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Title: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 25, 2020, 19:34
Some thoughts on panic buying which seems to be the fashion again - not just the supermarkets but from the seed merchants as well.

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Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Yorkie on September 26, 2020, 12:51
Difficult to know what to do really.  The seed catalogues for next year aren't out yet but you don't want to get left behind and have no stock next year.  On an individual level, you want to be able to continue growing the stuff you like. 

I wonder whether seed companies still have stock from this year left?
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 26, 2020, 16:41
Some very mixed reports from the seed merchants. Difficult to know where things will be next week, never mind next year.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: mumofstig on September 26, 2020, 16:47
The seed catalogues for next year aren't out yet but you don't want to get left behind and have no stock next year. 
I got my Kings 2021 brochure yesterday, don't suppose the others will be far behind......
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Yorkie on September 26, 2020, 17:02
The seed catalogues for next year aren't out yet but you don't want to get left behind and have no stock next year. 
I got my Kings 2021 brochure yesterday, don't suppose the others will be far behind ...

Actually, yes now you mention it, so did mine  :D.  But I was also thinking of the allotment association; we have to wait for our commercial supplier to send us their stock list from Mr F's and another company before we can send that out to our members for them to get reduced price seeds on certain seeds.  It was really late this year, so by the time we came to place our order, Mr F's had sold out of some varieties. 

I can at least chase Kings to ask if their 2021 commercial catalogue is out yet.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: rowlandwells on September 26, 2020, 17:22
what the hell's wrong with some of these people as soon as the mention of a possible lock down its of to the shops or supermarkets to buy everything of the shelves and for those who are working all day in all the services like the NHS or care homes and who rely on an evening shop find the shelves empty

what's the point of panic buying if we all shop using a bit of common sense there's enough i the shops  for all of us we went down our local supermarket today and people where buying toilet rolls like they where going out of fashion

just when we thought things where getting a bit better back it all comes because some irresponsible people can't or just don't want to follow the rules so consequently we all have to suffer and until everyone takes this virus seriously and abides by the rules then its never going to go away and we will see more people or love ones fall by the wayside
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: mrs bouquet on September 28, 2020, 11:51
One almost feels compelled to panic buy because so many others are.    If I don't get them now, will there be any left later, sort of feeling.   Also will I be able to actually go out and buy.   Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: snowdrops on September 28, 2020, 13:17
One almost feels compelled to panic buy because so many others are.    If I don't get them now, will there be any left later, sort of feeling.   Also will I be able to actually go out and buy.   Mrs Bouquet

I can understand that feeling Mrs B, but that’s not the same as attempting to buy all the toilet rolls,pasta,rice & everything on the shelves in every shop, take it home & try to sell it on eBay at inflated prices or throw the consumables in the bin when you realise you don’t know what to do with 36 loaves of bread or how to cook.
I usually keep a well stocked store cupboard (my children say I’m included in their plans for a zombie apocalypse for my cupboards,they’ll still need washing done & I can grow things! Lol). So I often find I have 48 toilet rolls & 2 or 3 of other things or 12 tins of beans etc. But I don’t see that as hoarding, I just buy when things are on special offer or to save me shopping so frequently. With all this actual panic buying it makes me have to only buy 1 or none as I don’t want to add to it. In the lockdown I did feel awful as I had my son & family living with us so we went from a 2 person household to a 6 & boy did I know it when the shopping needed doing, I just couldn’t believe how much stuff we got through.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: mumofstig on September 28, 2020, 13:41
Yes, I just went on-line, started putting my usual things in my basket and all the toilet rolls have gone again  :mad:  What is it with some people and toilet rolls  ::)
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 28, 2020, 14:32
Yes, I just went on-line, started putting my usual things in my basket and all the toilet rolls have gone again  :mad:  What is it with some people and toilet rolls  ::)
They'll need them when the food is going off and it's a choice between off sausages or kit-e-kat :)
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: GraciesGran on September 28, 2020, 17:33
Eldest son just phoned to say he has joined the panic buyers - he found potting compost at a really good price and bought 10 sacks.

In all seriousness of just annoys me, if you buy what you need everyone will be ok. The one thing there is a serious shortage of is common sense.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Growster... on September 29, 2020, 06:51
Just a little aside...

It's the year 2035, and William Growster is using the last toilet roll bought by his great-grandfather in 2020...

(The names have been changed to avoid identity)...
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 29, 2020, 09:09
Just a little aside...

It's the year 2035, and William Growster is using the last toilet roll bought by his great-grandfather in 2020...

(The names have been changed to avoid identity)...
I've just written my will..
To my grandchildren I leave our store of baked beans, the 18 tonnes of pasta and 14 tonnes of flour.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Grumpy gardener on September 29, 2020, 21:07
My allotment association catalogue came from King's at beginning of September. I always get mine before end of september / beginning of October to guarantee that I can get the varieties that our family likes.
Our order for eight of us went in to Kings over the weekend.
I don't call that panic buying.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 29, 2020, 23:52
My allotment association catalogue came from King's at beginning of September. I always get mine before end of september / beginning of October to guarantee that I can get the varieties that our family likes.
Our order for eight of us went in to Kings over the weekend.
I don't call that panic buying.
Ordering 10 years supply is what I mentioned not placing a normal order in good time to ensure varietal choice.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: celeriac on September 30, 2020, 07:18
FWIW here are my two recommendations:

There will always be shortages of one thing or another at times and part of me wants to just buy normally so as not to fuel the panic but the other part doesn't want to be the sucker that ends up with nothing, so a couple of years ago a got a big plastic box, put it in the garage and slowly filled it with tins and dried food that I knew I could make meals from and some evaporated milk. I've got some meals in tins such as soups, others I can make such as chickpeas, rice, spinach and tinned tomatoes I know I can add a few spices and make a curry. I have to confess though, I didn't prepare for the bogroll shortage!

