Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: Patrick on January 14, 2007, 12:05
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Do some vegetables grow better if they're grown in a seed bed and transplanted or just sown where they are to grow?
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grow from seed and transplant the following
cabbages
broccoli
cauliflowers
brussel sprouts
leeks
sweetcorn
courgettes / marrows
tomatos
cucumbers
runner beans
french beans
squashes
lettuce
aubergines
broad beans
peppers
peas .........in plastic cups are sown by some .i cannot understand why
celery
kale
others may want to add to this list
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just a little thing that i do with my leeks
sow your leeks in a seed tray to start them off next month under cover then once they are 80-100mm high they get stunted and wont grow much bigger,so transplant them into a nice bit of ground to grow bigger,you dont have to be fussy in small bunches are fine,when they are as thick as a pencil plant them in there final position,by this time maybe may/june you will be digging your early spuds up and this is the ideal place for them.
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works for me i like a bit lime with mine shaun :wink: oh and a dusting of sulphate of potash , you may find all the green from the spuds has sucked it all up :lol:
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I grow my onions from seed in modules, 4-5 seeds per module. I don't thin them I just plant em straight in the ground when nice and strong, Space about 6" apart and they quite happily grow shoving each other apart as they need the room. You don't get massive onions this way, but we don't like big onions with little taste. Mine usually end up a smaller than tennis balls but bigger than golf balls with big taste.
Hope this helps :D
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works for me i like a bit lime with mine shaun :wink: oh and a dusting of sulphate of potash , you may find all the green from the spuds has sucked it all up :lol:
dont you find its easier to plant them when there a bit bigger though as mine get so big in the trays and thats it
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i plant mine by poking a hole in soft recently dug soil .fed and then i water them in .they are about the thicknes of a straw aboyt 6 inches apart , the roots spread out hoizontaly on leeks more than down :wink:
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yer a know :D
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dont you top n tail em ?
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yehhh but others may not know ya wassuck ,,,,, :D
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I grow my onions from seed in modules, 4-5 seeds per module. I don't thin them I just plant em straight in the ground when nice and strong, Space about 6" apart and they quite happily grow shoving each other apart as they need the room. You don't get massive onions this way, but we don't like big onions with little taste. Mine usually end up a smaller than tennis balls but bigger than golf balls with big taste.
Hope this helps :D
always thought you should transplant them when they have a couple of leaves into pots or another tray just to give them a bit of room and stop the roots from getting tangled,but like most things theres more than one way of doing things.
when do you plant them outside richy ?
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1st week in march for me ...
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is that for sets or seed sown onions ? or both
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leeks and sets
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I grow my onions from seed in modules, 4-5 seeds per module. I don't thin them I just plant em straight in the ground when nice and strong, Space about 6" apart and they quite happily grow shoving each other apart as they need the room.
Yep, I do this too richyrich - also with baby beet and carrot from March to late August.
Using modules or trays maximises outdoor growing space. Seedlings can wait in their modules until the previous crop is cleared, so that beds can be in continuous productive use. It encourages you to plant in succession - little and often. Plants are better protected from predators when young, and you can do your sowing in the warmth of the kitchen with the radio on :D
Parsnip, salsify, scorzonera seem to do better if sown direct, but I start off most veg in modules or trays now.
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when do you plant them outside richy ?
Usually about mid march I tend just to go by what the weathers like, how strong they look ( sometimes I give them a week feed of phostrogen ) and if I've got there beds ready.
I grow runner beans a similar way, but I use newspaper pots ( not loo rolls as they can be treated with fungicide etc) and pack them into bread trays, etc
One thing I have never got right is growing brassica's always seem to loose them to slugs or similar or I just forget to water them :oops:
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Thanks for the advice everyone.
As it's a completely bare plot with one side rotavated courtesy of the local council and one side double dug into twelve beds about 12ft x 5ft courtesy of me and my aching bones I have no problem with room for planting.
Generally though, is it better to sow and transplant even if space is not a problem?
All the books I've looked at seem to suggest brassicas are always transplanted but don't give any reason other than being able to utilise space for existing crops, of which I have none. Apart from some garlic which has come up and some broad beans which the magpies have had.
Do some vegetables really grow better for transplanting?
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i grow all y bassicas 1st in trays then i transplant them into pots to get a big root ball on them,the main reason being to try and get them growing to stop clubroot getting a hold 1st,also i find that if you plant them when they are realy small they end up getting a long stem and flopping over.
always plant them up to the 1st leaf whatever they are and realy firm them in.
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Thankyou Shaun.
Makes perfect sense.
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eaar ear :wink: