Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Poultry and Pets => Pets without Feathers => Topic started by: RIKJD89 on October 06, 2009, 19:29
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Just wondering if anybody has any tips?
Iv just taken in a 6month old Staff off a friend who had given up with the the dog due to being, well lazy if im honest! Anyway he said he had tried rubbing its nose in the mess and that kind of thing... I personally didnt have to do this while training my dog as he just picked it up naturally so im stuck as to which way to go about things.
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Rubbing his nose in it?
Eek!
Kindness! That's all dogs need.
Give him encouragement and it'll be fine.
Dogs want to please their owner, so show him you're pleased when he does it outside and not in....
....... Won't take long......
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Keep taking him outside , especially after sleeping , plenty of praise. Good luck :)
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my neighbours must have thought we were mad as when we have had all four of our Boxer puppies we went outside after meals and said 'hurry up'' and rewarded when they did what we wanted them to do. 'There's a cat in the garden' did for when we wanted them to do a wee in the garden at lunch time, even though there wasn't. Language association with an 'action' is a very good tool with dogs.
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Indoor kennel ;)
They don't like to mess in their own bed so an indoor kennel for night time and if you're going out during the day. They soon get used to it, my puppies (5 + 6 months) put themselves to bed now.
Take him out every time he wakes and immediately after food. Lots of praise when he performs, he'll soon get the hang of it :)
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Ye she had a cage when we got her but id prefer not to use one as i dont with my other dog, but ill try an praise her everytime and just hope for the best! as for let her out when she wakes i delayed for about thirty seconds an she peed on the stairs lol but im confident ptience and praise is the key as you guys are all saying.
Thenks for the advice.
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If she's used to a cage then you're halfway there.
Don't use it to punish her, then she'll just see it as "her" space.
I used to think they were cruel until I saw how mine viewed theirs.
I only use them when they are puppies. Mine have been clean for a couple of months now :)
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I agree; patience and praise are key issues.
Keep to a regular time table for feeds and take outside, preferably to the same spot, after feeds and sleeping.Then lots of praise on performance.
Always worked for me. Enjoy your pup, I'm very envious!
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Having got a collie that was a chewer we decided when we got the next one that she would have a cage to begin with. Gem slept in it and went in it when we were out, and she never once had an accident :)
It got to the stage where if we fetched them in she would lie in her cage with the door open, she was happy it was her space :D
Pip came along and I did the same with her to begin with and again we've never had a problem :D
I would definitely recommend using one and agree 100% with Rube :)
Sarah :) (owned by 5 dogs :blush: :lol: )
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I also think the cages are a good idea, if its used for their space and not punishment its just like another bed to them
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ye it does become a safe haven for them but i didnt have it set up last night and she slept downstairs with the other dog fine apart from one little accident, but on the plus side she did bark and scratch at the living room door at the time i just didn realise until too late as i was dead to the world lol
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one accident isn't too bad. Just clear it up without a fuss and praise good behaviour :)
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ye im takin that approach at the mmoment but have just heard off somebody else that the former owner took a very heavy handed approach to the dog and didnt give any time towards any other aspect to traing or even just walking so i think with a bit of tlc shell come on leaps and bounds
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Encouragement, praise, reward..
Small treats as part of the daily food allowance used as positive reinforcement for good behaviour, which eventually can be replaced by verbal praise and patting/stroking.
Shouting at or telling a dog off(usually after the event) causes confusion and distrust, the dog may not remember what it has done, and the owner appears erratic and untrustworthy in the dogs eyes, which leads to fear and negative behaviours in the dog.
