Does anyone use their own Spuds for seed??

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AndyRVTR

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Does anyone use their own Spuds for seed??
« on: January 09, 2009, 19:56 »
I was talking to a couple of my neighbours on the plot this afternoon and I mentioned to them I was looking for a supplier of seed potatoes.
During the conversation I asked if it was necessary to buy them every year for my crop and they told me that they use spuds from the previous years crop and use them for the following seasons 'seeds'.
Apparently they only do this for 3 seasons as a maximum to prevent any sort of disease build up.
Does anyone else do this as a rule?

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 20:01 »
Hi Andy,

Not tried this myself, but sounds like a good idea. Did read somewhere that many years ago people had grown potatoes from just the peelings that had eyes on them. :shock:
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 20:04 »
MIL told me they used to do this in the war.  I know you can cut tats up and plant as long as each piece has an eye.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 20:09 »
The old boys on the allotments round the corner (one lives next door) says they buy one year, use saved the next, with no probs.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 20:09 »
There you go Andy, its worth a try even as an experiment. Think i might plant a couple and see what happens.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 20:12 »
I think you dip them (spud chunks) in cold wood ash to seal them from disease if you go down this route
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 20:26 »
We save our own spuds for seeds, mostly the smaller ones which we feel give us a bigger yield and we plant 2-3 per hole depending on the spud size. However, we do buy all new 'seed' every 4 years or so to keep the crops disease free and we also practise yearly rotation which is also necessary. Otherwise, we'd regret it within a few years.
An organic seed farmer I know simply plants the same spuds year after year but always in different areas of the farm as he carries only rare varieties that can't be had elsewhere from seed.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 20:37 »
I grew potatoes from sprouted peelings the other year as an experiment. They were from my organic box and grown in a trough that I made from wood. They were lovely spuds! I didn't have any trouble with them and there were loads of them. Nic.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 20:57 »
I'm given to understand that the reason for not using 'home' spuds is that they may not be disease resistant - it is worth a try but clearly care is needed to keep an eye on potential blight.

I have (once) grown 'home' sprouted spuds and the crop was fine but I doubt I would take the chance again - given the wet stuff we have had
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 22:27 »
on the farm where I used to work as a young un we used a combination of newly bought certified seed potatoes and our own saved spuds. I am pretty sure we only used the spuds grown from seed for one year, so I suppose we cut the cost of seed spuds in half.

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 23:58 »
Please excuse me while I have a minor rant as lax crop hygiene on plots is something I get steamed up about.

On every bag of seed potatoes there is a certification number which allows them to be traced back to the grower if there is a problem.

The seed certification scheme in the UK is very robust. Seed potatoes are only grown in areas where aphids do not thrive as they carry all sorts of viruses. That is at high altitude or a long way north and that is why most seed is Scottish. Every crop is inspected several times while it is growing and those with disease are rejected and cannot be sold as certified seed.

Saving and planting seed for a second year is usual agricultural practice. To do this for a 3rd and 4th year is risking a build up of virus and disease.

Planting left over spuds from the supermarket or using peelings is asking for big trouble because you do not know if they are carrying disease. There are all sorts of nasties such as potato root eelworm and blackleg that you really do not want. Low levels of infection will not be obvious but eventually they will build up. Rotation helps but on the small scale of our gardens and allotments soil is easily carried on tools, barrows and boots.

A nasty souce of infection are self sown potatoes and potatoes growing in compost heaps. Dig them out and destroy if only to cut down blight infection.

I have little sympathy with any individual who gets infections through lack of hygiene but please have regard for your neighbours to whom your infections will spread.

For those who are sceptical look at the big problem with club root in brassicas on allotments and be warned.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 01:18 »
Well, that's us told then. Feel like a naughty school boy. If anybody wants me i'll be sitting in the corner :cry:

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 08:08 »
Thanks Salmo, that page is worthy of a bookmark!
Did it really tell you to do THAT on the packet?

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 08:41 »
I've linked to Salmo's post from the "Useful Topics & Sites" sticky, under "Certified Seed Potatoes - What Are They & Why Use Them?".

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 11:49 »
Quote from: "Salmo"
Please excuse me while I have a minor rant as lax crop hygiene on plots is something I get steamed up about.

On every bag of seed potatoes there is a certification number which allows them to be traced back to the grower if there is a problem.

The seed certification scheme in the UK is very robust. Seed potatoes are only grown in areas where aphids do not thrive as they carry all sorts of viruses. That is at high altitude or a long way north and that is why most seed is Scottish. Every crop is inspected several times while it is growing and those with disease are rejected and cannot be sold as certified seed.

Saving and planting seed for a second year is usual agricultural practice. To do this for a 3rd and 4th year is risking a build up of virus and disease.

Planting left over spuds from the supermarket or using peelings is asking for big trouble because you do not know if they are carrying disease. There are all sorts of nasties such as potato root eelworm and blackleg that you really do not want. Low levels of infection will not be obvious but eventually they will build up. Rotation helps but on the small scale of our gardens and allotments soil is easily carried on tools, barrows and boots.

A nasty souce of infection are self sown potatoes and potatoes growing in compost heaps. Dig them out and destroy if only to cut down blight infection.

I have little sympathy with any individual who gets infections through lack of hygiene but please have regard for your neighbours to whom your infections will spread.

For those who are sceptical look at the big problem with club root in brassicas on allotments and be warned.


100% correct.
Using supermarket spuds is also a bad idea as they can be from abroad and have all sorts of disease in them. One farmer in Wales used Dutch seed and got brown rot. His whole 300acre crop was destroyed and he can't grow potatoes anymore as the ministry has shut him down. Imagine how popular you would be on the plot if you got one of these diseases and the whole plot was closed down :shock:
I have read that it is just a vested interest that us seed suppliers have so that you buy our spuds but why do you think we go to so much bother to keep the health status in this country so high?  folk just plant things without knowing the risks.
My life would be so easy if we didn't have to certify crops but we take pride in what we do.
This is not a dig at anyone on here I am just stating the facts. :D
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