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alancas

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« on: August 04, 2012, 14:07 »
hi to all can anyone say if it is ok to dig manure(fresh)for next years beds thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 14:15 »
Yes, so long as you don't plant anything at the same time - the manure will be too fresh.

Keep an eye out for weeds.

Are you sure the manure is not contaminated with herbicide?
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days all attack me at once...

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 14:48 »
On a bare bed - yes, well-rotted or not. Layer it on to over-winter, then dig it in or leave it on top in spring.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 15:44 »
Just my opinion - manure is over-rated and goes back to a time when cottagers and farmers had too much of the blooming stuff so they spread it on the land to get rid of it with the side bonus that it fed the soil a bit.

Far better in my opinion to grow green manure crops and hoe them off a week or so before planting new crops.

Far easier to carry a pocket full of seeds to the allotment than a car load of muck which might be contaminated with herbicides and growth hormones and largely water anyway.

Just my twopenneth.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 16:09 »
thanks for input all opinions count

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 18:03 »
thanks for input all opinions count

Nicely put alan  :D
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2012, 19:18 »
thankyou sunshine'

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 09:09 »
we said kirpi I think horse manure is perhaps one of the worst things you can dig into a plot unless it is several years old . all those seeds from the various grasses and weeds that the horse ate are designed to with stand passing thro the horse ( including temperature) to be deposited into its own little pile of compost ready to grow ? ::) so unless your compost heap gets very very hot as with many commercial gardens or you can wait till all the seed has rotted down then I would leave it alone
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 15:41 »
I agree that you can get weed seeds germinating from manure, but the poo and straw give "fertility and heart" to the soil structure and, if you dig over in early spring, you will bury the weeds. Just my thoughts.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 15:54 »
Strangely enough I was reading a back issue of Country Smallholder earlier, and it was saying that manure is liquid gold to the smallholder, veg gardener etc.  More so when ou produce it yourselves through your own animals!

We get so used to all these commercial products, that the 'natural' stuff gets forgotten about.  Okay, I know lately people have been talking about all these amyno whatsits in manure and fertilizer, but don't ignore all the goodness that is in manure, after all, nature has been providing manure and fertilizers since animals began.   :)

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 16:05 »
Manure is brilliant stuff IMO...but!
If only we could be sure that what we were getting was Aminopyralid free, we might be more inclined to order some in.................
At the moment I don't think we can be, as there are still cases around of contaminated manure, from stables and farms :(

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if you dig over in early spring, you will bury the weeds.
that's a joke right :dry:   As fast as they've been buried or hoed off another lot has replaced them - an absolute nightmare - and that's without adding manure!


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