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Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ice on February 13, 2008, 14:15
I need to build a base three bricks high for my new, (thanks Henry), lean to greenhouse.
1.  How do you cut bricks in half?
2.  How do you do a corner?
3.  What mix will I get my servant son to make?

If it works the next project is an extension and downstairs loo. :lol:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ruth Cross on February 13, 2008, 15:14
One for me I thinks! :roll:

1. Unless you have got a disc cutter, with strong (very expensive) diamond disc/blade, you'll probably do best by using a a hammer and brick chisel. Unless you want to fork out for the proper tools, it is literally hit and miss. But if its only a lean to greenhouse wall and only 3 bricks high, I would guess you only need to half 6 -9 bricks! So not worth the expense of new tools :wink:

2. As long as you stagger the brick joints, just turn the next one to a right angle....simple
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd34/RuthCross/BRICKCORNER.jpg)

3. A standard mortar mix is 1 unit cement, 5 units sand, 1 unit lime. Just bear in mind at the moment that if its cold the mortar won't set. You'll need a good couple of warm days 8)

Hope that helps :wink:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ruth Cross on February 13, 2008, 15:16
....and if your worried about the strength of the corner, just lay some wire mesh in the mortar for reinforcement :wink: werks for me
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Trillium on February 13, 2008, 15:42
Cutting bricks with a brick chisel isn't at all hard.  Your workforce might need to practise on a trial brick, but it's easy enough though not as clean a cut as a stone saw. Just turn the brick so it won't show.  :wink:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: poultrygeist on February 13, 2008, 15:58
...and don't forget copious use of the spirit level and line to check it's level-ish and vertical-ish and try and enjoy it.

You can do a practice wall using just sand and lime mortar which won't set for days, meaning you can pull it apart and clean up easily.

Good luck !!  8)
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ice on February 13, 2008, 16:04
Thank you, that looks easy enough although I imagine I may get through quite a few bricks before getting one the right size.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: gobs on February 13, 2008, 16:11
Don't you know someone who would cut a few brick for you who has a machine? Can be hard work. :wink:

Definitely so with paving slabs! :lol:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ice on February 13, 2008, 16:27
I don't know anyone with a machine.  My dad was a builder and he never used one. It's a vague memory but I think he used to hold the brick in his hand and hit it with a big hammer. Not something I will be trying. :shock:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: snozzer on February 13, 2008, 16:29
Quote from: "Ice hockey mad"
I need to build a base three bricks high for my new, (thanks Henry), lean to greenhouse.
1.  How do you cut bricks in half?


Use a bolster chisle (4") and an lump hammer, place the bolster on the face where you want to cut it, hit it once on the face (the front of the brick 65mm high for a standard brick), flip it over hit the back once, then do the same on the top a bit harder, it should now fall in 2.

Quote from: "Ice hockey mad"
2.  How do you do a corner?


See the image below, its called stretcher bond.
Quote from: "Ice hockey mad"
3.  What mix will I get my servant son to make?


The serf should mix 5 Sand to 1 Cement, no more no less.  Get nice soft builders sand and use a typical rugby special type cement.  No need for any admix for such a small job.

Always start on a corner and build it up, then run a course (layer of bricks ) to another corner and build that up.  The correct guage is 75mm, which is 65mm of brick and 10mm bed joint of mortar.  The perps (upright joints are also 10mm), once you have 2 corners up and level and plumb, run a string line between them and lay the bricks to the line, that way you do not need a spirit level on the long runs as a line pulled tight between to level points can only be straight and level.

Simply really.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ice on February 13, 2008, 16:40
Thank you, I am good with practical tasks and willing to tackle anything.  If it goes well I might just do a barbecue structure next.  But first things first.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ruth Cross on February 13, 2008, 16:41
By the sounds of it snozzer, I could do with you on some of my sites...you should see the state of some of the walls I have to ask to be knocked down, built again, knocked down again etc etc :roll:  :roll:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ruth Cross on February 13, 2008, 16:48
Quote from: "gobs"
Don't you know someone who would cut a few brick for you who has a machine? Can be hard work. :wink:

Definitely so with paving slabs! :lol:


I thought crazy paving was actually popular :lol:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: gobs on February 13, 2008, 16:57
Only had to do one, so I thought, what the heck, grandpa finished it, bless, still looks, ahem.... :oops:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: gobs on February 13, 2008, 18:34
I know women are good at multi-tasking but Ice, how are you building a wall whilst having a heart op? :?
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: Ice on February 13, 2008, 19:26
One brick at a time Gobs, one brick at a time.  

Aidan is home from uni at the weekend to play hockey.  He is the brawn and I am the brain. :wink:  I can guilt trip for England. :lol:
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: shaun on February 14, 2008, 19:17
seen this gadget for laying bricks on late night/early morning tv.it was a tray with a slot and you wallop your mortor in it scrape it off and remove this tray,it leaves a nice level bed for your bricks,i will google it and see if i can find it,
anyone remember yozza building that wall in "boys from the black stuff"  :D
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: poultrygeist on February 14, 2008, 19:19
I can do that....gizza job.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: shaun on February 14, 2008, 19:20
i bet you my last quid we dont see any pictures of hockeys wall  :D
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: poultrygeist on February 14, 2008, 19:24
I'm deffo not posting pictures of my feeble attempts.

A gate pillar with a slight backward lean.
A greenhouse base which turned out ok but took 2 weeks - single course.
A lightweight block porch which has had 1 coat render so far but is not quite plumb.

I won't be taking up bricklaying for a living.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: David. on February 14, 2008, 20:19
Assuming this is a 3 course plinth built straight off a slab, or strip foundation, whatever happened to the convention of using a (1:3) cement and sand mix below dpc?

Plan your layout to avoid having to cut small lengths of brick at ends and corners - stronger + looks better to have 2 medium cut lengths, than a whole brick + a small piece.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: shaun on February 15, 2008, 16:20
here you go guys this is for the want to be brick layers  :wink:
i like the look of it  8)
bricky gadget (http://www.brickytool.com/index_eng.html)
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: poultrygeist on February 15, 2008, 16:36
That looks OK. Don't like dark mortar though.

I found the hardest thing was getting the right consistency or mortar.

I kept making it too stiff and ended up with thick beds. I'd read that most problems stem from too wet mix so I over-compensated and regret it.

It's one of those things you can only be shown on the spot. You can't easily describe it.
Title: Bricking it. How do I build a wall?
Post by: shaun on February 15, 2008, 16:44
too true and dont forget the plastiser(febmix) dont go down the fairy liquid road  :wink:
its much better in a mixer though.you need to do a trowel test
get a clean trowel,scoop a trowel full of mortor up,if it sticks to the trowel its too wet,and you know its too stiff just by looking at it  :wink: