing when we got to the refuge was to hose down the spare type cover bit and I had to take off my trousers and wash them too! Thankfully it was hot and they dried fast.  Then it was bath time for Mum, as she was covered in poo too. The poor girl, only young, her teeth are pristine, was skin and bone, that did not happen overnight.  They are now all safe and hopefully all will be healthy.  The pups had huge fat bellies, but that could be worms.
We are still fostering Daisy and tomorrow we get Rosie, she is in a killing pound.  Both are off to new homes in the UK.
People ask why do we try to get homes in the UK when there are plenty of dogs in the UK needing homes.    We are trying (my friend and I) to save dogs from the ´perreras´ (pounds)  they are not a nice place to go- hell is the word for them.  If you look on youtube for the perrera at Mairena del Aljarafe you will see what hell is like for these dogs.  That was closed down by people pressure after the pictures were released, we have been told that there are some pounds far far worse than Mairena del Aljarafe.  After Mairena was closed more photo´s emerged, bodies of dogs piled high there. There was cats too, they suffer the same fate in the pounds.
Now the good news, Celeste is fabulous and so happy in her home, she even sits on the sofa!!  Milo has a fan club up in Scotland and so does Tano in Harrogate.  Nani (who I think might be re-named Annie) is in doggy heaven- she had a roast dinner on Sunday- and ate the cats roast too!!
Tomorrow Daisy gets a haircut and her last blood test for med diseases.  The other two were negative.   :D  Rosie will just be here for a week, she is booked in for a sterilisation operation on Thursday. 
So finishing on a happy note  :D

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on July 15, 2014, 15:55
Pamela - thank you once again for your update. It is hard to read sometimes and must be even harder for you to deal with on a daily basis but so good to know that someone cares for these animals.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on July 15, 2014, 16:09
Pumba was loved and he won't be forgotten x

On a lighter note, whilst having a glass of wine at the weekend, I was thinking about the dogs who have come to the UK.  They will all be bilingual and I wondered if they barked in Spanish :lol: By then it was two glasses ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 15, 2014, 17:06
The dogs pick up the language much faster than us humans do  :lol: :lol:

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on July 15, 2014, 17:09
Milo with a Spanish/Scottish accented bark :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 17, 2014, 12:13
We have had a birth at the refuge- well not quite at the refuge---------  the President gave birth to her first baby yesterday, a 6lb 1oz boy called Jose Antonio  :D   We have been sent photo´s, why do Spanish babies have so much hair??? :lol:
On the  hottest day of the year, 42deg  :ohmy: :ohmy:
Roll on winter!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on July 17, 2014, 14:40
Roll on winter!

Pamela

I've been thinking just the same. Just three months to our first frost! I'm guessing you don't get frosts where you are.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on July 17, 2014, 22:03
We get the odd light frost, not very often though.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 04, 2014, 20:36
Sad news form the refuge- we are closing down-  we will still have the Association but no refuge, we will help the street dogs still-  mostly by foster homes.
It all went really nasty in the past couple of weeks.  A galgo (greyhound type hunting dog) was found in terrible condition, she had been seen around a factory for ages. The volunteers eventually were able to catch her.  She was very ill, she had had pups and her placenta was still hanging half in/out the vet said she was just a day or so from dying. Nowhere were the pups to be found and she had sat at the factory door for a few days.  She tested positive for heart worm and Leishmania too.  After she was rescued (and taken to a specialist rescue) 3 men turned up at the refuge demanding their dog back- she was a champion they said and very valuable- so valuable they had not even bothered to chip her! 
Anyway things turned nasty and the men threatened the girls there.  A week or so later the ´owners´ wife turned up at a volunteers house, forced her way in and took the volunteers dog!  She got it back.  Another volunteer has been threatened in the street by the hunters. We have decided that we can no longer put the young volunteers lives (mostly young girls 18-20 years) in danger as the threats have happened before. The men have threatened to throw poison into the refuge field too, so as soon as all the volunteers are told (a meeting this week) we will start asking other rescues around Spain if they can help us.  It is all very sad.

Pamela


Sorry, just edited my spelling mistakes, typing without glasses not a good idea!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on August 04, 2014, 21:02
Oh Pamela - I am so sorry to hear about this. Those hunters must be horrible people - not to care for the dog in the first place and then to threaten the refuge workers. But I think you are right - it would not be right to put the young volunteers in danger. Just a thought - can the police not help.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on August 04, 2014, 21:48
Oh Pamela, I don't know what to say, it's truly awful, those poor volunteers and the dogs.  People can be evil, very evil.  I wouldn't be surprised if they left the dog so they didn't have to pay for treatment and only want it back because it's been treated for free.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on August 04, 2014, 22:03
That is awful news Pamela.
Those men have shown no care for that dog so far, it will be their fault that she's on deaths door, but you lot get the cr@p!! Shocking!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
So sad for you all and all your good work :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on August 04, 2014, 22:16
So very sorry to hear that terrible news. What atrocious behaviour but you are right in that you cannot continue with that risk over your heads.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: New shoot on August 05, 2014, 09:00
That is very sad news, but you are right.  You can't ignore the threats.

