Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Poultry and Pets => Chicken Chat => Topic started by: wildwitchy on March 24, 2011, 19:47
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I hate my neighbour. :ohmy: :mad:
Came home tonight after being on duty all day to find he had shoved a peice of wood under the roof of new coroline roofing on my chicken coop pen to stop (what he thinks) the rain from going into his garden off my roof.
I was livid. This caused the roof to bend upwards & make a large gap for any preditiors to get in to my girls. Good job I spotted it before nightfall.
I've already lost 4 to the fox!
I am so sick of this man & his behaviour & damaging our property. I ended up phoning the police. :(
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I can totally relate to that.We have a neighbour who likes to trespass and modify ours and their other neighbours property,when no one is home(of course).We've had a terrible time and there's nothing we can do as we've no money to sue them(which apparently we could)I sound awful but 5 minutes ago i was just googling 'i hate my neighbours'.
Thank god they haven't said or done anything regarding are chooks.....so far!
Some people are just *******.
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... to stop (what he thinks) the rain from going into his garden off my roof.
What makes him believe this ?
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... to stop (what he thinks) the rain from going into his garden off my roof.
What makes him believe this ?
because my chicken coop is next to the fence as it has always been for the last 3 & half years. I've just put a new roof on thats all. The police have just been & given us some diaries we've got to fill in for 2 weeks or so to monitor his behavior. The only thing is they are going round to see him tomorrow to tell him to wind his neck in and give him a diary so he can monitor our behavoiur! Can you imagine? It will be the best novel going!!! :lol:
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... to stop (what he thinks) the rain from going into his garden off my roof.
What makes him believe this ?
because my chicken coop is next to the fence as it has always been for the last 3 & half years. I've just put a new roof on thats all.
Does the roof slope away from his property ?
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some people wait for any excuse to cause trouble.If it was a real problem why wouldn't he talk to you about it first?
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How has direct conversation gone with him? Has he expressed any concerns with you etc?
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I know it's difficult trying to talk to difficult neighbours, but would it be worth trying to talk to him and explaining the danger he put your girls in? has he any pets or something he's proud of? try asking how he'd feel if pet / favourite plants/car was put in danger by actions of another person? politely of course)
How about devising a small gutter and drainpipe on your hut, feeding a water container for your girls, (save carrying water out as well as well as showing him you are willing to compromise :) ).
BTW is it raining there? I have been thinking our spring water is slowing down.
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I was going to suggest guttering and a fall pipe into a water butt which would show willingness to stop the water going onto your neighbour's
I don't think threatening to kill your neighbour, on a public forum, is the best idea.
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I was going to suggest guttering and a fall pipe into a water butt which would show willingness to stop the water going onto your neighbour's
I don't think threatening to kill your neighbour, on a public forum, is the best idea.
And I was going to say something very similar ::) :lol:
Sorry not a laughing matter but I agree with compostqueen. Life would be so complicated if the neighbour was found (heaven forbid) dead in the middle of the lawn and then someone remembered reading your thread title. :nowink:
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It would get even worse if we all pitched in with our ideas! :blink: :nowink:
I love my neighbours. I feel so lucky. I really must tell them all how much I love them! (Except then they might call the police...)
One of the reasons I appreciate my neighbours so much is that I have had some appalling neighbours over the years. One actually blatantly stole our outdoor furniture. :ohmy: But how do you prove to the police that it's yours? And apart from stealing it back, what can you do? And when you know she's got a really nasty streak and will stop at nothing... :unsure:
Anyway I feel for you wildwitchy. Your home should be a haven for you to return to, to escape the big mean old world. It's incredibly stressful when neighbours make it miserable for you.
Just remember to be the 'better person' so you can always hold your head high and know you did the right thing, even in the face of his unreasonableness.
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Do you know the plant sprayer bottle things?
I bought one for a pound from ASDA
On its lowest setting, it has some serious range.
I use its shortest range to spread glyphosphate over my weeds.
;)
I've had some seriously crazy neighbours.
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I wouldn't advise that Dominic WW still has to live nest door to her neighbours.
Fitting guttering and proving that the run off isn't going into their garden is the best way - or even building a higher fence.
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I wouldn't advise that Dominic WW still has to live nest door to her neighbours.