As for seeds, last year when the shops went empty I got a trial 6 month subscription to one of the garden magazines that comes with seeds, I now have enough seeds to last me the decade! Bit short on the high value seeds mind, such as beans and peans so this year I'm stopping picking one of my bean plants early so that I can store a few seeds.

Stay safe x
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: New shoot on September 30, 2020, 12:39
There are no shortages at all, but if everyone decides to suddenly buy twice or three times their usual amount, the supply chain gets derailed.  It is simple as that.

In the spring the panic buying went on for weeks and was totally pointless.  As John says, huge amounts ended up in the bin and shop workers everywhere were shouted at and treated badly by rude, stupid and selfish people who need to take a good look at themselves and decide whether they want to be that person again.  Lots of other more vulnerable people and busy people like NHS staff did go short and were upset and worried.  Sorry to sound off, but that's the truth.

Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Plot 1 Problems on September 30, 2020, 20:13
Mercifully, the idiots have already stopped excessive purchasing here it seems.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: snowdrops on September 30, 2020, 21:25
Asda today, toilet roll aisle totally empty  :wacko:
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Plot 1 Problems on September 30, 2020, 23:24
Asda today, toilet roll aisle totally empty  :wacko:

I was told on Sunday that Asda actually have a supplier issue at the moment rather than being swamped by the loo roll vultures. Our local store has an alternative brand in as of today as a stop gap.
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on September 30, 2020, 23:31
What is annoying is the idiots buying up gluten free - my grandson is gluten intolerant and cannot take ordinary pasta etc. His mum keeps a fair level of stock in now after the first panic buying in March but it was tricky feeding him then.
On loo rolls, my daughter picked up 4 off 18 roll packs at Farmfoods. More than she wanted but at £10 for 4 - a no brainer.. I told her, stick them on Ebay at a fiver a roll  :ohmy: :D :ohmy:
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: GraciesGran on October 01, 2020, 07:00
Oops, text from step grandson, he saw potting compost at a bargain price and bought me 10 bags.  It's a thank you for some work I did in the garden of his new house.   
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: basketcase on October 01, 2020, 10:46
What is annoying is the idiots buying up gluten free - my grandson is gluten intolerant and cannot take ordinary pasta etc. His mum keeps a fair level of stock in now after the first panic buying in March but it was tricky feeding him then.

I was annoyed by the same thing.  I'm intolerant of wheat, although I can eat it at a pinch if I don't mind suffering pain in anything that can become inflamed (joints, sinuses, stomach - you name it!)  Anyway, I can eat oats and rye. 

My daughter, OTOH, suffers quite seriously from gluten intolerance and doesn't have unlimited storage space.  It was really difficult for her to feed herself.  Fortunately, she was with her father when lock down started and I was well-stocked, so able to drop off Red Cross packages at the door.

I think people in our situations aren't panic buying - it's stocking up on essentials.  I get really annoyed by those who think "my usual flour/cakes/biscuits are out of stock.  I know, I'll get GF".  WHY?!   :mad:  Let's face it, most of us who get ill would dearly love to buy the cheaper, nicer-tasting stuff if they could!   :wacko:
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: John on October 01, 2020, 11:28
I'm sure some people think 'gluten free' is a healthier option or organic rather than a necessity for some people. Happily for me we're not intolerant but the effects on my grandson are quite bad.

Changing subject..

Due to panic buying I am now limiting purchases of my books to 3 copies of each title only per order. :)
(Oh well, you have to try!)
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: wighty on October 01, 2020, 21:08
Fortunately I am only Lactose intolerant and milk has obviously not been a problem.  I feel really sorry for those that are intolerant of substances that were in demand.  I have been having some problems with medication as a  lot contain lactose as a 'bulking' agent.  I had an argument at the Pharmacy when I refused a pack of  tablets and they said I had taken them away from the Pharmacy and so they couldn't take them back.  I pointed out that they had only served me on the street and I hadn't moved and had checked there and then.  They backed down and changed them. 
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: basketcase on October 02, 2020, 16:54
Due to panic buying I am now limiting purchases of my books to 3 copies of each title only per order. :)
(Oh well, you have to try!)

 :lol: :nowink:
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: Growster... on October 02, 2020, 17:58
A spate of panic buying in Waitrose has meant that there are only ten packs of Roquefort and nine of Manchego cheese on the shelves.

This has to stop, and store detectives have been told to arrest anyone paying for the £150.00 Chateau De Chastellain-Kobblers, 1998, with a Diamond encrusted Platinum 'Super-Extra-rich' credit card!

The Car-park attendant has also been ordered to clamp any car worth over £145,000.

...meanwhile, back at 'The Turrets', a timid Growster checks the sell-by date on the soup he bought with old money...
Title: Re: Panic Buying
Post by: GraciesGran on October 03, 2020, 07:02
Growster my hero.  Thank you for making me smile!