What a real shame  :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 05, 2014, 09:12
Anyone want to adopt a dog???   :lol: :lol: 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on August 05, 2014, 20:56
I would if I could Pamela :(  I'd even learn Spanish  ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on August 05, 2014, 21:31
Anyone want to adopt a dog???   :lol: :lol: 

Pamela
We'd love to have a dog or 2 - but we both work long hours and it's not fair to leave  a dog alone all day (the cats are well happy when we leave for work :D) - we're both far to responsible until one of us can reduce/quit/win the lottery...    :lol: :lol: :lol: 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on August 05, 2014, 23:40
So sorry to hear the news Pamela but the risks must be taken into account as you say  :(  >:(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: surbie100 on August 06, 2014, 07:45
So sorry to hear the news Pamela, but it doesn't sound like there is anything else you could do. I hope you get the story of exactly why you had to close into the press.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on August 06, 2014, 11:50
how awful for you Pamela I do hope the police can help xx
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 19, 2014, 21:58
We are fostering 2 dogs here at the moment- a small terrier type- Rosie.  Rosie is off to a new home in the UK as soon as her funds are raised.  She was living in a terrible pound.  We also have ´Cora´ she is very pregnant- due is 2 weeks or so.  We are taking her across to Benidorm- well we are taking her close to, the lady will meet us at Elche. We must be crazy, taking a stray dog all the way across Spain! We could not leave her at the bar, she would give birth right next to the mainroad.  She is a sweet dog, I know the rules- a photo- I must get some.  Hopefully after Rosie goes off (October)  we will have a rest from fostering- we have not had a break from foster dogs since last December!!  We need to spend money on our dogs for a change!!


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on August 19, 2014, 22:06
You're a saint to those animals Pamela  :) :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 24, 2014, 11:57
Well the good news is the refuge is, all being well, remaining where it is- as long as the town hall allow the new association to take over, they own the building.  The new President hopes to find funding for 10 kennels and sponsors for the food.  He is going to speak to the Mayor tomorrow, so fingers crossed.
We are taking Cora, the very much pregnant dog, to Murcia tomorrow, where we will meet up with the lady who is going to foster her until she can find a home for her and the puppies.  (5 or 6 possibly  :ohmy:) 
We have been asked if we can take a Chihuahua that is in danger in a high kill pound-  hoping somebody else comes along to help first! 
We have never been to Murcia (just over 5 hours drive away)  Cora is off to Benidorm,  we looked at hotel prices- 120€ a night  :ohmy:  Alicante was not much less  :ohmy:  We found a 4 star hotel in Murcia, 36€ a night  :D  can afford that!!!  Will stay for the night and head home Tuesday afternoon. 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on August 24, 2014, 12:11
That is good news Pamela!
Fingers crossed you'll get to stay x
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on August 24, 2014, 14:57
So hope that it all comes good for you all :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on August 27, 2014, 17:26
We took Cora to Murcia, without incident (for her)  she was great in the car, a great dog.   We met the lady who is fostering her in Ikea carpark-  We were walking along and I kicked (by accident) a small metal plate that was sticking out from the bottom of a post.  Boy did it hurt.  3 hours in A & E  all ok, just a bad bruise!! 
Cora has settled fine in her foster home, such a fickle girl! 
Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on August 27, 2014, 21:30
Oh dear Pamela, hope you feel better soon, I'm  pleased Cora is settling well  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 15, 2014, 20:04
Been ages since I updated the refuge news it seems-  Cora gave birth to 5 gorgeous puppies, they are about 10 days old.  She is a good Mum, although leaves them and takes herself off for a cuddle then back to feed the pups, she is a great Mum we have been told. The pups all have short legs, thank goodness, so they should re-home easier.
Rubi, our Podenco went off to a new home in the UK, where she has slotted right in and is a playful happy girl- at the refuge she was so depressed.    The rescue that has adopted Rubi (she is adopted by the boss)  is possibly adopting 2 more, Morci and Lola, mother and daughter- so fingers crossed for them.  The lady said she will work with our refuge and try to find our dogs their happy ever after homes, so fingers crossed for that too.
We still have Rosie, she is off at the end of the month- whoohoo.  She has such a brain piercing yap!!!   She is either good or noisy and does not understand no, she thinks no means do it more and louder!! She is not naughty as such, just the YAP  :ohmy: :lol:

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on September 15, 2014, 22:46
Some good results there - must make it all worth while.  :D
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 22, 2014, 20:16
Well, refuge is going on, but the new president is acting like a p**t and has banned anyone from the old regime and changed the locks!!!  I am still allowed in as I have found homes for some dogs. I told him I am not taking sides, I am there for the dogs. I will give it a little while longer then leave I think, there is only so much rubbish I can take.  We hope to bring Morci and Lola to our house on Friday, then once their transport funds are raised they will be off to their happy ever after. Poor Morci, she is almost 3, she was born in the refuge, her time must come soon she is probably thé longest staying dog, along with her Mum Lola.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on September 22, 2014, 20:44
 :( sorry to hear it's so pants for everyone Pamela.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on September 29, 2014, 12:52
sadly in animal rescues there is often a lot of spats that get completely out of hand.
I hope Lola and Morci are in new homes soon.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on September 29, 2014, 23:38
Well one dogs leaves us and another two take her place!!!  First the news on Rosie-  she arrived at the rescue Miss Mollies in Harrogate yesterday and was taken to a dog show/exhibition-where 5/6 families are interested in adopting her!!  One lady had emailed her application by the evening- so Rosi will have a home, provided they pass the home check- if not there are others waiting  for her!  At the moment she is living with guess who??? Tano!!!  Our old foster boy!!!

