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Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 16, 2007, 21:18
the Jerusalem artichokes have flowers on so are they ready or do you wait for them to die back?.never tasted them before so i'm realy tempted to have a dig
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 16, 2007, 21:22
I just dug one up today. Lit  after flowering, as with pots, but it's just so late they are flowering this year. :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Jake on October 16, 2007, 21:49
mine don't even look like flowering. just like 9ft tall and green with slightly browning lower leaves.

I have only 3 but one is starting to look a bit like a tree :shock:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 16, 2007, 21:52
same here jake mine must be 9'  i remember someone on here saying they might reach 6',just got flowers the past week or so
Title: Re: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 16, 2007, 21:55
Quote from: "shaun"
the Jerusalem artichokes have flowers on so are they ready or do you wait for them to die back?.never tasted them before so i'm realy tempted to have a dig
Patience dear boy : http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?p=89606#89606  :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 16, 2007, 21:55
I would let them be in flower for a week or so, could also earth them up. :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Jake on October 16, 2007, 21:57
nothing looking like a flower last weekend.

I've got them far apart though and I only looked at one.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 16, 2007, 22:04
why would you earth them up gobs ?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 16, 2007, 22:15
Quote from: "shaun"
why would you earth them up ?
Bit late for that now.  Earthing up earlier in season will cause them to put out extra roots for more nutrient-gathering & stability in wind.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 16, 2007, 22:16
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields. :roll:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 16, 2007, 22:16
Quote from: "gobs"
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields.
SNAP !!
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 16, 2007, 22:20
new one on me about extra yields ive put  posts n wire around them though to stop them getting blown about
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 16, 2007, 22:25
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields.
SNAP !!


What do you mean, please, they just started budding. :roll:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 16, 2007, 22:57
Quote from: "gobs"
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields.
SNAP !!


What do you mean, please, they just started budding. :roll:
Snap meaning we posted the same thing.  (Snap is a card game)
Title: Re: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: agapanthus on October 16, 2007, 23:42
Quote from: "shaun"
the Jerusalem artichokes have flowers on so are they ready or do you wait for them to die back?.never tasted them before so i'm realy tempted to have a dig





Just be careful after eating them Shaun.....don't follow through!!!!!
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: muntjac on October 16, 2007, 23:43
dont worrry aggy he wears diapers :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: mkhenry on October 16, 2007, 23:48
Quote from: "shaun"
same here jake mine must be 9'  i remember someone on here saying they might reach 6',just got flowers the past week or so


Shaun The artichoke Fuseau only grows to about 6' the others up to 10' or more

Fuseau are less knobbly.  

If you treat them like potatoes,you cannot go far wrong,earth them up to increase yields once they are around a foot high.Cut back to around about a foot high once the leaves have gone brown.Then harvest as required. Save a few for planting next season. :wink: All the books I have read advise the same thing. 8)  :wink:

And yes you should earth up or cover the base with staw if you are leaving them in the ground between now and spring.This will help protect them against frost or even dare I say it Snow.Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: mkhenry on October 16, 2007, 23:51
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields.
SNAP !!


What do you mean, please, they just started budding. :roll:
Snap meaning we posted the same thing.  (Snap is a card game)


Which WG will only play with you if you have a stutter. :lol:  :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: agapanthus on October 17, 2007, 00:06
Quote from: "muntjac"
dont worrry aggy he wears diapers :wink:


Ah bless him ;)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: David. on October 17, 2007, 09:05
Planted my first this year. Rabbits dug up a chewed a couple of tubers, but they grew back. I grew them through horizontal Rylock fencing which I continually raised up vertical supports as they grew.

Now over 12 feet high and all in bloom.

Are the flowers any good for cutting (a bit small, but my flowers have finished) and will it affect tuber production?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Sadgit on October 17, 2007, 09:08
mine are about 12ft and no sign of a flower... got them tied to the apple tree to stop them falling over... :)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Aidy on October 17, 2007, 09:36
Cut mine back once the flowers started to appear, just waiting now for the plants to die off.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 17, 2007, 09:41
Quote from: "David."

Are the flowers any good for cutting (a bit small, but my flowers have finished) and will it affect tuber production?


They are good for cutting, just as any sunflower type, if you just take a few, shouldn't make any dif. :)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: milkman on October 17, 2007, 09:50
i would suspect that shaun's JAs are a little shorter than he thinks - they just look tall in comparison to him  :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 17, 2007, 09:55
Quote from: "mkhenry"
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
Quote from: "WG."
Quote from: "gobs"
It helps not to fall over and apparently helps to increase yields.
SNAP !!