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Have to agree with having a cage, after having gone through several settees, carpets, shoes infact just about anything and everything with my previous dogs. When we got olliepops the Neapolitan we decided that would be our first purchase - the largest size available. Best thing we ever did, no chewing, no mess oozing through your toes when you come downstairs half asleep and then when they are bigger it then becomes a home for broody chickens - or at least those that you don't want to be broody :D
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As a breeder and exhibitor and judge of this breed for many years take it from me they are not hard to house train at all, they respond well to routine and once she is settled and learns to trust you and bonds with you then you will soon crack the problem. The advise so far is all spot on..........NEVER rub a dogs nose in anything it is cruel and counter productive and it sound like this poor dog is better away from your friend. Regular short walks also helps in the training and bonding process. Also make sure she is immunised too if in doubt re do the jabs it won't hurt, Parvo Virus is prevalent in most areas of this country and it is a horrible disease along with all the other canine diseases out there. Good luck!
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One mistake I made when I was house training our dog was cleaning any mess up with the wrong cleaning stuff. I was using dettol so the house didn't smell of dog wee, but apparently this makes them just want to re-mark their scent in the same spot.
I was advised to use a weak solution of bio washing powder which stopped her peeing over the same places again.
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got it in one there Janet the bio breaks down the smell namely the salt crystals in the urine.
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ye shes picked up the house training now with just a couple of accidents now and again so it does look like the previous owner just couldn be bothered with the dog!
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I usually say the w0rd 'wee's' when they d0 0ne 0utside (everytime) and, eventually, I can say it ind00rs and they all rush f0r the d00r t d0 it 0utside...... takes a little while but i've always taught my d0gs that way.
T0tally agree with d0g crates....... my 2 shih tzu's sleep in a massive 0ne under the stairs..... it's funny seeing them t0ddle 0ff when I ann0unce 'bedtime'.........
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lovely pic!
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Everything about taking them outside regularly and praising them to perform is good.
One of mine is a escue who used to be beaten when he messed inside. He was left from 8 in the morning until quite late in the evening tied in the kitchen.
He has apoplexy when he gets loose and cannot make it to the door.
Does not happen often but when it does it is just cleaned up with a bit of Bio powder or soda in water and no fuss made. Doesnt half meky you feel queasy first thing in a morning though.
We trained the other dog, who was a puppy when we got her and she learned very quickly. She is a bright dog though and wants to please.
Frequesnt outside visits with wee as a command, always after waking and food. She now goes to the door and asks with a whine.
You will get there with yours I am sure.
What an idiot to rub a dogs nose in the mess. Obviously time will have passed. The only way to control behaviours in dogs are at the time they happen.
Some people have no idea at all. Makes me angry >:(
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It does grate on your nerves when yopu find out they have beat the dog for making a mistake when he cant be bothered to walk the poor animal so he had to put up with 10 minutes off my ranting at him when i payed for the dog in which he at least admitted he had underestimated how much is involved in owning a dog so at least he has learnt and wqont put another dog through what she went through anytime soon
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Idiots. Then they wonder why the dog turns on them :mad:
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Call it a crate!! Not a cage lol! Sounds so cruel!
Our Labrador puppy (3 months) is crate trained - we don't lock him in he just know's it's his space, and as previous posts have mentioned, they don't mess in their areas :-) We take Jack out every hour when we're at home, although he is learning to "hold it" now. It's just a lot of perseverence, and when they look like they're sniffing, straight into the garden til they've performed ;-)
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well i went to pick up the cage off the previous owner and he said she did her business in the cage now cos he had trained to do this!! So i said well would you pi*s in the bed you sleep in?? So i left the cage behind out of principle it goes to show how eager the dog was to impress him and be loved that it slept next to its own waste for him. :(
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I bought a 'crate' from ebay for my dog for £11.00. It's not hugely sturdy, but it's only for the back of my car, cos my little fellow likes to jump over the seats and help me drive ::)
We bought the original crate when he was a pup for house training. It's sad that some people still suggest pushing a dogs nose in it's poo :( It teaches them nothing, it's as disgusting to them as it is to us... :mad: :wacko:
I assume this friend, is no longer friend... ;)
He's not a breeder is he?
Sound's like you are doing great with her :)
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well hes still a friend but under condition he dosnt get another dog as iv known him all my life and thankfully no he isn a breeder as i would have been ringin the rspca on him