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Title: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 07, 2023, 09:42
I fancy trying some everbearing strawberries in hanging baskets in the tunnel (its cold and windy here as per user name!). I live in the back of beyond -my own choice but means I'm limited to buying mail-order.
Couriers only come here twice a week, if that, depending on weather (boats are involved) so delivery can take up to 10 days.

How long would strawberry runners survive in the post? Interested to hear other people's experiences of how they're packed and what condition they arrive in. How long would they take to recover? Would I be better paying more for bigger, pot grown plants? Would they travel better?  Or are seeds plus patience a better bet?
I'm picturing having some to eat this summer. Is that unrealistic?

Where is the best place to buy from?

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: missmoneypenny on March 07, 2023, 10:56
This won’t be what you are hoping for, but I ordered some runners from Thompson and Morgan. I know they dispatched on a Friday and they arrived on a Tuesday. They looked dead, the roots were totally dry and although each plant had at least one live leaf, most leaves were black.  I rang T&M and they sent another set which arrived in better shape. I planted them all and so far it looks like even the 1set might make it. So maybe worth planting even if they look dead, but I think 10 days  in the post would be too much.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 07, 2023, 11:17
This won’t be what you are hoping for, but I ordered some runners from Thompson and Morgan. I know they dispatched on a Friday and they arrived on a Tuesday. They looked dead, the roots were totally dry and although each plant had at least one live leaf, most leaves were black.  I rang T&M and they sent another set which arrived in better shape. I planted them all and so far it looks like even the 1set might make it. So maybe worth planting even if they look dead, but I think 10 days  in the post would be too much.
Thank you, that's very useful information.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Yorkie on March 07, 2023, 17:48
You probably already do this, but it might be worth double checking on any potential supplier's website that they will in fact post live plant material to the Hebrides - given the risks of delay in delivery that you mention.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 07, 2023, 18:42
You probably already do this, but it might be worth double checking on any potential supplier's website that they will in fact post live plant material to the Hebrides - given the risks of delay in delivery that you mention.
Thank you for the reply, yes I always look at that first so I don't spend ages drooling over something only then to find I can't have it! 
DT Brown and Parkers both send live plants here (and for the same price as to anywhere else in UK, which is unusual) . They've been brilliant sending me seeds or bulbs by Royal Mail but they use couriers (Evri) for plants so it looks like I'm going to have to admit it'll be too slow.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 07, 2023, 18:54
 :( So, onwards and upwards. Strawberries from seed! Any tips? Will I get fruit this year? Best place to buy seed for everbearers? Thank you!  :D
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Nobbie on March 07, 2023, 20:24
I think they’d be ok if ordered in winter as they’d be cool for most of the journey. They’re pretty tough plants.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: murphy99 on March 07, 2023, 20:25
have you tried ken muir they are very good
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: wolveryeti on March 07, 2023, 23:32
These guys are worth a look for runners - bought 20 Albion (everbearer) over the weekend and arrived today in good nick. Scotland based so hopefully transit time to Hebrides a bit reduced!

https://james-mcintyre.co.uk/product-category/strawberries/
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 08, 2023, 09:02
These guys are worth a look for runners - bought 20 Albion (everbearer) over the weekend and arrived today in good nick. Scotland based so hopefully transit time to Hebrides a bit reduced!