What do you mean, please, they just started budding. :roll:
Snap meaning we posted the same thing.  (Snap is a card game)


Which WG will only play with you if you have a stutter. :lol:  :wink:


Oh, I see, foreign, so no understand all things, but no stutter. :D
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: fletch on October 17, 2007, 12:02
Where are the tubers available from? I don't seem to be able to find anyone who does them?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 17, 2007, 12:05
Quote from: "fletch"
Where are the tubers available from? I don't seem to be able to find anyone who does them?
Try popping a wanted post in the Swap Shop / Recycle forum & perhaps someone will oblige.  And don't forget to say, "please"!  :wink:  :lol:

Dobies have them too
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: paintedlady on October 17, 2007, 15:37
:roll:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 27, 2007, 17:19
well i only gone and dug one plant up today,theres were masses of them,not sure on the weight but I got over half a bucket of 1 plant.
brought em home and deep fried a handfull to give em a go,and they are gorgeous,the kids and the mrs also thought they were great.
will try johns soup next 8)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Sally A on October 27, 2007, 18:01
Will you be accompanying the X-Factor contestants this evening?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 27, 2007, 18:27
were going next door for there lads 18th I will let thee know what happens sally  :lol:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Sally A on October 27, 2007, 18:32
well I wouldn't "oops upside yer head" unless you knew the person infront and behind intimately
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: Sadgit on October 27, 2007, 19:24
Quote from: "Sally A"
well I wouldn't "oops upside yer head" unless you knew the person infront and behind intimately


*shakes head*

Well saturday night and I am on the puter because X-bloodyfactor is on and the missues loves it and I don't :)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: fletch on October 27, 2007, 20:44
I (very kindly) received some tubers from Agapanthus. I haven't had a chance to plant them yet - will I be ok to pot them up into decent sized pots until Spring?

Or do I need to get them in the ground now?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 27, 2007, 20:51
Quote from: "fletch"
I (very kindly) received some tubers from Agapanthus. I haven't had a chance to plant them yet - will I be ok to pot them up into decent sized pots until Spring?

Or do I need to get them in the ground now?
Deffo get them into soil.  A pot (each) is fine and plant into final position any time you want before, say, early March.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: fletch on October 27, 2007, 23:09
Thanks WG, just the answer I was looking for! I'll pot them all up (individually) tomorrow.

I have a perfect spot for them, it's just not ready yet.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: crowndale on October 28, 2007, 08:55
I'm hoping to grow the fuseau variety of these next year.  If I am going to save some of the tubers for the following year how owuld I do that?  leave them in the ground until needed or lift and store, and if storing whats the best way?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 28, 2007, 09:01
Leaving in the ground would be best.

But some people lift them and store as per potatoes but this is a desperate measure and affects the flavour badly. :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 28, 2007, 09:04
Quote from: "shaun"
well i only gone and dug one plant up today,theres were masses of them,not sure on the weight but I got over half a bucket of 1 plant.
brought em home and deep fried a handfull to give em a go,and they are gorgeous,the kids and the mrs also thought they were great.
will try johns soup next 8)


Well done, Shaun. :)  I've not deep fried them(don't deep fry much), that's on my list for next time. :)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 28, 2007, 09:08
you must try them deep fried gobs they are delish,
what they like roasted ?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 28, 2007, 09:10
Nice and sweet, but kids won,t eat them, so deep frying is a must try for me. :wink:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 28, 2007, 09:11
so to roast em would you par boil em 1st like a spud ?
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 28, 2007, 09:13
Yes, I do.
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: shaun on October 28, 2007, 09:15
rightyho then its liver n onions,mash,cabbage and roasted artichokes for tea  8)
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 28, 2007, 09:21
Sleep with the windows open tonight, won't you!
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: WG. on October 28, 2007, 09:22
Quote from: "crowndale"
I'm hoping to grow the fuseau variety of these next year.  If I am going to save some of the tubers for the following year how owuld I do that?  
They will almost certainly re-grow from volunteers
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: gobs on October 28, 2007, 09:57
Quote from: "WG."
Sleep with the windows open tonight, won't you!


Yeh, onion, cabbage JA might be a bit too much... :roll:  :roll:  :lol:
Title: Jerusalem artichokes
Post by: woodsmoke on October 28, 2007, 14:38
I usually cut them down to a few inches in November when they have pretty much died back.  Then dig up as required over winter (as long as ground diggable).  just been away a week, itching to get to my plot and it's a howling gale and rain.  Potatoes still not all dug.  Sometimes so difficult to scrounge time - the most precious commodity.