Now on to Lola and her daughter Morci-they are here living with us, I took them out of the refuge on Friday- all ok- except  Lola discovered the sofa tonight and got grumpy at sharing it!!  She was told to share or sit on the floor. They have been ok with the cats too.

Our Tibet was castrated last week- he is not impressed, he had taken 3 of the 4 stitches out already and has just one left- if it is still there on Saturday we take him back to have it removed.  He was wearing a collar too and now had a towel rolled into a sausage around his neck- to try to stop him reaching the remaining stitch!

Seems to have quietened down at the refuge- for the moment-  it is silly how stupid it has all turned between the old and new group.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 02, 2014, 17:08
More refuge news-  I have taken myself off the whatsapp message bit-I was getting fed up with all the bitching about the old group-  I said I will still help, but need a break for now from the messages.
We are fostering yet another dog- this one was living rough, we had thought she had a home.  I found out on Wednesday that she was abandoned- and pregnant-  I took her to the vet- he did a scan and said 7-8 puppies.  Then discovered she was chipped.  The owners came along the next day- they said she had run off  2 years ago while they were out hunting- she was scared of the gunfire.  They would not sterilise her, said they would give the puppies to their neighbour-  so they agreed to sign the dog over to me, I have found her a place at a dog rescue in the UK, so once we have her funds she will be off, at least we don´t have to pay for a chip!!  Today she was sterilised- 8 puppies-  I hate the thought of her being sterilised while pregnant- but there was no choice-finding a home for 1 puppy is hard another 7 is impossible.  Off to collect Chispa.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on October 02, 2014, 17:26
Oh Pamela - it is hard enough doing the job that you do without all of that bitching. In the long run you made the right decision for the dogs future - at least this way she should find a nice forever home.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on October 02, 2014, 22:56
Tough decision to make Pamela, but as you say, there are enough unwanted puppies in the world and these 7 or 8 might end up the same way.
Best decision all round really  ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on October 04, 2014, 13:29
Well not good news for the refuge, the townhall want the main building back, so the refuge will just have the 6 stables, so no place to put ill dogs, no place for our cleaning stuff, no place for the fridge, no place for the medicine cupboard, no loo....all we will have is an outside tap.  Will the townhall build a new room outside???

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on October 04, 2014, 19:41
Oh dear  :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on October 05, 2014, 19:05
For us here in Britain, it's quite shocking how animals are view in other countries.  I'm not putting us forward as paragons of virtue, far from it, however we have so many animal rescue centres, I think sometimes we just assume everyone's like us.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 26, 2014, 16:26
The townhall still have not taken back the main building-  not sure they were even going to- the new President said he does not want any dogs inside as it is easier to clean if they are all outside in the cold stables.
He has now got 14 refuge dogs advertised as a gift and no money to pay-  I asked why was he advertising dogs on the equivilent of Gumtree free? He might as well just give them to the dog fighters.  He told me I did not understand Spanish-  I told him not to treat me as stupid and that I understood totally.  That is me finished in the refuge now- I do not think he will have me back! 
The old group are still rescuing dogs-  we are just working with foster families and finding good refuges to take them in. 
Lola and her daughter Morci (I took them early from the refuge as I knew he would cause trouble) went off to the official kennels this morning and Friday they start their journey to their happy new life. We had them here just over 2 months.   We have back the dog that was living at the venta bar and pregnant- she is here until 6-7th Jan or thereabouts.  We have another foster dog, she was pregnant, but we were able to abort the pups, not nice I know, there were 8-  puppies are being abandoned every day here now- it is impossible to home them. She was a nervous wreck, when we first took her in, she  peed when we just looked at her, she is getting better.  She is called Caneli.  She is a sweet dog- what we will do with her I do not know!  If we can build up her confidence she will go to the UK too, to the same rescue as Lola and Morci.
So I might not be involved with the refuge, but still rescuing dogs. 
Before ADAM gave up the refuge we re-homed 20 dogs- some to a refuge in Madrid- the new President was furious-  but every dog has been adopted!!! One dog has/is going to Austria!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Springlands on November 26, 2014, 17:23
Pamela - no wonder you are not working at the refuge any longer - dear knows where those dogs will end up. Good to know that you are still trying and succeeding to rehome some strays.  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on November 26, 2014, 17:36
How did he get to be the president & why did Adam stop being the last one? Is there some back handing going on maybe :mad:
Such a shame when you have worked so tirelessly for those dogs.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on November 26, 2014, 17:45
It's such a shame that thd refuge loses you because of a pig-ignorant man :mad:

