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Poultry and Pets => The Hen House => Topic started by: Binty on October 17, 2008, 21:05

Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on October 17, 2008, 21:05
Help! I got my lady's last week from a local farmer who was clulling his flock for the winter.  My 4 girls are only 23wks and one of them (Tiny Tim) is lame.  When I got her she was also very thin.  When I got them off the farmer he handed me two dog food sacks each with two chickens in.  I think she may have hurt herself while in the sack.  She has started putting weight on and is eating well, she just cant stand on one of her legs properly.  She keeps stretching her leg and wing.  I have checked her leg there is no swelling or heat and I cant find any flesh wounds. I have fallen in love with my girls and really enjoy spending time with them I am just really worried about her.  Sorry to rattle on but I just dont know where else to turn.   :cry:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Foxy on October 17, 2008, 22:11
Hi Binty and welcome to the forum (dont think we've met :D )
Going back to your 4 hens - 23 week old and culling? thats unusual -normally a farmer would reduce stock after about 18mths when laying isn't adequete for commercial purposes.
I am a little suspicious about the motives for cullling so young, I think in my nature Im afraid! :?
Now your hen does it look like she is unbalanced? and is she using opposite wing to help steady herself? It sounds a little like a nasty disease called "Mareks" which initially affects various nerves causing imbalance whilst the bird may be eating fine -dont panic worst case scenario. Saying that it doesn't look like great care of the birds and it could simply be stress and a poor diet causing the problem. Have a look at their combs -are they nice and red? if pale and shriveled looking could indicate a nutritional problem as at 23weeks would expect them to look nice and pink.
Keep a close eye on her -particulary how she moves around and also her droppings do they look normal -browny green,firm with a white cap as a  high wormload may cause her thiness. She just could be a runt which is why the farmer was going to cull Im afraid.
Keep us posted!
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: MontyTom on October 18, 2008, 00:28
how are its eyes? Funny looking pupils, bright or tired looking?
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: poultrygeist on October 18, 2008, 08:42
Hi Binty. Welcome aboard. :D

My first thought was how strange a culling at 23 weeks was. It does sound as though he may have singled these ones out for some other reason, but that doesn't mean you can't give them a good home.

If you can manage to post some photos of them, that may give some extra clues. :)

If you're not sure how, THIS (http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=19476) help topic should assist. :)

Rob 8)
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Bodger on October 18, 2008, 09:18
Cut your losses now before they become any greater. You owe it to youself to start your poultry experience by keeping healthy chickens from the outset.

Please read this. http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=19629
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: ceri green on October 18, 2008, 09:23
bodger

you seem a bit negative today...........?
whilst you are probably right in your advice, i am not too sure about the bedside manner  :o
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Bodger on October 18, 2008, 09:27
I'm sorry for appearing to be heartless, but I think I'm actually being very positive. I want as many people to keep chickens as possible and I don't want new comers being put off this very rewarding hobby by starting with an extremley negative experience.
I'm afraid, that I've never been a fluffy bunny. :lol:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on October 18, 2008, 16:11
Thanks for your replies I didnt make myself clear before, the farmer is retiring due to ill health (he is 75 and been "working the land" all his life, he was finding homes for as many chickens as he could, most of his old stock has now been culled and he rehomed as much of his young stock as possible.  Back to Tiny Tim, her combs is nice and red and her eyes are bright.  She is sat down resting at the moment but when she stands up she will stretch the bad leg and the wing on the same side almost as if she is trying to stretch out a muscle.  She isnt having any balance problemss

Thanks for all your help, I love reading this forum everyone seems really helpful and friendly.  
   :lol:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Bodger on October 18, 2008, 16:33
It sounds typical of Mareks.
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: poultrygeist on October 18, 2008, 18:22
Could it be soft tissue damage ??

I thought balance problems were a symptom ?

Rob 8)
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Aunt Sally on October 18, 2008, 18:39
It sounds rather like Marek's to me too  :cry:
But you'd loose nothing by giving her losts of tlc with the hope she may recover.  

