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Chatting => Frugal Living => Topic started by: poppy on January 29, 2007, 23:41

Title: Seaweed
Post by: poppy on January 29, 2007, 23:41
Hello, looking for a bit of advice...
I live close to the coast, and was thinking about collecting some seaweed to use as an organic compost for my allotment. Does anyone know if it would prove worthwhile, and if I put it on now will my allotment be ready to plant on in the spring or am I too late? :D
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on January 29, 2007, 23:48
if you can get it  do so ,. spread it on the surface as you plant things you can dig it in and sow on top of it .welcome to the gang poppy  we seem to be attrcting more new members every day  :D
Title: Seaweed
Post by: poppy on January 29, 2007, 23:53
Thanks, for your quick reply, do you think I need to rinse it first to get the salt off?  :roll:
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on January 29, 2007, 23:54
no if you live near the coast as i do u already got plenty salt on ya plot , besides saves ya adding more when ya cook ya taties  :wink:
Title: Seaweed
Post by: poppy on January 29, 2007, 23:55
Good point.  :wink:
Title: Seaweed
Post by: beansticks on February 02, 2007, 18:59
Welcome poppy,you are lucky to have such an asset on your doorstep
Title: Seaweed
Post by: poppy on February 02, 2007, 21:40
cheers beansticks.
Do you know how to make a seaweed liquid fertilizer?
Going seaweed crazy now! :lol:
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on February 02, 2007, 21:42
put it in a barrel or bucket with a lid cut it up roughly ,then pour hot water on it . leave to cook for a month then strain and bottle ,dont shut the lid down fully as it ferments
Title: Seaweed
Post by: JayBee on February 25, 2007, 18:09
I get seaweed all year round from the coast here.

I spread mine out in the never-ending rain for a week to wash the salt out naturally. Worms hate salt as much as slugs do.

Some of the seaweed is then mixed into the soil, some goes into the compost heap and the rest is used as mulch.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: little sweetpeas on February 26, 2007, 16:17
Two weeks ago we went to the seaside and the children collected two black binliners full of seaweed, (another parent said it would be good for the plot) haven't done anything with it, do you think it will still be ok?

Can I just dig it into the soil?
Title: Seaweed
Post by: JayBee on February 26, 2007, 16:22
Two weeks. Fine, put it in. Is it still green? I never pick up brown or black seaweed that has been lying at high tide for weeks.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: little sweetpeas on February 26, 2007, 16:26
It is more or less black, there's another race there this weekend or next so I could get some more.

Should I only get green and why?
Title: Seaweed
Post by: JayBee on February 28, 2007, 14:30
Black seaweed is dead seaweed. I'd rather have nutrient rich green seaweed.

When I get my seaweed I wait for the tide to go out and then scrape it off the rocks. Loose seaweed at the high-tide mark has been uprooted and has probably been dead for weeks, if not months. When a plant dies it no longer photosynthesises and produces the nutrients you need for your soil.

You can eat any seaweed you find in the sea. Would you eat the black stuff?
Title: Seaweed
Post by: little sweetpeas on February 28, 2007, 14:42
I'll get some at the weekend , thanks
Title: Seaweed
Post by: ziggywigs on February 28, 2007, 15:03
The seaweed above high tide is ok but below the high water mark is better seaweed if you can get it.....sometimes you have to wait until it's washed up after a storm or wait for the March Royals.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on February 28, 2007, 16:19
oye ya daft planks ,,,,, blooming seaweeds gonna be dead when ya throw it on ya gardens you daft * it dont make no difference what colour it is .your using it as fertiliser .it will dry out on ya plots .. wot are you lot loike  :roll: if you throw dry seaweed in water it acts like a sponge n sucks the water back up ................jeeeeze  what are we gonna do wif ya  :lol: it was picked by the old time  folks and hung on racks to dry and crushed up to send to farms n the like
Title: Seaweed
Post by: little sweetpeas on February 28, 2007, 16:22
*, I've just put it on the compost. I'll have to rescue it.

Cheers
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on February 28, 2007, 16:25
leave it on there to rot down with the rest ya stuff its fine .... if ya wanan get some more we have tonnes here on the beach and kelp on good days
Title: Seaweed
Post by: little sweetpeas on February 28, 2007, 16:28
The OH as a race near the coast on Sunday so I'll get everyone collecting it, children think it's fun.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: JayBee on February 28, 2007, 17:13
Quote from: "muntjac"
oye ya daft planks ,,,,, blooming seaweeds gonna be dead when ya throw it on ya gardens you daft * it dont make no difference what colour it is .your using it as fertiliser .it will dry out on ya plots .. wot are you lot loike  :roll: if you throw dry seaweed in water it acts like a sponge n sucks the water back up ................jeeeeze  what are we gonna do wif ya  :lol: it was picked by the old time  folks and hung on racks to dry and crushed up to send to farms n the like


I disagree totally. Picking up dry black seaweed on the beach is a waste of time. You'll get some nutrients but a lot less than the green stuff.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: ziggywigs on February 28, 2007, 19:34
Found this  Seaweed and Kelp (http://www.plantea.com/seaweed-kelp.htm) which may be of help.
Title: Seaweed
Post by: muntjac on February 28, 2007, 19:44
well as you live in ireland and sea weed was a main source of fertiliser over there and also in the poorer parts  like cornwall and the west coast in this country id thought you may have agreed . seeing as most of  it is full of iodine etc .i would welcome the test that shows it contains less nutrients than being fresh ,having eaten varios types of seaweed in my training in survival skillls i can attest to them tasting yuck except the green lettuce types which just taste salty . its collected worldwide for  its health properties in the iodine part also it is used as agar .and then as a fertilisers in mainly the dairy farm areas . its value to the folks who grew potato's was massive being layed on the soil in the late autmn and left over winter .  and the colour of it is no reason to not pick it as far as i can see in its uses for the plot , we pick bladder wrack up here and its dried and then broken up and spread on allotments and gardens , but if you know something i dont matey im interested in knowing ,  :wink:  :D