It will be less of a stress for you, but you obviously loved helping there which makes it such a terrible loss to those poor dogs and other volunteers :(
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on December 02, 2014, 21:12
We (ADAM)  gave up the refuge as members were being threatened in the street and were told that the dogs would be poisoned.  Also, we were forever broke and not enough members.  We had 40 dogs, but found homes for 20, some in other refuges, where they have already been adopted.  The new group is run by about 6 old members.
Yesterday the local tv were in the town, wanting to interview different groups who volunteer in the town-  so ADAM went along,we were to be interviewed outside the refuge- and they folkwere interviewing the people working at the refgue-  except the ´boss´ was working so did not tell the others about it!  They refused, at first, to let the people in!!!  I was interviewed, I had to speak inEnglish as they wanted it as a foreigners point of view-  I am sure I said totally the wrong things!
Cora is back here, she was sterilised yesterday-  she does not seem bothered at all.  We also have 5 puppies-I was told they were 2 weeks old-  along with their Mum, well for 2 week old pups they can eat solids and lap water-  they are a month at least!!  They should be going off to Barcelona at the weekend (Fingers crossed)

I was asked by neighbours cousin if I wanted 3 cute puppies- NO

Me: I suggest you get the mother sterilised- a local vet has an offer for December 60-70€
Her:  who pays?
Me:  you
Her:  Oh no I am not paying for a dog to be sterilised
ME:  I walked away

So if I were to say oh the rescue will pay she would say ok, but get a tight fisted Spaniard to pay for their dog/cat no way!!  She is newly widowed- but not short of a few bob. 

Lola and Morci the two refuge dogs arrived in the UK on SUnday-  the lady who is fostering them there said they are fabulous- but will not go outside to pee or poo in the rain!

I do not know when/if my clip will be on tv, if it is I will let you know!

Pamela


Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on December 11, 2014, 12:34
When we think it cannot get any worse it does-  Yesterday a Podenco (a Spanish hunting dog) was rescued off the street-  we had been told about her and Jose had spotted her but he was walking with his 4 dogs so could not catch her.  She is in a terrible state-  her right side backleg has been chopped off, probably in a trap, she is very pregnant, has an ulcer on her eye, so maybe blind- has a possible tumour on her side too-  this afternoon she is going to the vet to have the pups aborted- not what we or the vet like having done, but what choice is there? She will also have a biopsy on the tumour too.  She is about 2-3 years old, just a baby.  She was eating paper from the bins to survive.  I guess folk are thinking why do we not put her to sleep?  but it is so B***** hard to make that decission, we will go by what the vet says once the biopsy results come back. 

I will let you know how Sofía gets on


Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Dilly Dom on December 11, 2014, 13:28
Reading your last post Pamela has bought a tear to my ear, its absolutely heartbreaking.

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Aled on January 08, 2015, 09:28
I think you are doing a very good job. Good on you Oliveview.
I am hoping to rehome a rescue dog in the not too distant future.
Cheers
Aled
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on January 08, 2015, 13:06
it is so sad how the dogs are treated over there, my heart breaks whenever I read about the state they are found in, but those found are the lucky ones who are either treated or put to sleep, the ones nobody can catch or find out about too late who are not so lucky.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 15, 2015, 09:28
Since I last wrote here we have fostered 5 pups and their mum for just over a week, they went off to Barcelona,  where. 2 pups were reserved the day they arrived and mum and others  now adopted too.  We now have a puppy in our garage, he and his siblings were/are living under a prickly pear hedge. We tried to catch them the other night,  I got bitten and pood on! I had to let puppy go as the prickly pears were digging into my head! I had to get the other girl to pull it out of my head!! Last night they managed to catch one puppy 🐶 he is now in our garage until I know he is not ill.
Hopefully. They can catch the remaining 3 puppies,  if not, it will be a cage trap and food
Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: LotuSeed on January 15, 2015, 12:18
The world could use a lot more people like you!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 17, 2015, 15:04
A volunteer and her husband managed to get the braver of the three remaining pups this morning, she  is the one that bit me, and another volunteer the other day.  :lol: She is now in our garage with Tintin, she has been named Snowy.  She is so gorgeous, and friendly- she was just scared the other day, she is pure white with a ginger ear.  Tintin and Snowy were pleased to see each other and were chasing about the garage together.  Hopefully later on today the other two will be caught, as heavy rain is due overnight and tomorrow. 
I hope they are found a home soon as 10 dogs here is too many!

Anyone want a cute Bodeguero type dog?  Good for ratting they say!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on January 18, 2015, 21:02
We tried to get the last two puppies this evening but they were too deep inside the prickly pears. After an hour or so we called the fire brigade, they came along but by then it was too dangerous as it was getting dark, the thorns are huge and can rip you to shreds. We left the pups with the shelter another volunteer had built moved closer and covers inside.  The poor pups were soaking wet.  I just hope they have the sense to use the shelter.