But be warned if it is Marek's she could always be a source or infection to other birds   :(
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Foxy on October 18, 2008, 18:53
Quote from: "Aunt Sally"
It sounds rather like Marek's to mee too  :cry:
But you;d loose nothing by niving her losts ofntlc with the hope she may recover.  

But be warned if it is Marek's she could always be a source or infection to other birds   :(



and if that wasn't quite clear auntie actually said "giving her lots of TLC" bless her probably needs a little oil.... :lol (or a bit too well oiled!!! :lol:  :lol: )
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: poultrygeist on October 18, 2008, 18:53
Isolation is important then. And monitor closely. :)

Best to keep a realistic outlook throughout. :?

Rob 8)
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on October 18, 2008, 18:55
Does this mean she will have to be killed?  will the others get it too??  I am now going to search the net for Mareks I have got books but there is not a lot of info. :cry:  :cry:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Aunt Sally on October 18, 2008, 19:03
Quote from: "Foxy"

and if that wasn't quite clear auntie actually said "giving her lots of TLC" bless her probably needs a little oil.... :lol (or a bit too well oiled!!! :lol:  :lol: )


 :roll: I was trying to dish up a curry while typing  :roll:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on October 18, 2008, 19:06
Multi tasking isnt it great :lol:  :lol:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on October 18, 2008, 20:20
I think I will separate her tomorrow and see how it goes will keep you posted.
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: poultrygeist on October 18, 2008, 20:22
Look forward to some hopeful news. :D

Rob 8)
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: chickenlady on October 18, 2008, 21:12
fingers crossed for you binty! will be waiting for any news!
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Binty on November 08, 2008, 19:30
Just thought I would give a quick update Peggy (formally known as Tiny Tim) is doing really well, she is still limping but she can now put some weight on her leg and she has started laying!! :lol:  :lol:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: karlooben on November 08, 2008, 19:49
Quote from: "Bodger"
I'm sorry for appearing to be heartless, but I think I'm actually being very positive. I want as many people to keep chickens as possible and I don't want new comers being put off this very rewarding hobby by starting with an extremley negative experience.
I'm afraid, that I've never been a fluffy bunny. :lol:


i agree with what you are saying bodger , i know i am still very new at keeping chickens but i'm also glad that i went via a rescue centre to get my girls at least i know they were checked over first by experienced ppl ,. if i had a negative experience by getting ill or dodgy birds the first time then i think it would of put me of , but i must say i take my hat of to other ppl that are doing this an just getting birds from anywhere they can at the end of the day they all desevre a good home .

hope your girly is better soon i have a sick girl a its scary
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: poultrygeist on November 08, 2008, 19:52
Great news Binty ! :D

Well done for sticking with her. I'm sure she'll repay you 10 fold.

Rob 8)
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: Hawkins on November 08, 2008, 21:40
grate news Binty, she will love you forever and we all seem to bond to the odd ones.

Em :D
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: muntjac on November 09, 2008, 05:34
Quote from: "Bodger"
Cut your losses now before they become any greater. You owe it to youself to start your poultry experience by keeping healthy chickens from the outset.

Please read this. http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=19629



 i stand with bodger here ,there are to many folks who are starting out keeping birds and getting ripped off afore they  know the joys of having them .even myself i have had  breeders and poultry specialists try to sell me .and even succeed in giving me  " dodo " infected birds  , i have even heard of some  chicken keepers getting in battery birds feeding them on intensive feed for a few weeks and then selling them on for stupid prices .so take notice of what bodgers post says ..... buyer beware  :wink:
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: babe on November 10, 2008, 15:47
Quote from: "Bodger"

I'm afraid, that I've never been a fluffy bunny. :lol:


aww bodgy boo, you are a fluffy buny really  :D
Title: Lame Chicken
Post by: babe on November 10, 2008, 15:52
but 'on topic'

sooo agree with bodgy and munty.

getting rscued chooks is rewarding and wonderful thing to do.

but if you've not kept poultry before i'd always suggest going for a few healthy birds first.

you will learn so much from them, and more importantly learn what is normal, so that at a later date you'll spot whats not normal.