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Title: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 23, 2010, 22:12
I have lots of space in between my sweetcorn, and have a lot of celery to plant so I thought I would plant it under the corn. Would there be a problem with this, please?  ::)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 23, 2010, 22:15
If it's self blanching celery you have to plant it in a tight block to make it blanch.  Otherwise it will be green and not a nice flavour.

Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 23, 2010, 22:19
If it's self blanching celery you have to plant it in a tight block to make it blanch.  Otherwise it will be green and not a nice flavour.



I have a lot of celery to get in there...............  :lol:

I'll give it a go. Now't to lose.  :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 23, 2010, 22:23
 ::)  Not a lot of point asking then was there  :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 23, 2010, 22:25
::)  Not a lot of point asking then was there  :)

I won't bother in future then. :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 23, 2010, 22:29
What spacing do you have for the sweetcorn ?


Both sweetcorn and celery are very hungry feeders.  That's why sweetcorn should have quite large spacings.  Celery is planted quite close to exclude the light and blanche it.  Celery needs LOTS of water or it will fail.  Sweetcorn will rob the celery of food and water.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 23, 2010, 22:47
The sweetcorn is at 18" spacing.
Thank you for your last answer, which is what I was looking for, and not your prevoius.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Zippy on June 24, 2010, 00:42
 ???  how rude dude  :tongue2:   :nowink:
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Beetroot queen on June 24, 2010, 06:48
Aunt Sally was trying to help, people wont reply to your posts if you talk to them like you have done here.  :wacko:

Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 24, 2010, 18:07
???  how rude dude  :tongue2:   :nowink:

I wasn't being rude, I was simply making a point. I do not need sarcastic coments everytime I post something which dosen't fall to aunt sally's likeing.

Quote... Not a lot of point asking then was there... /Quote.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2010, 18:11
Well if you ask a question, thereby implying that you actually want advice, and then say you're going to disregard the advice irrespective of a specific answer, it does rather make one wonder why you bothered asking.

People take a lot of time and effort to answer what appear to be genuine questions; it's what makes this forum so great.

If people feel that their answers are going to be routinely ignored (and this is a general point, not aimed at you in particular) then people won't bother answering, to the detriment of the forum.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 24, 2010, 18:24
 Thanks for that Yorkie


I have a lot of celery to get in there...............  :lol:

I'll give it a go. Now't to lose.  :)

You have a lot to lose Andy.  The sweetcorn will suffer from the competition and the celery will fail to thrive from lack of water as the sweetcorn will take it all.

Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 24, 2010, 20:47
Well if you ask a question, thereby implying that you actually want advice, and then say you're going to disregard the advice irrespective of a specific answer, it does rather make one wonder why you bothered asking.

People take a lot of time and effort to answer what appear to be genuine questions; it's what makes this forum so great.

If people feel that their answers are going to be routinely ignored (and this is a general point, not aimed at you in particular) then people won't bother answering, to the detriment of the forum.

Yorkie, I wasn't disregarding the advice, I just have over 100 celery plants and I am prepeared to lose some of them rather than not plant them up in the first place.
I was thinking, better to have tried and failed, than not tried at all.

Aunt Sally,
I wasn't trying to be clever or rude to you. I thank you for your advice, but your coment about not asking the question in the first place did not come across as helpfull.

I appreciate you guy's giving us the wisdom of your experience, but sometimes, after a hard afternoon digging under the sun, things can be taken in the wrong context.

Best regards,
Steve.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: fatcat1955 on June 24, 2010, 21:20
I feel that planting your celery between sweetcorn is not a good idea. You will have to water celery every day in hot weather even when planted on their own. You will probably be looking at a couple of gallons per plant and thats not allowing for the sweetcorn. You will also need access for blanching etc. One other thing, never plant celery next to parsnips because celery fly can infect snips as well.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Ice on June 24, 2010, 21:49
I just have over 100 celery plants and I am prepeared to lose some of them rather than not plant them up in the first place.
I was thinking, better to have tried and failed, than not tried at all.

It would have been helpful to know this in the first place. ::)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: GrannieAnnie on June 24, 2010, 22:13
What are you going to do with 100 head of celery if they all grow?  I like celery, but not that much!  :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 24, 2010, 22:25
I sowed the first lot of seed, and nothing happened. So I put a second lot in,.............................................and all of them came up. Maybe it's a bit typical of this season.
So I have a shedfull of celery...............and no room on the plot.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Zippy on June 24, 2010, 22:29
i would probably give most away, throw a good number of them in the compost bin, feed the rabbit with some and plant ten and look after them well rather than trying to spin so many thirsty plates - design for failure to try to grow all 100 in among sweetcorn.

Pea plants maybe, but not celery.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 24, 2010, 22:38


[/quote]It would have been helpful to know this in the first place. ::)
[/quote]

How? If I plant one celery with sweetcorn will it grow better than 100?
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 24, 2010, 22:39
What variety of celery is it Andy ?
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Ice on June 24, 2010, 22:43


It would have been helpful to know this in the first place. ::)
[/quote]

How? If I plant one celery with sweetcorn will it grow better than 100?
[/quote]My point was that you didn't mention having a glut of celery and having nothing to lose by planting them where you said.

And yes, one celery with sweetcorn would have much more chance than 100.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 24, 2010, 22:46
It would be inedible though Ice !
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 25, 2010, 22:50
What variety of celery is it Andy ?

It is  No 22188 Full White self blanching from The Real Seed Catalogue.

Quote/ Bitter free /Quote.

I obviously need to find somewhere else to plant it but have run out of space.
I may just put it outside my plot in tray's for others to enjoy.

Thanks for the input.  :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 26, 2010, 13:29
This fact sheet from the rhs will tell you about growing them Steve.

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardening/Grow-Your-Own/Veg-A-to-Z/Celery

I have a small block of 16 plants closely planted.  When they are large enough you need to pack the outside rows with straw to prevent light getting in and cause them to blanche as you can see in the picture.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: andy135 on June 26, 2010, 16:28
Thanks for that. Aunt Sally.  :)
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: chris23005 on June 26, 2010, 19:15
Going ever so slightly off topic - what veg WOULD be good to underplant sweetcorn? I hadn't thought of doing that until you all mentioned it.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: Aunt Sally on June 26, 2010, 23:22
Nothing should really be planted under sweetcorm in my opinion as the competition is detrimental to their growth.

You can plant squashes outside of the sweetcorn block and allow them to run between the plants.  They act like a mulch then.
Title: Re: Underplanting sweetcorn with celery.
Post by: chris23005 on June 27, 2010, 08:06
Nothing should really be planted under sweetcorm in my opinion as the competition is detrimental to their growth.

You can plant squashes outside of the sweetcorn block and allow them to run between the plants.  They act like a mulch then.

Thanks for that - don't like squashes much so will just leave them as they are - I am amazed that my sweetcorn has grown at all so don't want to do anything that is likely to stop the process!  ;)