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on January 19, 2015, 16:22
I so admire your love and patience Pamela :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on February 11, 2015, 19:37
WE HAVE 4 PUPPIES!!!!

What a weekend, we spent ages on Saturday, I went to see the vet and asked if it would be dangerous to give the pups a tranquiliser and catch them that way- he said no, it would be ok.  So Saturday I put a pill in each dish and sat and watched at a distance and both dogs went into the house and ate- we waited an hour and then went on the puppy hunt-  impossible with just me and Jim, so lovely Dani (the vet) and his fiancee the lovely Jenni came to help.  Dani managed to grab hold of the bigger puppy (yes he got bitten and pood on) we tried to get the smaller puppy- no chance she hid well.  So in the evening we left another pill, poor puppy was howling for her mate- she ate the meat with the pill-  but could we get her???  Gave up again.
Sunday:  got there early, she was about, but I did not want to chase her again, so just left some food and went back with another volunteer in the evening-  all ok.
Monday- Met a volunteer there in the evening-  saw puppy at a distance- discovered the shelter had been tipped up-  it was the back of an old TV covered in thick plastic and wired to a very heavy pallet- no way could it have blown over or another dog tipped it up.  It was obvious it was for a dog, there was bedding and a food dish inside.  We straightened it up and pushed it back into the prickly pears (I was cursing whoever tipped it up)  we went back to our cars and then a man appeared, he was collecting scrap metal-  I bet he was the person who tipped it up. 
Tuesday:  Went back in afternoon (Monday and Tuesday morning Jim had been with our neighbour who was getting a cataract op) Left the new pill and a half (she was going to go to sleep this time!!)  settled down to watch from a distance and a man appeared and started to cut the weeds and grass for a horse!  So puppy was scared off.  Removed the pill as by then it was not long until the galgo´s were let off on the field for their exercise. Left a small amount of food, so she would be hungry for today.
Wednesday:  Got there for 11.30-  thought she would be starving-  saw her running through the olive grove.  Left the pill in her house (pushed in) and went through the olive grove looking for her, but she had gone along the path and headed into the prickly pears (sure she was laughing at me hunting for her)  so I went across the field and sat under an olive tree where I could watch.  Then a lady and man arrive with their dog!!!  I ran across the field screaming NO NO I was worried the dog would eat the pill and a half!  The lady had noticed the puppy 2 days ago so had left food yesterday morning (no wonder she had not eaten my food yesterday!!) she had food and water for her today.  I said it was ok, I had left food with a pill in it.    I waited and waited-  she was sitting way away from the food-  so I moved it closer to where she was sitting-  HUH!  in the end I thought to hell and put it back in the house and me and Jim went to get a drink in town.  We got back and I went to check- she was sitting in the sun, I checked the house- food gone!!  So we sat and waited in the car for another 45 min.  I then sent a message to Jenni and she and Dani came to help us.  I had made a mark in the soil where I had last seen her.  There she was right in the middle of the prickly pears.  Dani dived right in and as a man appeared with his little dog (who had come from our refuge-  the dog was a screamer) there was screaming, we thought it was Toby!!  It was our puppy, Dani, he had hold of the pup by her back leg!!  She was doing her best to bite him- we could not get her into the carrier-  she tried to escape-  I grabbed her (got a small bite)  I gave Dani my coat and we covered her head with it and managed to get her into the carrier!!  So now we have 4 puppies in our garage-  they are outside in the day, just in there when we are out and at night.  The first two- Tintin and Snowy are friendly,  the 3rd one, Danny (after the vet) was thinking about being friendly this morning but now Jenny (after the fiancee Jenni) is here he is back hiding with her again. 
I am shattered-  but we have the puppies safe-  they cannot travel to a rescue until they have had their vaccinations, the first two will not be a problem,  the other 2  will be a little while until they come close!  Danny did venture in the house yesterday afternoon, so little by little we will win them over- with food!

Dani, the vet,  had knelt on a prickly pear,  he had a knee full of thorns!  Such a hero, he did not moan :D

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on February 11, 2015, 19:43
My word such perseverance from you all. Well done, & such a shame the pups don't know how lucky they are
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Yorkie on February 11, 2015, 23:52
Blimey  :ohmy:

Well done all of you!
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on February 12, 2015, 15:54
well done on sticking in there to get all 4 safe  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: devonbarmygardener on February 12, 2015, 17:54
Pamela - you are a goddess! :D

Your passion for these dogs is amazing :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Mother-Hen on February 12, 2015, 21:12
You are truly truly amazing! If only there were more kind caring and devoted people around like you. A true inspiration.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Aled on February 13, 2015, 10:37
Well done oliveview.
Cheers
Aled
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on February 23, 2015, 22:23
Another mum and her 3 newborn pups were rescued last weekend, they were living way down in a hollow tree trunk. Dani the vet managed to rescue them. One pup is very very tin,  the other 2 are fine.  Mum has a big lump where she had been hit.  She was starving and had killed 2 chickens,  the chicken owner was going to kill her.   Tonight another very pregnant dog has been found,  it goes on and on. Over 30 dogs have been taken in since January,  it is so depressing.  Today Jim and I saw a very thin young galgo,  but she ran off, I do not know what we would have done had we caught her. As I said,  so depressing