Fitting guttering and proving that the run off isn't going into their garden is the best way - or even building a higher fence.
This one has my vote. ;)
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The guttering is a brilliant idea!
You get to keep all that lovely rain water - good for the garden and good for the girls! AND it knocks out a whole avenue of complaint. Remember, you're harvesting rainwater, not giving in.
Mark it down in the diary and keep a photo to hand. If you can pour water over the roof to visually record the flow of the water that also might help. If you can also record any 'adjustments' done by your neighbour then this should also go in.
And try voodoo. Perfectly legal and sooo satisfying! Even the most basic of dolls can be easily made, named after the deserving candidate (you don't always need personal stuff inside) and abused to your hearts content when the b****r's done you wrong. Even if there's no effect on them, it'll work on you for the better.
Take heart and take care;
BB Pertelotte x
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the neighbours sounds like a nasty peice personally i would have stuck the nut on him if he had done that to me maty sound drastic but he could have knocked and spoke to me in the first palce
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I agree with the guttering idea or at least turning the roof slope the other way around. What I cannot get my head around is the fellas objection to rain ( OH NOES!!) landing in his garden.
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It sounds to me as though this was the last straw for ww.I got the impression that she has had trouble before.
I don't know how to post a link ww but i found this forum and you might find some help on it.It's called 'Neighbours from hell in britain'.
I really feel for you and wish you the best of luck!
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As to killing my neighbour - I personally hope he drops dead from a heart attack or something else relating to his health! Do you think id say im going to kill my neighbour on the internet????? Give me a break for gods sake. Political correctness gone berzerk.
The man is a kn*bhead. End of. The roof on the coop is flat. I've even cut it today so it is compleatly level with the fence. We have tried to talk to him previously (issues have been going on for several years resulting in police attendence, surveyers letters etc etc). He has been told by the police twice to leave us alone. He has swore very badly at me over the fence, damaged expensive fencing that had been immeadiatly put up with a hammer (along our boundary line).
Yes katey - this is a (tiresome) long standing standing problem & thankyou for the NFIB. I have just registered.
As to guttering. Dont talk to me about guttering. He fiddled about with the front guttering on his house to cause all the water to overflow to ours and down the front of our house causing the bricks to crumble. All this was set off after we paid £4000 plus for a new fence in front garden & driveway. He wanted to keep the old privet hedge & didnt want a brand new scandanavian style fence. FOR FREE..................
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As to killing my neighbour - I personally hope he drops dead from a heart attack or something else relating to his health! Do you think id say im going to kill my neighbour on the internet????? Give me a break for gods sake. Political correctness gone berzerk.
No need to be stroppy with us wildwitchy. People were only trying to give you good advice based on the information you had given.
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I dont do stroppy, I call spade of spade. I'm very grateful for advice received. Good or otherwise. I thought the weedkiller & voodoo was quite appropriate for the evil toad in this nanny run state we live in.
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Did you discuss with your neighbour the removal of the hedge before you removed it ?
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yes & I paid for a surveyor too.
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yes & I paid for a surveyor too.
And did you're neighbour object at the time of planning ?
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The boundary is ours. Hedge WAS ours. I offered to cut it in half (well builders would with a struggle) even though it was dead in the middle, leaves on the outside (old privet hedge) so he could have some hedge to trim. He wanted whole hedge left & made it clear using foul language. I left the scene, consulted legal persons. Informed hedge would be removed compleatly via legal professionals & new fencing would be installed on boundary line.
Relationship breakdown compleatly - war began.
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Very sad. Shame there couldn't have been a compromise worked out. Once war is declared it can only be ended by a truce or total annihilation of the other side. A truce is usually preferable.
Have you managed to stopped the water from the chicken roof going into his garden now ? You said you'd cut the roof back so that it wasn't now overhanging his property.
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The police turned up again tonight (to give him his diary), went next door & me & hubby heard him ranting (yet again). I did cut the roof back alot more/ pinned it flat & I dont think he'd noticed I'd done it. He was shouting at the policeman in his garden about it.
Policeman came round again. I showed him the before & after photos & the cut off peice. Neighbour still isnt happy & wants more roof cut off at back???????
I dont know what else to do tbh. Still got to put wire in a few little gaps to stop virmin getting into run.
