tactics for new plot

  • 4 Replies
  • 3137 Views
*

stephent

  • New Member
  • *
  • Location: Monmouth, South Wales
  • 41
tactics for new plot
« on: December 22, 2012, 23:21 »
I have started to :( clear my plot and should have 2 beds ready 5m x 1.2m, which should give me space for some basics such as pots etc...

I plan to roundup the rest of the plot, as the clay soil is hard to get the couch out of.

But.... by the time I am able to clear with roundup, will there be much of a growing season left? How soon can I roundup?

*

compostqueen

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • 16597
Re: tactics for new plot
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 23:35 »
You can't do it until the weeds are growing, which is not yet.  Spring will be the time, when the weather begins to warm up

You could cover some of it with heavy duty black sheet mulch, weighed down well and just leave it.  You could then weed kill the bits you need first.  If you clear the whole plot you're faced with having to fill it all.  Having some of it under sheet mulch means it won't get any worse and the weeds will be killed off naturally while you get on clearing your next planting space. It buys you time if you see what I mean

*

stephent

  • New Member
  • *
  • Location: Monmouth, South Wales
  • 41
Re: tactics for new plot
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 23:39 »
Thanks. Plot is mostly covered with a black hessien sheet.

I know I cant roundup till spring, but once I have done that will it be too late to plant anything?

*

gavinjconway

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Location: Macclesfield - Cheshire
  • 2519
    • My Allotment Progress Website
Re: tactics for new plot
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 23:40 »
Hi Stephent.. There is no easy way out..    

Weedkillers can only be used when the plant is growing vigorously which means you wont be able to spray until it appears in the summer again.. I would suggest you double dig or deep dig and break up the clods and remove the roots by hand. I took over a very overgrown plot this time last year and in Feb/March this year I deep double dug the whole plot and removed loads of all sorts of bad roots and couch.  Do it well the first time and you wont be sorry. You can spray any that you will miss when digging. At the end of the season when your crop is harvested and the couch is still growing along merrily. Whilst digging you can add some good well rotted manure to help improve the clay soil.



sorry if this is a bit of a copy of above but we all replied at the same'ish time..
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 10:38 by mumofstig »
Now a member of the 10 Ton club.... 2013  harvested 588 Kg from 165 sq mt..

*

BabbyAnn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Location: nottinghamshire
  • 1478
Re: tactics for new plot
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 06:40 »
You could cover some of it with heavy duty black sheet mulch, weighed down well and just leave it.   

That's more or less what I did on about half of my plot when I first got it.  I made raised beds using wood from skips or pallets, then cut & removed the plastic from inside the frame work and did a rough dig turning the clod over - yes, with all the grass and perennial weed roots still there - and topped up with compost/manure.  The idea of the dig is to break up the compacted soil as the plot was prone to flooding in very wet seasons so digging allowed water to drain away, and raised beds added height and hence gravity.  I covered each bed first with sheets of cardboard (supermarkets are a good source) and over that, with a weed suppressant sheet (I got cheap perforated black plastic sheeting rather than the expensive fabric one) and stapled it down on the wood frames.  Presto, instant beds - the cardboard prevent light from reaching weed seeds and grass, the manure and compost added nutrients.  The remaining heavy duty black plastic smothered the grass on the footpaths.

This method is ideal for summer crops such as sweetcorn, courgettes & all winter squashes because the black plastic warms the soil and as most of these were not planted out until early-mid June, the weeds and grass were kept smothered.  Simply make planting holes through the plastic/cardboard and back fill with compost (use any card/plastic offcuts as collars round the plants to prevent weeds from pushing up with your crop).  The cardboard acts like a mulch and prevents water loss, and the perforated weed suppressant allowed rain water to penetrate so watering issues should be minimal.

This method however is not ideal for root crops like carrot and parsnip, and the black plastic can make the soil too warm for crops such as peas and broad beans which prefer cooler conditions.

Downside are hiding places for slugs and snails so do consider methods of dealing with them - I sprinkled a handful of slug pellets on the soil before covering the bed with the cardboard.  Another downside is that some weeds will find their way through holes in the plastic - bindweed are extremely good at this.  You could use weedkiller on those weeds without having to treat the whole plot.

At the end of the season, remove the weed suppressant sheeting.  Most of the cardboard will probably have rotted.  When digging the bed over, the compost and manure should help to break up the earlier clods of clay soil and you should then be able to remove the roots more easily - couch grass roots can remain dormant for more than a year so don't be fooled and think they are dead!

For a short term method, this worked well and helped me to plant up the plot in the first year without using too much weedkiller, or spend all my time digging the weeds out before planting up.  I've still got raised beds (been a godsend with this year's wet weather!) but you could easily dismantle the beds after a couple of years and remove the plastic sheeting on the footpaths if you preferred not to have static beds and wanted to cultivate the whole plot.


lamp
Tactics with lettuce...

Started by lisajpickering on Grow Your Own

5 Replies
1119 Views
Last post September 09, 2009, 22:41
by peapod
xx
my plot - new growers plot thanks to advice from you all

Started by pookey on Grow Your Own

2 Replies
2503 Views
Last post July 22, 2007, 19:23
by brucesgirl
xx
My First Plot - Plot 21 is confirmed

Started by SCassin on Grow Your Own

13 Replies
5011 Views
Last post September 12, 2013, 15:04
by Yorkie
xx
A new plot again!

Started by Caddi fuller-teabags on Grow Your Own

4 Replies
1615 Views
Last post December 07, 2008, 16:46
by Kate and her Ducks
 

Page created in 0.423 seconds with 33 queries.

Powered by SMFPacks Social Login Mod
Powered by SMFPacks SEO Pro Mod |