Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Poultry and Pets => The Hen House => Topic started by: karlooben on June 19, 2009, 06:16
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i noticed this morning one of the poos which i am assuming is from one of my 10 week old chicks looks like it may have blood in it , could this be from the food they are taking of the adults as my babies are with them full time during the day as they just wont stay in thier run :lol: cheeky beggars . please dont tell me its anything seruios can do without that :nowink:.
this one was outside their shed but the poos they do during the night all seem fine an all are running an flying everywhere as happy as larry.
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Morning Looby,
have a look at the poo pages - http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=17568.0
cheers, joyfullxxx
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Hi looby
I don't know much about chicks but blood in poo can be a sign of coxidiosis. Have they been on chick feed with a coxidiostat in ?
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It coxidiosis is common in young birds especially those that run or come into contact with older birds. I personally would treat your flock as coxidiosis can spread very quickly.
I would air on the side of of panic and get some Coxoid
(https://www.chicken-house.co.uk/acatalog/coxoid_112ml_300.jpg)
But you must be sure that you are not giving the chick medicated "Grower Pellets" as you must not combine the two. You will have to purchase a non medicated grower pellets. I could only find a organic version near me that was undedicated.
As you know karlooben they always look well till its nearly to late.
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the babes have been nicking the layers meal an pellets from the older girls but today i brought them growers pellets that had acs on the bag ?? is that good or bad i can get some of that stuff tomorw .
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i have the coxiod but now i need to find non medicated feed that could be fun as i dont have anywhere near me that sells it . and do i need to withdraw eggs when using this stuff .
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Try looking for an organic version of growers.
Egg withdrawel I do not know but "I would read the lable."
Your going to be correct then.
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a horse shop that i use sell organic pellets at £15,49 for 20 k bag :ohmy: :ohmy: i have only just stocked up on medicated feed today you have probably had this 1000 times before but why cant u mix the two .
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i have read on a site somewhere that its 28 day egg withdrawal :mad:
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...........but why cant u mix the two .
Because they will get a double dose of med's.
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex4616
coccidiosis, a potentially fatal and debilitating disease of chickens.
"http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2009/mar/nicarbazin"
Coccidiosis is caused by a small intestinal worm and can be fatal if left untreated.
http://www.flytesofancy.co.uk/chickenhouses/Coxoid_Anti-Coccidiosis_Treatment.html#aT673080
I know you get a income from your eggs. But if your chicks do have coccidiosis then this could (or could have) spread to the rest of your flock. You may not just be losing 28 days of production but if they die a longer period.
But you know me I always air on the side of caution.
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Coccidiosis is caused by a small intestinal worm and can be fatal if left untreated.
Not a worm Ruff it's a single celled parasite called Eimeria
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This is quite a good article about it.
Coccidiosis in Chickens (http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex4616/$file/663-35.pdf?OpenElement)
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Well then the t'internet is wong. I quoted my sauses. er sources.
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I quoted that one as well. :tongue2:
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You're right Ruff.
T'internet was wrong ::) You have to be careful what you believe ;)
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i will read up on the links u guys have posted and thankyou for them , i have just been round the run with a fine needle as they say an collected up all poos from adult an babies and not one of them had any signs of blood in them could i take that as a good sign or not ? i am not worried about losing money from the selling of the eggs { that only re buys thier feed anyway } i just dont want to make any of my customers ill and some have been warned and they are fine about not having any of my eggs for a month .
i klnow its silly but i could do without this as my old dog whos my rock has got to go in for major dental surgery very soon and i am already worrying about him and the large bill to follow { sorry just got out of debt :lol: :lol: tpyical animal to put me back in it } .
forgot to add while colecting poos one of the adult ones had weeny little wormy things in ?? i have some verm x and flubenvet left but i bet i cant mix those with the coxiod can i
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i have read all those links an i am now assuming they are on the start of tthis Coccidiosis so i am going to treat them all to be on the safe side the only thing thats worrying me is the cost of this organic feed as i have only just brought new sacks of what i normally use today and i cant get any organic stuff tell tomorw morning .
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Hi Looby, only treat the young ones, dont worry about the adults, they will have developed a natural immunity over time. Do the youngsters look healthy looby? If they have blood in their poo, and its cocci, they should look a bit "ruffled" with droopy wings. In the meantime, pop some ACV in their water.
I think just a small bag of chick crumb from the smallholders range should be fine, even if they are on growers it wont matter. Oh another important point dont give the youngsters any vitamin supplements for a while. :)
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Might be an idea to move them back into the other run Looby, you'll be able to keep a closer eye on their poops if not mixed up with the adults :)
Sarah :)
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Oh another important point dont give the youngsters any vitamin supplements for a while. :)
Why's that Foxy ?
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Oh another important point dont give the youngsters any vitamin supplements for a while. :)
Why's that Foxy ?
Basically if you give vitamins during treatment they will interfere with the action of coxoid, so I would until the course is finished and has been effective before giving any vitamins. :)
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Thanks Foxy :)
We learn something new every day !
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what would we do without each other :tongue2: thats why i love this site we all love to help each other .
i will block of thier little run even more tomorw morning but no doubt the little beggars wil still find a way out :lol: got to keep fingers crossed that they dont have this cocci.
believe me guys the one they dont have is droppy wings wow can they fly :lol: :lol:
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i have checked thier poo this morning that they done overnight in the smal shed and it all looks very normal no evidence of blood what so ever and the babies are all bright an eating well with no signs of ruffed up feathers or droopy wings , one poo outside in thier run looked a weeny bit red but when i looked closer at it it seemed as if it was more of thier in linings then blood .