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 14, 2015, 15:50
Well a month has gone past since the last puppy Jenny arrived.  Danny and Jenny are still nervous but will lick our outstretched hands and jump all over us when we let them out of the garage. Tintin has been adopted, Jenny has a home to go to in the UK,  the same family are considering Snowy too. I must put some photos here for you to see our dogs!
So much for the dogs being here for 2 weeks tops!!
Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 16:21
I will post the photos of our pups,  the Prickly Pear pups
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 16:24
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0107.jpg)

Tintin- who is adopted
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 16:26
Snowy, left and Jenny right-  Jenny is reserved for adoption
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Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 16:27
Danny- who is also still waiting

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Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 16:33
And here is little Caneli, the dog who was abandoned and pregnant-  she is a short legged Podenco (Podenco Maneto)  her parents were Podenco and Bodeguero, but Caneli is a Pod and no sign of a Bod in her!

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Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: surbie100 on March 15, 2015, 16:44
Canell is so beautiful. I'd have her if I could. Well done you for still being able to do this, even after all the mess with the refuge and the Town Hall.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on March 15, 2015, 17:01
Caneli needs a special home as she can jump and climb and squeeze through a small gap!  She used to pee with fright if we just looked at her, now she is so good.  She can smile too.  Love her to bits.   :( :(

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 14, 2015, 13:22
Tintin and Snowy are adopted,  Danny went to a foster home with a view to adopt, but was very traumatised-  not surprised, the transport up to Barcelona exceeded bad-  it took 48 hours.  In my opiniion the family did not give Danny long-  they asked for his to be removed within 48 hours as he was nervous-  they had been told he was a nervous dog and needed time-  he is now with his sister Snowy (she is adopted) and happy.  They will try to socialise him more and then find a new forever home.  Tintin is adopted and Jenny reserved for adoption-  she is supposed to be sterilised today, but will not let us put the harness on her, she is still nervous of being touched.  SHe has had a tranquiliser pill too!! 
Caneli is still with us, looks like forever! 

5 more pups found in the last month, a lady was fostering them for us, she runs a rescue-  one of the pups was badly hurt in an attack this morning, so we are having to find a home urgently.

Off to try to get the harness on Jenny and not get a bitten!!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on April 14, 2015, 14:13
I do wish people would give these dogs more time, dogs dont understand what is happening when they are pushed from pillar to post. We think the little lad we took in on Tuesday has now lived in 5 homes (including ours) and he is only somewhere between 8 months and 1 year old. Luckily he fitted in with the other dogs straight away so we will be his last home, our Fred is here to stay  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 15, 2015, 13:13
We managed to get Jenny to the vet, she had 1,5 tranquiliser pills!!   She is sterilised and wearing a collar,  today she is very jumpy,  so leaving her alone.  She came into our bedroom last night and looked about then went back to the living room.  The 3 puppies are out of the foster home,  the injured one had been to the vet,  he looked terrible,  so we (Jim, Yoli,  the president of the group and me went to get the pup)  took him to the vet who helps our group and he cleaned the wounds and gave her an injection.  He kept the clinic open for us.
So we now have 2 more puppies here,  we said no more!  Luckily they all get on. There were a few moans but now all ignoring eachother. The puppies have to meet our cats still.
The injured one is at Yoli's house,  he was going to a foster home but as his injuries were worse than we thought he is staying close to the rescue vet. 
What sort of dog have you adopted Joy,  a big one I bet?

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on April 15, 2015, 14:50
no he's a little one - well little for us anyway. He is a bull terrier x - but looks just like a bull terrier so we have sent his dna swabs off for testing. He is a right character and has fitted in brilliantly. So we are a 4 dog family - 2 giants hairy things - 1 x male 1 x female and 2 small ones 1 x female and now 1 x male - perfect  :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on April 15, 2015, 14:58
I think it's time for a family photo Joyfull  ;)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on April 15, 2015, 15:07
I keep trying but it says my photos are too big, they was alright on my old phone but too big on my new one.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: evie2 on April 15, 2015, 15:29
What you need is a 10 year old, in our case a 5 year old, they're experts with computers ::)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: snowdrops on April 15, 2015, 18:21
no he's a little one - well little for us anyway. He is a bull terrier x - but looks just like a bull terrier so we have sent his dna swabs off for testing. He is a right character and has fitted in brilliantly. So we are a 4 dog family - 2 giants hairy things - 1 x male 1 x female and 2 small ones 1 x female and now 1 x male - perfect  :)

