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Eating and Drinking => Cooking, Storing and Preserving => Topic started by: viettaclark on January 20, 2012, 19:47

Title: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 20, 2012, 19:47
Did a blinding deal with the greengrocer for a case of Sevilles and I'm slowly working through them BUT removing the seeds gives me so much bother!
One suggestion was to squeeze the oranges which collects the seeds but I do the whole fruit recipe so can't cut and squeeze before using.
I suppose I could still do the whole fruit method but use half fruit as I use the water I simmer them in? Or maybe I could try squeezing (very gently because they're soft) after simmering?
I'd better experiment.
Any tips would be much appreciated.......
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 24, 2012, 16:44
I've just finished mine this afternoon, and i must say i'm glad to see the back of it.  The first batch is sort of exciting but i've had enough of it by the last. But enough for a year is now in the jar and I feel free :lol:
Last year I bought enough oranges for the years supply but only made up half of them.  I froze the rest to make later in the year.  The process worked well but I was always running out when i needed a jar for a friend or a bring and buy sale.
Can I ask, why are you making life so hard for yourself by doing the whole fruit method when there are so many pips in Sevills.
Is there any advantage to using that method?
I do the squeezing, cutting, pips in a muslin bag method.

I see your post was 4 days ago, how are you getting on.  You could freeze some like i did last year if you are cheesed of with it ::)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Yorkie on January 24, 2012, 17:41
For years now, my mum has used the Marmade (I think) tins from the supermarket to make marmalade and it's great.

Does away with all the palaver of real oranges - although obviously if you enjoy the challenge of real oranges then you won't want to go down this route!
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: mumofstig on January 24, 2012, 18:12
Ma Made
(http://www.blagger.co.uk/wp-content/2008-mamade-tin.jpg)

for me as well, sooo easy and cheap ;)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 24, 2012, 18:32
I've never costed that out  but it must work out more expensive if you have to make a lot, like i do, but my MIL is always saying i should use Mamade.  Which does set me against it a bit :blush:  :D

Also i do a few batches of variation. This year I did 1 batch lime and pink grapefruit, 1batch orange and lemon and 4 batches orange, lemon and grapefruit, the rest -another 6 batches are just orange.  
When i jar up i fill 2or 3 little jars first at each batch and a collection of these little jars makes  a nice sale item for the church roof fund or a pressie. :)

OH gets through 2 big jars a week :ohmy:
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Yorkie on January 24, 2012, 18:34
Mum's variations include alcohol ...  ::) :lol:
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: fisher on January 24, 2012, 18:55
Marmalade my very favourite!! I use a recipe where you cook the fruit whole in oven, then they are soft and easy to cut in half and remove the seeds.  (the WI book of Preserves and Pickles 1994)  I'm always impatient to get going so i use plac gloves and handle them when hot! Ouch! I freeze a few as well to do later in the year.  For the first time last year, I made enough to  keep me going for the whole year .. i opened the last jar a few days b4 the lovely sevilles arrived! :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: mumofstig on January 24, 2012, 18:56
I know they do a lemon Ma Made, not sure about lime or grapefruit, though  :unsure:
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 25, 2012, 00:44
My method is a real faff! You have to simmer the whole oranges for 1 hour, drain, do it again, keep the water, scrape the pulp from the rind and remove the pips, slice the rind, weigh the pulp and add sugar and juicy water and boil. Phew!
It's a very sticky business!
I think I'll try the other method of squeezing and cutting first. However you won't have lovely juicy bits and such soft rind? The set is always fast and good too.....(WITHOUT putting the pips in a bag) because the pectin from the skin has been simmered out into the water you use.
How long do Sevilles last in a very cool porch? I think I'm going to have to plug in the old freezer for a bit........
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Debz on January 25, 2012, 10:24
My family love home made marmalade.  I noticed that the blood oranges are back in at my local greengrocers so I shall make some marmalade and some orange curd with them soon.
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: sazhig on January 25, 2012, 10:46
My Mum always used a combination of Mamade tins and real oranges & lemons. But I hated picking the bits out so one year she strained a couple of jars for me and I had 'bitless' jars from her ever since  :D

