Overnight rain and glyphosate

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SpudtheBinx

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Overnight rain and glyphosate
« on: May 13, 2009, 13:20 »
The forecast for Derby shows it as rain in the small hours, but I was planning on dosing some cooch grass with glyphosate tonight as a load has grown back in the bed I dug over a few weeks a go. Do you reckon it would be worth it? I plan to get the brassicas planted there this weekend and wont have time to de root it all first.

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 14:03 »
glyphosate needs 4-6 hours drying time once sprayed on area to be cleared ,

the chemicals need to be sprayed via a sprayer  25ml per 5 lt sprayer,

for brambles ect  40ml

 to keep them tiny droplets of water on the leaves, and not watered via a watering can,


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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 15:02 »
I would advise you to read the instructions on the bottle label as regards the mix, as it can vary from brand to brand, depending on the concentration.

Last time I used "Roundup" in a sprayer it was 30ml in a litre of water, a lot different to that suggested by Peter.
Did it really tell you to do THAT on the packet?

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 15:14 »
I agree with DD, especially if you got hold of a superconcentrate.

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 16:11 »
 I applied roundup via watering can to half of my plot and it appeared to work just fine
20ml to 10 litres, but it was stump strength

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 16:37 »
Oh I mix it according to instructions. I was just wondering if 5 hours dry was going to be enough after using it. To be honest though looking at the sky now I am not confident that it will be dry until the early hours.

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 17:53 »
Oh I mix it according to instructions. I was just wondering if 5 hours dry was going to be enough after using it. To be honest though looking at the sky now I am not confident that it will be dry until the early hours.

2 shots of fairy liquid in the tank will help it stick.6 hrs min before rain is also correct.
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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 21:18 »
Spray it on then cover it with a sheet? may work??

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 00:02 »
The big advantage of using a watering can is that there are no tiny droplets that can drift on to non-target plants. A can with a dribble bar instead of a rose is better. If there is no risk of drift then fine droplets from a sprayer will cover the leaf surfaces more efficiently with less waste through run off.

I like the idea of covering to protect from rain. It should work.

I am not too sure about adding fairy liquid. The manufacturers have spent a lot of money to get the surfactants right. Can we improve on what they have already put in? Could mess up the way the chemical is absorbed into the plants.

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 00:45 »
  25ml per 5 lt sprayer,

for brambles ect  40ml

 to keep them tiny droplets of water on the leaves, and not watered via a watering can,



I bought neat glyphosate in litre bottles from a company that was recommended, the instructions were to mix 50ml to 1ltr so in my sprayer which is 5ltrs, I put in 250ml of glyphosate. I thought the mix seemed much too strong so I rang the company to query it and was informed that it was the correct mixture. The area I sprayed had bramble, nettles, couch grass and a mass of japanese knotweed. This was done in September on the last growths and it killed the lot, the only thing that started to grow this year was the normal annual seeds and bluebells that were dormant with no leaves at the time of spraying. So it has obviously done no harm to the soil.

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Re: Overnight rain and glyphosate
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 06:51 »
You could deal with the grass mechanically. If you could spare the time to attack the growths weekly, it  would eventually exhaust the shoots and die. Is the growth from seeds you have dug in?

As mickwood suggested, you could cover it, but in that case why not do one job and just cover it with cardboard or weed suppressing fabric and leave it to die? You could plant through the sheet and you wouldn't an unpleasant chemical.



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