Oh a bully, what fun you'll have,such character,& when they look at you with one beady eye down that snout,you just have to laugh.  :lol:. You need to get the photos sorted for sure now :)
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 18, 2015, 13:27
Jenny is gradually losing her fear, she is much happier without her brother and sister here, Snowy was always the demanding one.  The foster for Danny did not work out,  so he has gone to a lady who is an expert with dogs with problems.  Danny is not a nasty dog, just so nervous of everybody.  He was happy with his sister, but the two of them were causing chaos and the neighbours were complaining about the barking! I think it is better he is away from Snowy, then hopefully he will gain in confidence.
We took one of the other pups we were fostering to the vet today, they (the vet and his fiancee) are off to Malaga and taking Celeste 2 (called that cos she is the image of another refuge dog Celeste!) to her new home.  The family have given her a new name, but to us she will always be Celeste 2.  She is such a gentle dog, so quiet and well behaved.  Her brother, we have named Tedy (spelt the Spanish way) was the bouncier of the two, but still well behaved,  he is still looking for his home.  We have not heard him bark at all.  He is good with our cats,  he wallked up to Miki, sniffed him and Miki tapped him twice with his paw,  claws not drawn,  Tedy screamed like a baby! He has a sausage type body, coloured like a Yorki, short legs and a big tan coloured  head, totally odd shape.  I will try to get a photo here later.
A lady I  ´know´ via FB and a rescue group  had taken in a very scared pregnant Podenco dog, she was abandoned, she took her to the vet to be checked and he said her heart was not coping with the pregnancy and her life could be in danger if she continued with the pregnancy, he advised an abortion. It was  luckily he did, the poor girl was carrying 14 puppies, the vet said it would have certainly killed her as the puppies were going to be big.   
The injured puppy is fine,  he does not realise he has a bad wound on his neck!  He is now with his foster family recovering. 

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on April 18, 2015, 13:38
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/jumbolola/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0568.jpg)

Their last photo together.  Happy New LIfe Celeste 2,  you deserve it.   :D :D :D

Pamela

PS  Celeste on the left, Tedy the right
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Dave NE on August 03, 2015, 16:28
We adopted Bobby from Rumania two months ago (Yorkshire terrier), he has been such a good friend to Buster in his last months of life and now Bobby is still bemused even though we showed him Busters body, I don't know if that was a good or bad thing to do, we thought it might bring a little closure to events. The things that are happening in Rumania are really shocking, Dave
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on August 04, 2015, 09:11
dogs grieve just like we do, most of mine have grieved for a week or so but have known others to grieve for months.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Snoop on August 04, 2015, 13:12
When I was a bit younger, a dog of ours pined away when one of our cats died. They'd been very close (slept in the same basket every night almost since the cat arrived as a kitten some 12 years earlier). My parents were heartbroken at the loss of both the cat and the dog. And people say animals don't mourn.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Aled on August 07, 2015, 09:18
When our black lab passed away (he was 17yrs old) the cat spent about a week wandering around the house, and asking to be let into every room, and every wardrobe. I think (although I don't know) he was looking for the dog. He also used to do the same when my parents went on holiday and he was home alone with me.
Cheers
Aled 
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: RubyR3d on August 16, 2015, 17:27
We adopted Bobby from Rumania two months ago (Yorkshire terrier), he has been such a good friend to Buster in his last months of life and now Bobby is still bemused even though we showed him Busters body, I don't know if that was a good or bad thing to do, we thought it might bring a little closure to events. The things that are happening in Rumania are really shocking, Dave
.     My daughter adopted a dog from Romania via a lady who fosters them in the next village. They raise money here to send to wonderful ppl over there who rescue them and sort out papers and travel. She's adorable, and now with alice she's beautifully behaved and lovable. Wherever she goes with her ppl actually stop to stroke her and she loves it. Yes things ARE appalling over there. So much cruelty everwhere in the world towards creatures.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on December 19, 2015, 14:28
It has been a long time since I updated here-  I will update the last year!
We fostered the 4 prickly pear pups until they were found new homes-  one went to a family local, two to families in Barcelona and the other to a lady in the UK.  We said we would not foster for a while-   I think form memory that lasted a couple of weeks!   A lady had been fostering 5 puppies for our rescue group-  2 went off to a new rescue group to find homes for and the other three remained with the lady- sadly some of hr dogs decided to attack one of the pups-  he was badly hurt but survived.  We went the same day to collect the 3 pups, we fostered the 2 un-injured pups and the other went to a lady for rest and tlc, he was fine and was adopted.  The other two went to new families not that long after, I actually forgot, we had them at the same time as we had Jenny the last prickly pear pup here! 
We fostered a Teckel type dog for a month- he was hard work, he hated Charlie and would attack Charlie at every chance-  one day Charlie bit him back- so off to the vet.  In the end we had to cage Chechu if Charlie came into the house.  Charlie would look in the front door to see if it were safe, then run under the table to hide.  The family who adopted Chechu say he is great with other dogs!  All the dogs we have ever fostered (about 30)  have all loved Charlie and followed him everywhere. 
We then fostered 5 young puppies that were abandoned-  oh they were hard work-  5 pups meant a lot of poo and pee!!  I tried leaving them in a  dog crate the first night, not a good idea, they were covered in poo the next morning!  They all had dreadful fleas-  I took 40 off one of the little girls the second day!  They were too young to be treated with the strong flea stuff, I had to dip a cloth in the mix and wipe it over their coats.  Once their fleas had gone I tried them with our dogs, our lab Charlie (33kg) was terrified of them (1.5kg)   All 5 went to new homes in Barcelona.  NO MORE fosters we said.

