Saving runner bean seed

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shokkyy

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Saving runner bean seed
« on: October 04, 2012, 13:57 »
I've left some nice big pods on my still very healthy (and still flowering) White Lady plants. I was intending to leave them there until they dried, to save the seeds. However, with the way the overnight temps are dropping now, are they going to be damaged if we have a bit of frost? I know it's best for them to dry on the plants, but they're nowhere near dry yet and I'm wondering whether the frost will harm them.

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 15:02 »

Grab a handfull (while still on the plant) and pop them into a brown paper bag within a plastic bag, but take the plastic bag off each morning.  That should protect the pods & seeds until dry.

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 15:05 »
I'm in the same boat as you Shokkyy (same variety too!)

The pods don't have to dry completely on the plant - the most important thing is that the seeds inside are sufficiently well developed to be viable next year. Once the fleshy part of the pod has started to dry and shrink and the seeds become clearly visible you can bring them in and dry them (none of mine are harvestable yet, but if you are anything like me you are bound to miss a few so will also have some backups which may do better than you expect.)  ;)

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 17:51 »
Trouble is I made the decision to save them rather late, and the crop was late anyway because of the foul weather earlier in the year. The big pods I'm talking about are well swollen but still quite fleshy, not even thinking about drying.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 19:31 »
Trouble is I made the decision to save them rather late, and the crop was late anyway because of the foul weather earlier in the year. The big pods I'm talking about are well swollen but still quite fleshy, not even thinking about drying.

I'd pull some off and leave them somewhere in the dry as a back-up. The rest can then take their chances but watch out that they don't begin to rot where they hang if it continues to be wet.

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 19:32 »
Yup, same again (again) Shokkyy!

As ever, one does one's best and then it's down to luck, although I'm not saying I won't be doing my Rumpelstiltskin impression if I have to actually buy some seeds next year!  :wacko:

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 20:34 »
you could cut the string, or pull them off their canes, and hang them to dry in your shed  ;)

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 22:18 »
Frost will not hurt the seeds at all.

I let mine dry completely on the plant and harvest the pods from now until December when I burn the dead foliage.
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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 23:00 »
sorry to jump in but can I ask if runners cross fertilise. I have White Lady and Scarlet Emperor close to each other - will seed be true to kind if I save it??
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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 23:07 »
sorry to jump in but can I ask if runners cross fertilise. I have White Lady and Scarlet Emperor close to each other - will seed be true to kind if I save it??
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It's unlikely as runners are insect pollinated  ;)

They'll still be edible runner beans though - it just depends how fussy you are  :D

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 00:48 »
Frost will not hurt the seeds at all.

I let mine dry completely on the plant and harvest the pods from now until December when I burn the dead foliage.

Frost isn't a problem but too much wet can cause decay.

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 09:05 »
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Frost isn't a problem but too much wet can cause decay.

Indeed some of the beans I grew for drying are showing signs of just rotting rather than drying :(

Even picked and brought inside to dry many are showinf signs of rot. Think I'll have to just pick shell and freeze before they get a chance to rot  :dry:

I'll need new seeds to grow next year though  :(

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Re: Saving runner bean seed
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 00:47 »

Even picked and brought inside to dry many are showinf signs of rot. Think I'll have to just pick shell and freeze before they get a chance to rot  :dry:

I'll need new seeds to grow next year though  :(

Let's hope the seed producers are having better luck or the prices will rocket.  :( But, there again, have they sent out catalogues for next season yet?  :unsure:



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