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Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: fatbelly on November 10, 2007, 18:22

Title: Waste food composter
Post by: fatbelly on November 10, 2007, 18:22
Hi,
I obviously compost all of my uncooked kitchen waste and garden cuttings etc.

But I just send my cooked food waste to landfill via the dustbin men.
Is there any way of composting my cooked food waste that is safe and won't attract rats and other vermin.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: WG. on November 10, 2007, 18:24
A wormery (for the veggie stuff).  Or compost it too.

You can also bury direct in the soil
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: mushroom on November 10, 2007, 19:48
is it not the done thing to compost cooked veg?
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: piskieinboots on November 10, 2007, 19:52
Quote from: "mushroom"
is it not the done thing to compost cooked veg?

nope
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: mushroom on November 10, 2007, 21:40
Quote from: "piskieinboots"
Quote from: "mushroom"
is it not the done thing to compost cooked veg?

nope


Oops!  :oops:

Why?
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 21:49
rats rats n more rats wil just love ur takeaways  :wink:
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: mushroom on November 10, 2007, 22:55
Quote from: "muntjac"
rats rats n more rats wil just love ur takeaways  :wink:


I can understand the logic regarding meat (but we are talking veg here, veg and only veg) but why would they care whether it's cooked or not? I thought rodents liked chewing things.

So, I boil some carrots and it's too much, I have to chuck the remainder in the regular rubbish? But fresh carrot tops are OK?

I don't see the logic!
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: muntjac on November 10, 2007, 22:56
no you can compost cooked veggies  ,not meat products mushy  :wink:
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: WG. on November 10, 2007, 22:57
Quote from: "WG."
A wormery (for the veggie stuff).  Or compost it too.

You can also bury direct in the soil
 :roll:
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: mushroom on November 10, 2007, 22:58
Whew!  :shock:  :D
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: loubylou29 on November 11, 2007, 06:52
Hang on a min.... I CAN compost cooked veg???? I never have because I thought it attracted rodents. I assumed it was to do with the smell or the fact it would rot differently when cooked. I always chuck it out... so can I compost it then??
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: mushroom on November 11, 2007, 09:58
Quote from: "loubylou29"
Hang on a min.... I CAN compost cooked veg???? I never have because I thought it attracted rodents. I assumed it was to do with the smell or the fact it would rot differently when cooked. I always chuck it out... so can I compost it then??


Apparently so!  8)
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: muntjac on November 11, 2007, 10:06
what my dogs dont eat i chuck in the compost ,just dont put anything like pizza n meat n such .

 mind my dogs will eat anything as wil cat ,,,,,,, tomato sauce is cats fav ..... n pickled onions for one dog , n anything with mustard or brown sauce for tother   :roll:

 but when i say you can compost it folks ,mix it in .and keep ya pest control up to top marks  :wink:
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: SnooziSuzi on November 11, 2007, 10:06
I do put cooked veg in (on the few occasions when there's enough left to put on the composter) and it isn't causing me any problems.

I saw a thing in one of my mags for a Green Cone (http://www.greencone.com/home.asp?lang=3) (click for link) and it's for ALL household food - including fish and meat.

THey're a bit pricey and I don't know if they really work, but if that's what you want to do to prevent landfill use then maybe you could shop around for one.

HTH,
Su  :D
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: Annie on November 11, 2007, 12:50
You could also think about a food digester thing that fits to the sink most councils do money off vouchers for them as well.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: GrannieAnnie on November 11, 2007, 12:53
As I've said before, what we don't eat the dog eats, what the dog don't eat veggie wise the chooks eat.  The last time I made my rice wine, once I'd taken the must off, I rinsed, then cooked the rice and the chooks loved it.  I gave it to them over a couple of days.  They had the sultanas too!
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: Lynne on November 12, 2007, 15:59
I've always put left over cooked veg in my wormery and it's fine.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: Rob the rake on November 16, 2007, 08:41
Take out a 6" deep trench where next years beans or peas are going and half-fill the bottom with kitchen waste. Cover with soil as you work along the trench(so as not to attract vermin).
When you're finished, you have a planting zone for leguminous crops which is moisture retentive and nutrient rich. Digging in uncomposted waste like this upsets the nitrogen balance for a while, but this does not affect peas and beans, as they make their own nitrogen.

When you're ready to sow, the rotting of the waste will have created a shallow depression along the length of the trench. This depression makes it easier to get that all-important water to the roots in dry spells.

Rob. :D
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: WG. on November 16, 2007, 10:45
An excellent point well made, Rob.  I mentioned direct burial above and indeed I used to do exactly what you describe (before I started worm composting) and it works great.

No need to take out the whole trench at the same time either, simply mark out where it is going and it pretty much creates itself as you backfill over the part you are burying.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: Sally A on November 16, 2007, 10:48
Not so great in reality, one of my dogs goes and digs up the rotting stuff from the neighbours trench, resulting in BAD wind, gyppy tum, and getting me up in the night.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: Rob the rake on November 17, 2007, 12:02
Lovely creatures,dogs. My Westies are partial to carrots and nick them from the trug the minute my back's turned. I find the remains under the spud foliage at lifting time,which is where they take them for a scoff.
Tillie likes them much better than Toby,apparently,and if she catches him eating one she'll take it off him and growl until he goes away. Poor blighter's more hen-pecked than I am.
She likes kelp even better, fresh or dried,doesn't matter. The little swine digs it out faster than I can dig it in!
You've got to love 'em though :D

Rob.
Title: Waste food composter
Post by: WG. on November 17, 2007, 12:06
Quote from: "Sally A"
Not so great in reality, one of my dogs goes and digs up the rotting stuff from the neighbours trench, resulting in BAD wind, gyppy tum, and getting me up in the night.
No dogs around here so don't have that problem.  Easily sorted with a bit of net though.