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Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: robinahood on August 10, 2014, 11:49

Title: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: robinahood on August 10, 2014, 11:49

Hello,

Although I have been reading these posts for a while, this is my first try! I have always loved gardening but only recently tried growing my own food, and I am hooked. I have a small city garden (no allotments available near me) and the soil is very light and hungry. I am also fortunate to have a small south facing yard, and would love to have a grapevine over a pergola type structure, to provide a screen against my neighbours washing, and a lovely green space to sit with a cool drink on a summer day. Edible grapes would be a bonus!

My questions, having read the info on this site are firstly, is it possible to grow the vine outside in a pot, given my poor soil? Would it survive winter frosts? And secondly, which varieties would you recommend for

Many thanks ::)

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2014, 13:35

No idea but welcome to the site  :D

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: realfood on August 10, 2014, 21:48

I would plant in the ground to avoid watering problems. Grapes are hardy and will go dormant over the Winter loosing their leaves.

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: robinahood on August 11, 2014, 05:48

Thanks Yorkie and realfood,

I will give it a go, nothing ventured etc!.......


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Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: Ma Lowe on August 11, 2014, 09:13

Hi and welcome to the site. Don't know if you have been to the RHS site some useful info there too here's the link

https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=288

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: robinahood on August 11, 2014, 16:59

Thanks Ma,

That link is just what i needed, as growing in the ground may be difficult I think i will try one in a container. My back yard will be just like a taverna.... (well, with some imagination!!!!)

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Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: Ivor Backache on August 12, 2014, 13:43

You are on the same latitude as me in N Wales. It is important to know what grows in your area. Do a lot of research (the RHS is an excellent site) and visit the garden centres to see what types they stock.
I built a plastic and wood  lean to affair for a Black Hamburgh and a green Larkmont to grow outside.  It is recommended that you grow them in the ground but that was not possible for the Hamburgh so I bought the biggest pot I could find similar to a half barrel.
You will be planting these in Spring so now is a good time to prepare the ground. Dig a 2' diameter hole and as deep and fill it with compost, manure, kitchen waste etc. Build a wire system to support the plant. They are prolific growers, but they will be pruned back at the end of the year. Don't expect fruit in the first year.

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: cadalot on August 12, 2014, 15:47

A useful diagram I planted mine last year and they are growing like mad this year, next year they will be better controlled 

Title: Re: Vine growing - general advice (first post!)
Post by: robinahood on August 12, 2014, 18:25

Thanks all,

I am looking to future years (part of what makes gardening so addictive I think).
A 2 ft hole deep hole is not an option so I will get myself a big container and look forward to possible fruit, but if not, a handsome foliage plant!
Although we are on a level with North Wales my OH says we dont get `weather` here! Its pretty dry on the whole so I will have to think about how to tackle that. I hope in town with the shelter of my house walls frost shouldnt be too much of a problem. We will see.....