Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....

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Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« on: August 28, 2013, 16:49 »
and no spuds.  What am I doing wrong please?  Seem to recall last year was the same.  They were fed and watered.  I have done them this way before and I have had lovely crops.  This year I planted a mix of tubers including some early varieties like International Kidney (okay, I know its not called that unless you are on a channel island, but its the same variety - just can't think of the actual name at the moment!!)

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 16:53 »
What did you feed them with? Too much nitrogen causes lush leaf growth and they largely forget all about producing tubers.

International Kidney is the variety which Jersey is famous for growing, but they can only be called Jersey Royals if they are actually grown on the island.
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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 16:59 »
Thanks JayG.  I was sort of right then!  I fed them with nitrogen granules mixed into the compost.  Guess I fed them too much.  Will remember for next year.  Thanks again.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 17:07 »
not too much just with the wrong thing  - this old thread may help
http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=50756.msg601257#msg601257

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 02:36 »
And too much water will also encourage a lot of leafing and no spuds. Potatoes are better growing on the dry side than wet.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 08:27 »
I grew all my spuds in containers this year. Yesterday, I harvested 20+ lbs of desiree from 8 x 25L tubs.

I put some BF&B in with the compost when i planted them and watered them well, once a week, and had a great crop.

Next year i shall do an experiment and put 50% in tubs again and the other 50% in the ground and compare the yields.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 09:47 »
I grow my spuds in raised beds. Really good mixture of soil and compost. This year, I took off the top 6" and saved it in old compost sacks. The beds were given a good sprinkling of Growmore and dug well in 2 weeks before planting. As the haulms grew, I kept heaping up around them with the soil I saved in bags. I had also given this soil the growmore treatment. The only spuds I've dug up so far are Kestrel. They have thrown lots of foliage. The crop wasn't bad, but I've had better. Smaller spuds than I have had in the past even after leaving in 20+ weeks. All my maincrop got the same treatment and have all thrown massess of foliage. It remains to be seen what the crops are like. I suspect from what I've read on here that I've over-egged it with the growmore by using the  "More fertiliser has to give bigger crops" mentallity.

Yes, I do rotate the beds with other stuff.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 10:06 »
I grew 10 bags of potatoes this year - I had 6 in the back garden and 4 on the lottie and they were all planted in the same way, fed the same way and watered the same way.
 All cropped well apart from 2 bags of PFA in the garden where . Got a total of 5 tiny tubers from 10 seed potatoes ??? Loads of leafy growth though ???

No idea why!

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 10:38 »
Mine in tubs were fairly rubbish wont bother next year as they do so much better in the ground....... Well i say that all did well in the ground apart from red duke of yorks which were rubbish all round  ::)

To be honest cost more in compost than we harvested so next year its in the ground direct and get on with it.


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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 10:52 »
I think you have to balance the fact that potatoes need plenty of food to produce a lot of top growth in a relatively short space of time, with the problem that if they are too well fed, and for too long, especially with nitrogen, they won't feel the need to produce the food storage organs to start next year's crop.

Harder to get right in the relatively small volume of soil in a container, but I'm sure RookieJim's success is because he got the balance about right - a slow release balanced feed to get them off to a good start, then just regular watering.

Ian@JBA (in Mum's quoted thread) knows a thing or two about growing spuds, so using a specialist potato feed will no doubt work even better, but again, not too much of it or for too long.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2013, 13:18 »
So basically, they need a good kickstart and then very little after that?

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2013, 16:43 »
My mum grows fab spuds and that's what she does, Reyt Tayty. Her potatoes just get manure at the start of the season and that's it, no extra watering, no extra feed, and she gets masses of lovely spuds.

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Re: Spuds in tubs - all leafy growth....
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2013, 16:46 »
I grew 10 bags of potatoes this year - I had 6 in the back garden and 4 on the lottie and they were all planted in the same way, fed the same way and watered the same way.
 All cropped well apart from 2 bags of PFA in the garden where . Got a total of 5 tiny tubers from 10 seed potatoes ??? Loads of leafy growth though ???

No idea why!

Oh incidently I got a huge crop of PFA from 4 of the other tubs! :D The other 4 had Belle de Fontaney in and they produced a big crop too - just so you know it wasn't the actual variety or seed potato that was the problem! ;)



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