See photo of Aviery/chook run.
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Is that picture before or after you cut it back ?
Before is my guess as the one in the picture will still run water over the fence. Is it your fence?
Why is the run so hard up against the fence ?
What is on his side of the fence ?
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Just to try and shut him up, is it not possible to move the structure away from the fence a little bit?
We are lucky in that we have a large garden, and neighbours on one side only, so all our henhouses are at the other end of the garden.
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From that photo your coop does overlap the fence. No matter how petty the argument, you need to make sure it doesn't.
Your relationship with your neighbour seems to be one that would not be solved with reason. So another tactic is necessary.
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Can you not make the roof slope so that it all runs off onto your garden ?
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You cannot reason with him. He is totally irrational.
The fence is part of my coop (been built for years). Can't move structure away from fence. The roof has been like that for 3 half years previously. Never moaned before when tarpalin was on??????
Fence belongs to us. Our boundary. There is a empty space other side of fence. His shed is away from fence as it is a bit of a empty triange space (if you get what I mean).
I told the police I will cut it back yet again.
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Can you not make the roof slope so that it all runs off onto your garden ?
It is a flat roof, which slopes slightly towards the other side which i'm putting guttering on to catch the water & downpipe. I can't remember who said guttering.
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I know it would be a heck of a lot of work (and why should you do it anyway) but if it were me I'd move the entire chicken coup and run away from the fence even if I had to move that section of fence as well and buy a new panel to replace it.
Then I'd completely ignore the neighbour unless he came onto my property, was threatening or abusive.
I would go as far as carrying a small digital voice recorded - they are very small and can be switched on in a second. If the neighbour started up I would not reply unless forced to for my safety but would keep the voice recording as evidence of his comments/complaints/threats.
I would be careful not to take photos of him as this could lead to further fuss.
I'm not sure if you stated this somewhere in this thread but do you have legal advice/ support/protection through your household insurance. It's a relatively cheap annual sum and might come in useful.
A solicitors advice and letter may help put a stop to this even if the police seem to be supporting both sides.
I really do sympathise with you. My parents had a similar situation... not solved but no longer on-going.
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Learner, that is very boring advice. And (in my opinion) absolutely spot on. Even if you moved the shed a foot or two away from the boundary, it will show any observers (police, mediators, courts :blink:) that you have done everything you can to put things right with this neighbour.
If he keeps causing trouble after that, it will be very clear to everyone where the problem lies.
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Learner, that is very boring advice. And (in my opinion) absolutely spot on. Even if you moved the shed a foot or two away from the boundary, it will show any observers (police, mediators, courts :blink:) that you have done everything you can to put things right with this neighbour.
If he keeps causing trouble after that, it will be very clear to everyone where the problem lies.
"Me? Boring?? :tongue2: :ohmy: Yeah, I know :lol: :lol: You don't all have to agree at once though.
I would put a huge amount of effort into not noticing the neighbour too.
For the past year or more I have been in and out of my parents place several times a day, every day. I have not once looked in the neighbour's direction even when I've heard them an arms length away on the other side of the fence or in their kitchen which overlooks my parents side access. I simply do not acknowledge their existence.
My parents are rarely outside of their home without me next to them so I can curtail any questions / comments about “the neighbours”. Peace quiet and tranquillity reign.
The neighbours don't storm up my parents drive or swear at them on the door step or make threats and they have complete and utter privacy. Few people have anything to do with them in the immediate neighbourhood as they have fallen out with several households as well as my parents.
The status quo is restored. The stress diminished and life is peaceful. It's worth the ongoing effort. And... they have a "for sale" board up at last. ;)
I am quietly praying it won’t be out of the frying pan into the fire if/when new neighbours move in.
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Hi WW
unless there is a physical/practical problem, or you don't want to give in, I agree Learners advice seems the way to go, as Lindeggs says it would show it isn't you that's the cause of the problem, however smug (or guilty) he feels, it would be you who can hold your head up among the other neighbours (and officialdom)
A high fence or similar may help as well :)
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It will be very hard to resist feeling as if you'd like to clock him one or get your own back.
But, in my humble opinion, that is not the way to go about getting a peaceful, relaxing home back again.
