Re: Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit

  • 3 Replies
  • 1746 Views
*

cc

  • Experienced Member
  • ***
  • Location: Lincolnshire
  • 234
Re: Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit
« on: August 20, 2017, 11:26 »
Instead of starting a new thread I might as well ask here.
Going to plant trees on a hill,  soil is limestone/chalk in clay. How is it best to go about it? Not easy to dig could use a hole borer? How deep and should I put compost or topsoil in the hole? How deep should I dig down? Thank you

*

mumofstig

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Location: Kent
  • 52881
Re: Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 11:52 »
Probably better to start a new thread when the old one was from 2008  :D
Lesley x
I'm not good, I'm not bad - I'm just me, and sometimes I have to apologise for that ;)

*

steved

  • Experienced Member
  • ***
  • Location: Gosport, Hampshire
  • 121
Re: Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 17:11 »
For fruit trees you cant bury deeper than the graft site, this should be about 6" above soil level. You can of course dig a bigger hole and fill with as much organic soil improver as possible and plant into this. Clay soil, although can be a PITA, is quite nutrient rich and as its going to be on a hill, shouldnt result in the roots sitting in standing water-which fruit trees really dont like.
I did similar, planting a mini orchard at the back of my allotment that I cleared, this was very clay so I was advised to grow trees on a more vigorous rootstock due to conditions being less than ideal(MM106)
Political Correctness-a concept based on the idea that its possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

*

New shoot

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Location: Reading
  • 16096
Re: Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 20:30 »
I was advised to grow trees on a more vigorous rootstock due to conditions being less than ideal(MM106)

That's good advice.  It also works well for trees you want to train as espaliers and other shapes, as they grow fast and give you lots of wood to work with.  You can always control the top with pruning, but a beefier rootstock really helps trees in poor soil.

The clay/chalk combo is a bit tricky.  You can end up with water draining into a planting hole like a sump and drowning the tree.  Dig as big a hole as you can.  Dig tree and shrub compost, or rotted manure or home made compost into the soil you take out and plant with that.   You want bulky organic matter in there as it does 2 jobs.  It holds water in the soil, but it also breaks up the clay to let it drain.




xx
Poor quality soil and fruit trees /soft fruit

Started by londongardener on Grow Your Own

5 Replies
2988 Views
Last post February 04, 2008, 11:40
by Ruth Cross
xx
Depth of soil for soft fruit.

Started by Rocinante on Grow Your Own

1 Replies
930 Views
Last post April 10, 2018, 19:35
by Nobbie
xx
Soft fruit plants that fruit in the same year?

Started by karooba007 on Grow Your Own

4 Replies
2214 Views
Last post February 04, 2009, 16:57
by Goosegirl
xx
fruit trees and fruit bushes...

Started by Nicki85 on Grow Your Own

7 Replies
3051 Views
Last post August 15, 2013, 23:37
by Sparkyrog
 

Page created in 0.335 seconds with 32 queries.

Powered by SMFPacks Social Login Mod
Powered by SMFPacks SEO Pro Mod |