We then fostered a small galgo for a couple of days- NO MORE we said.

We are now fostering an Ibizan Podenco-  she is pure white, with huge spotty ginger ears and a ginger ring like eye liner about one eye.  She is as skinny as can be (breed type) and legs that go on forever and is taller than Charlie.  She loves nothing but playing.  At night she sleeps in the garage- as soon as she is let out it is chase Charlie about the garden time .  She is totally clean, and very well behaved.  I did catch her one evening trying to eat sardines out of the tub as I was doing the dogs meals-  I went to get her dish from the garage, I arrived  back into the kitchen and discovered her with her head in the tub! 

A man went to the president of the rescue groups house and said Nuba was his Podenco-  she had no microchip-  there is a scar on the top of her leg, about where a chip would have been.  The hunter was told that she had been sterilised-  ´oh I don´t want her then´  he said-  not that he was getting her anyway- no chip so not his!  She is about a year old, she has a couple of ´large´ teats, I would not be surprised if she had already had pups.  She hasn´t been sterilised yet, hopefully the group can get it done in the New Year.  We were just supposed to have Nuba here for a couple of nights, but the lady who was fostering her only has a roof terrace, not ideal for a Pod that needs space-  so as she was good we said we would foster her until she gets a home.  She was interested in our cats-  Miki saw her and chased across the room and whacked her with his paw-  she now ignores him!

If anyone wants to adopt a Podenco- I have one!!!

Pamela

Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: JaK on January 09, 2016, 21:01
Wow you have certainly had your hands full! I love reading your updates, it makes me want to foster once the children have flown the nest.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: joyfull on January 10, 2016, 12:20
fostering is great, today I say goodbye to my foster boy - he is a 6 year old English bull terrier who for the last 4 years has spent most of his time living in a crate. Today he is going to his forever home down south.
My Fred was a foster but has stayed with me and shall do forever.
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on June 27, 2016, 18:28
A long time has passed since I wrote here!
Nuba went to a rescue in Scotland, in a house, not a kennel, she was reserved for adoption virtually straight, she is now happy in her new home. We said no more foster dogs here for a while, so the very next day we picked up a little boy!  Ozzy was living next to the A92 motorway, on a busy road, how he survived I do not know. There had been another dog with him, a Podenco with a rope about her neck. She was caught with a dog trap, the rope was embedded deep into her neck! Kim, as she has been named has healed fast and is living with the president of the group For the love of dogs and cats. She is very nervous, but today actually let the ladies son stroke her!!  Back to Ozzy, we think he is a Bodeguero Pincher cross. He loves everyone, every dog, except the vets dog!!  :lol:
Ozzy is off to the UK this weekend, he was seen on my fb page and the lady who adopted Nani, another of our foster dogs wants to adopt Ozzy too!! 
I don't know if you remember the ' prickly pear' pups we rescued, the last, Jenny was terrified of everything and everyone, she was adopted to the UK and yesterday won best rescue and reserve champion in the local dog show!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:  Little scared Jenny has done good!
Once Ozzy goes off, no more foster dogs, for a while anyway, this time we will stick to it!  With the £/€ we need to tighten our belts for a bit!  :( 

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Aled on November 16, 2016, 10:14
Hi Oliveiview
I hope you are well. Which dog refuge are you involved with please? We are looking for an older dog to rehome.
All the best
Aled
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Oliveview on November 21, 2016, 15:18
Hi Alex, have you got your older dog yet?  My friend is hopefully taking a 10 year old pregnant podenco from a horrible perrera (pound), she is waiting for permission for the dog to be able to leave before she gives birth there. 
We did say no more fosters after Ozzy left...... We then took in Chico, a possible Chihuahua cross miniature Pinscher, he was adopted and we then took in two Galgo, very similar to Greyhound, Galgo are abandoned in their tens of thousands every year. Poor Rey has Leish, but luckily low level. He has had his leg broken and left to mend, so now it is fused at the lowest joint.  He has a huge scar on his vack too. Leo is in perfect health. They both go to Birmingham greyhound protection, leaving us on Wednesday. We will not be without a foster dog though, we have Mario, a Bodeguero Andaluz. He is not cat friendly! There has been a podenco on the track by our house, so keeping a look out for him too! 
Mario heads off to Miss Mollies Rescue in Harrogate in January, if we get the podenco he will be heading off too in January. Then NO MORE DOGS until after April!!

Pamela
Title: Re: News from the refuge
Post by: Aled on November 22, 2016, 09:52
Hi Pamela
Not yet, but we saw a cracking lab around 2 years old in a Spanish rescue, just wondered if you could suggest a rescue for us to have a look at.
Cheers
Aled