I was furious with the couple next-door to my very elderly parents. But, despite the threats and the demands I was polite and reasonable. (I remain totally unforgiving).
I made very sure that the neighbours would have nothing to complain about on my account and that my parents also followed suit.
It really is worth the effort in the long run. You can show that you have done your very best to keep the peace. After that put it in the hands of others and take a big step back for your own peace of mind and well-being.
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Hi WW, firstly just to say that I think everyone appreciates that your life must be very difficult living next door to creatures like that! And we all sympathise. It really can take over your life (in-laws had similar problems) and become the thing which you think of most. In my opinion, you surely just want to enjoy having your chickens and get on with life without the fuss. Even though it is your boundary, I think there are no points to be scored by continuing any discussion about the water/rain issue as your neighbour is obviously at the end of their rope. Is it possible for you to move the coop like was suggested previously? My concern would be that they might then go on to harm the chickens if they can reach the roof so easily. Also, it would show some willing, even if the fault is all the neighbours. I am sure it must be stressful for them too. If you think they are there longterm, would you consider something like mediation so you could all live a bit more peacefully? All the best and take care
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I hate my neighbour. :ohmy: :mad:
Came home tonight after being on duty all day to find he had shoved a peice of wood under the roof of new coroline roofing on my chicken coop pen to stop (what he thinks) the rain from going into his garden off my roof.
I was livid. This caused the roof to bend upwards & make a large gap for any preditiors to get in to my girls. Good job I spotted it before nightfall.
I've already lost 4 to the fox!
I am so sick of this man & his behaviour & damaging our property. I ended up phoning the police. :(
From the photo you provided after cutting the roof back the neighbour was right and you were wrong.
If you do not realise this i would also doubt your other one sided whinges about the neighbour.
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Best thing to do is get some guttering as everyone said but that is not much fun. there are more satisfying ways to win wars. For example a friend of mine bought some land submitted plans and all the neighbours complained so he drew new plans re submitted and neighbours complaind. So he offered them all free land to extend there gardens still some neighbours complained £10,000 and 3.5 years later he gets fed up and tells all neighbours than if they complain about the next plans he will sell the land to gypsies as it would be worthless if he couldn't build on it.
After a good whinge and realising he could sell the land to whoever he wanted
no complaints
ww I'm not sugesting you sell your garden but be clever and you will win
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Sounds a nightmare WW, but if this guy is the sort he sounds like, he could be living for all this aggro and will force the fight on you if you let him. I think Learner is right to advise moving the coop and then cutting this man dead.
My neighbours one side are lovely and raving loonies the other side. The loonies are retired, never go anywhere, don't speak to the majority of the neighbours and live for making their own and everyone else's misery.
I had Mrs Loon round once shouting my car was parked in front of their house. It wasn't and I said so. Then I get a Community Support officer round asking if i could move my car as it was upsetting Mr & Mrs Loon. I walked out onto the drive where my car was and asked how he thought my car was anywhere near her property. He said' To be fair, there is a similar car in front of her house' I said 'To be fair Sunshine, both you and her have walked past my car on my drive to knock on my door to tell me my car is out on the road, legally parked in front of her house" :wacko: Exit CS officer and heard him giving Mrs Loon a right telling off next door ::)
I cut them dead now. They even took to doing their weekly shop at the same time as me on my day off. When I went out in my car, they literally followed in theirs and then followed me round T****s. Still cut them dead and they got the message after a couple of weeks ;)
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i like everyone else has read the original post and replys and i still stand by my reasoning the neighbours are jackarses and need a slap abit provocative i dont think so send them to live next door to me
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Thank you flitwickone for your reasoned judgement on hearing only one side of the story.
30 years in the police and seeing many tales like this tell me that this thread has run it's course.
I will close it.
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Thankyou to everyone for their replys on my neighbour issue post. I was in london all day yesterday & I've only just read all the replys. Thanks to everyone for the various useful ways to go which have been comforting (sometimes you feel like you're the only one). As Digger Dave says, it has run its course & time to close. I have all sympathies with the police who are in middle of these issues but the policeman dealing with ours has been a brilliant meadiator for both parties. :)
I never had chance to say thanks so this is it to everyone who contributed. Could a moderator please lock this comment for me as I don't want any more replys or high blood pressure caused.
Thankyou. x