She rang me yesterday to check I didn't need any more as she was starting this year's batch. Bit as I've stopped eating bread in the last couple of years I don't use it that much now, just the occasional cake filling or a dinner of 'orangy lamb chops' and I found I still had a jar from 2008 on my shelf...should be nice and mature now :tongue2:
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 25, 2012, 18:25
Just done a batch using Delia's recipe and it's definitely less sticky! She uses the pips and more water/sugar so it's less chunky.
I "caught" some rind on the bottom of the pan but managed to hoik out most of the "caramelised" bits. Luckily, it's such a bitter jam you don't notice!!
My knives aren't very sharp so cutting the raw peel was tedious.
Next batch I shall squeeze to get out the pips and juice then simmer the half fruits rather than shred at that stage. Cutting is so much easier if the peel is soft so we'll see if that works.
Made 20 jars now and there are loads of fruit left!
Marmalade, anyone.......? :D
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 25, 2012, 18:30
I juice and slice mine with my magimix. Does a good quick job :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Neil Doncaster on January 25, 2012, 18:33
 Im interested in the freezing bit .Do you freeze the whole orange if not what do you do?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 25, 2012, 18:37
Im interested in the freezing bit .Do you freeze the whole orange if not what do you do?

I freeze the whole fruits in 2or3lb lots.  I just wrap then up in a plastic supermarket bag and put them in.
Surprisingly they freeze really well but you may need to add a few more fruits than your recipe says if you are using frozen fruits
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 26, 2012, 00:26
Can you still squeeze them by hand ok after defrosting? Don't they go soggy?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 26, 2012, 09:26
Can you still squeeze them by hand ok after defrosting? Don't they go soggy?

They are a little softer but not to the point where you cant handle them the same as when fresh.  Here, they still get juiced and sliced in the magi-mix so i sure they would be ok done  by hand :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Neil Doncaster on January 26, 2012, 17:24
Thanks for that  I am going to make room in the freezer now
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 27, 2012, 16:39
Those of you who use a Magimix....do you use the julienne cutters or just shred?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 27, 2012, 16:51
And do you need the wide neck to get the orange in?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 27, 2012, 17:06
Those of you who use a Magimix....do you use the julienne cutters or just shred?

I use the citrus press first, all the pips are collected in that and the juice goes through to the bottom, then the 4mm slicing disc to cut the peel. :) It does an excellent job :)

I'm sorry, i dont know if the 'wide neck' is what i have but i can get 8 orange halves in the tube. :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 27, 2012, 17:09
Is that squishing them? Are they already soft?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Spana on January 27, 2012, 17:40
No, they are not soft or cooked already.
 Because the citrus press has taken most of the flesh out, 4 half skins fit inside each other and go in the bottom of the tube, then another 4 on top.  Put the pusher downer in the tube on top of the orange skins and they are cut in about 3 seconds.  Then i put in another 8 and go on like that until the batch is done. :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: viettaclark on January 27, 2012, 23:18
Thanks Spana! A real tip there!
I'm considering an investment but which model?
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: mrs mud on January 30, 2012, 10:39
I use Marmade, from past experience it seems to be everyone's fave so I keep it simple for myself now and stick with that, but sometimes I add lemon, lime or quince just to amuse myself.
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Mrs Bee on February 12, 2012, 03:54
Did a blinding deal with the greengrocer for a case of Sevilles and I'm slowly working through them BUT removing the seeds gives me so much bother!
One suggestion was to squeeze the oranges which collects the seeds but I do the whole fruit recipe so can't cut and squeeze before using.
I suppose I could still do the whole fruit method but use half fruit as I use the water I simmer them in? Or maybe I could try squeezing (very gently because they're soft) after simmering?
I'd better experiment.
Any tips would be much appreciated.......

I make loads of marmalade, loads of different recipes for home and for sale.
I make the seville marmalades and Autumn marmalade with sweet oranges and lemons.
I don't like the whole fruit method I don't think it gives the best results.

I too, got a case of Sevilles (20 k for £14) at Spitalfields market and prepare them in 3lb batches and freeze them. This means I can make the marmalade as and when I am ready and.... the freezing helps to soften the peel so it doesn't need so much cooking.

I use the magimix to juice the fruit. Then collect the pips and membrane left and pack in a plastic food bag. I then quarter the oranges scrape any membrane from them leaving just the pith and rind. Then i slice them by hand. I don't use the magimix for that as I find it gives too uniform a slicing. Looks a bit too supermarket for me.
I like it a little rustic looking. I  like people to know it is hand made. Some batches thinly and some batches thickly. Then I put the  juice and peel in a polybox, put the plastic bag of pips and menbrane on top, label and freeze.

I don't see the point of using the tinned mamand stuff. To me that defeats the object of cooking and preserving seasonally.
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: Yorkie on February 12, 2012, 19:42
Each to his/her own.  Mamande suits some people perfectly  :)
Title: Re: marmalade
Post by: grinling on February 14, 2012, 22:25
What sugar should you use with Mamade?