https://james-mcintyre.co.uk/product-category/strawberries/
That's useful, thank you I haven't tried there. Sounds hopeful that they're sending now, while they're dormant. Everywhere I've tried so far don't send for at least another month. They should at least know where I am too! I'll give them a ring.
 :D
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Goosegirl on March 08, 2023, 11:06
This won’t be what you are hoping for, but I ordered some runners from Thompson and Morgan. I know they dispatched on a Friday and they arrived on a Tuesday. They looked dead, the roots were totally dry and although each plant had at least one live leaf, most leaves were black.  I rang T&M and they sent another set which arrived in better shape. I planted them all and so far it looks like even the 1set might make it. So maybe worth planting even if they look dead, but I think 10 days  in the post would be too much.
Sorry to say, but I never, ever buy anything from them and don't think I'm the only one.  >:( I have just ordered some Elegance strawbs A grade from D.T. Brown and, if they are as good as they were last year, then I will be well pleased. Kings seeds also do the same grade but are out of stock.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 08, 2023, 16:32
I just heard back from James McIntyre & Sons, in Perthshire. They are sending 20 'Albion' crowns by Royal Mail 1st class. Big thank you to wolveryeti for the recommendation. What a lovely friendly family firm. Please all buy from them!!  :D  :D   :D
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 18, 2023, 09:34
Just came back to say thank you. 20 Albion crowns arrived speedily & in lovely condition. Soaked them in warm water & planted in hanging baskets in the cold greenhouse. Already greening up & looking happy.
Chuffed! :D
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: missmoneypenny on March 18, 2023, 09:46
That’s great coldandwindy. I admire your fortitude and ( what seems to me at least) gardening “ on the edge”.
I’ve been laid low by covid so not been to the plot for a week, but last Saturday the strawberries looked ok, including the lot from the  1st delivery which seemed moribund when they arrived. Goosegirl I agree service from Thompson and Morgan can be patchy. Last year it was unsolicited substitutions in my delivery- sent a totally different variety of seed potato with no pre warning.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Hampshire Hog on March 18, 2023, 10:09
A bit off topic but I’m interested to hear that you have been knocked out by Covid this week Missmoneypenny. My wife went down with it this week and testing I see I have it too. Very bad timing there’s a delivery of manure to the plot and I’m supposed to talk at a funeral next Friday!! Very interesting discussion too on best strawberry plants.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: missmoneypenny on March 18, 2023, 12:57
Yes it’s the first time for me , pride comes before a fall , thought I’d never get it somehow. I made myself go to the plot today and managed a shop too. Feeling wiped out now.  Think I got it from m y eldest son who has a pub job. You should be ok infectiousness wise for the talk next week, but you might feel quite tired.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Aunt Sally on March 18, 2023, 13:25
I’ve just planted some 'Mara des Bois' strawberries from Thompson and Morgan.  They arrived in excellent condition within 48 hour.  Their web site (or a phone call) might tell you more about their delivery to your part of the UK.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: coldandwindy on March 19, 2023, 14:18
That’s great coldandwindy. I admire your fortitude and ( what seems to me at least) gardening “ on the edge”.
I’ve been laid low by covid so not been to the plot for a week, but last Saturday the strawberries looked ok, including the lot from the  1st delivery which seemed moribund when they arrived. Goosegirl I agree service from Thompson and Morgan can be patchy. Last year it was unsolicited substitutions in my delivery- sent a totally different variety of seed potato with no pre warning.
Get well soon!
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Grubbypaws on March 22, 2023, 16:47
I am growing strawberries for the first time this year. Question: Lots of 'how to grow' websites say not to let the plants fruit in the first year, is this correct? I am very excited about my strawberries and would love to have some this year but I dont want to ruin future crops so will remove the flowers if it is the best thing to do?
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: snowdrops on March 22, 2023, 19:08
I am growing strawberries for the first time this year. Question: Lots of 'how to grow' websites say not to let the plants fruit in the first year, is this correct? I am very excited about my strawberries and would love to have some this year but I dont want to ruin future crops so will remove the flowers if it is the best thing to do?

Depends on when you planted them in essence, if it was in the autumn or at the latest now, they should be fine. It’s advised not to let them fruit so the plant can bulk up. But what you could do is let them fruit this year, & then take runners from this year, plant them in the autumn & either see how your first plants fare or discard them for the new runners. If you do take runners only take 2 or 3 from each plant & then only take the first plantlet from the parent on the runner ,if that makes sense?
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: Grubbypaws on March 23, 2023, 14:51
Also what is the best mulch. Mostly pictures show straw being used but somewhere I saw mention of pine needles as they raise the acidity of the compost as they decompose?
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: snowdrops on March 23, 2023, 17:27
I just mulch with whatever I’ve got ,well rotted manure or homemade compost. They get a sprinkle of chicken pellets, blood fish & bone or wood ash now & again.
Title: Re: New Strawberries - best way?
Post by: missmoneypenny on April 03, 2023, 19:37
Just updating to say the T&M pst plants which looked moribund when they arrive have recovered well and are now indistinguishable from the plants T&M sent as replacement . So maybe if they arrive looking dreadful all is not lost.