Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => General Gardening => Topic started by: Chiswickian on December 13, 2009, 11:54
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I am going to take out my Rose Mme. Alfred Carriere this winter. it's just too big for the space - I made a classic mistake of choosing a plant I love and trying to beat it into submission. I have learnt my lesson.
I fancy another rose but is that wise? The current rose suffers dreadfully from blackspot and mildew. I suspect the soil is too thin - the beds are slightly raised but I suspect builder's rubble is under the first foot! What other plants would anyone suggest - I already have akebia there.
TIA
Ian
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Clematis and or honeysuckle. :)
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Climbing hydrangea (hydrangea petiolaris?) will grow there, also Clematis "Nelly Moser" and also a blackberry. Don't replace with another rose as it will get rose soil sickness and not thrive.
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Winter flowering jasmine
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Winter flowering jasmine
I`m inclined to agree with Lesley, though Jasmine isn`t a climber, it would do the job quite well. :D
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Winter flowering jasmine
I`m inclined to agree with Lesley, though Jasmine isn`t a climber, it would do the job quite well. :D
Careful David you are agreeing with me again people will talk :blush: :ohmy: :D :tongue2:
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I would go with the climbing Hydrangea too,
Nice white flowers to lighten up a north wall.
Probably not a clematis most seem to like cool roots but warm tops so may not be the best for a north fence + some get pretty invasive like "montana" which seems to thrive anywhere
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thanks all!! I'm looking for something spectacular but the fence is a little shaky. I don't want a beast of a plant.
Ian
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You could always put a very vigorous plant in a big container pot - it would go some way towards holding it back a little.
I have a passionflower in a large pot which has covered the back wall, and it's managed to find it's way into the gardens of my neighbours gardens on both sides. Flowers & fruits all summer long. It does try & root itself in other pots, so you have to keep on top of it, but I only cut it back once a year to keep it under control.
A neighbour about 5 houses along from me has a Montana which seems to range across a dozen or more gardens. It's very very pretty - relatively short flowering period - but it's completely covered in scented flowers in Spring.
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Forgot to say - passionflower shares the same pot as a climbing rose - variety I've got is Rambling Rector which also does very well - it's been in about 5 years, and it's 12ft tall and goes across width of back wall.
So if you really want a rose and you think your soil is the problem, it will grow in a container.
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thanks all!! I'm looking for something spectacular but the fence is a little shaky. I don't want a beast of a plant.
Ian
That`s all the more reason to go with Jasmine, as it`s a wall shrub it grows AGAINST the fence And not ON it. :lol:
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My choices of Clematis (obviously not Montana, but there are so many more to choose from...) and or Honeysuckle would be no good then as they require a sturdy structure to grow up. I would add though, that my reason for suggesting those is that I grow these together here in a north easterly facing position with great success :) whilst my climbing Hydrangeas (same aspect) are poor :(.
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we have a honeysuckle on a north facing fence..... its not done well at all, but i think thats because it didnt get enough water and is in total shade 100% of the time until it grows big enough to get some sun.....
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we have a honeysuckle on a north facing fence..... its not done well at all, but i think thats because it didnt get enough water and is in total shade 100% of the time until it grows big enough to get some sun.....
Honeysuckle is a woodland plant, so the shade shouldn`t be a problem.
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well yeah we actually got it because it said it was ok with partial shade but we wondered if full shade whilst still growing was causing the problem - it definitely didnt get enough water though as it is under a tree beside a fence and the watering can forgot to visit.....
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It would need watering in the first year. After that it should be able to fend for itself.
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How about Garyia Eliptica which grows long catkins and can be quite eye-catching?
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euonymus fortunei 'Emerald n Gold' isn't strictly a climber but when planted against a wall/fence will grow up it to about 4-5ft.I love it although I normaly hate variegated plants .Its as tough as old boots and I have moved one plant 4 times and it still won't die.
For year round interest I would plant a combination of euonymus and jasmine.