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Poultry and Pets => Chicken Chat => Topic started by: Casey76 on January 23, 2011, 08:50
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Someone is selling "Bluebelle" hatching eggs... poor unsuspecting buyers :(
I sent them a mail wonding if they knew Bluebelles are an f1 hybrid... I wonder what response (if any) I get lol!
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I wouldnt have known that ???
Just goes to show research is sooo important if you want something specific!
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Hi min200, a Bluebelle is the offspring of a Rhode Island Red and a blue Marans.
Therefore any matings between two Bluebelles would result in a range of colours and types, many of which would look nothing like a Bluebelle (the name "Bluebelle" is also a tradename, like Black Rock, so unless the eggs come from the official hatchery no one should be using that name ;)
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Maybe you should be informing ebay.
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ebay take a very dim view of people selling fakes and I guess this is what these people are doing. Casey if you don't want to inform pm me the item number etc and I'll get in touch with ebay :)
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Maybe you should be informing ebay.
You beat me to that DD!
Now already today I have learnt something new!
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Their name isn't Gary is it? :lol:
The chap Joy and I complain about up the road was selling trios of 'Bluebelles' in 2009. We told his assistant that you can't sell trios of bluebelles as they are hybrids. "Oh I know he said, we get all sorts of colours from them!" :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Here's another one! £6 for 6 eggs, but they are a mixture of whatever they've got!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-FERTILE-HATCHING-EGGS-HEN-MARAN-BLUEBELLE-GOLDLINE-/290524434180?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Poultry&hash=item43a49b0f04
some people eh??
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no it's not Gaz :)
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::) ::) ::) ::)
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ebay is like the modern day version of the dodgy bloke down the pub
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Hi min200, a Bluebelle is the offspring of a Rhode Island Red and a blue Marans.
So what if they had the above parents..... would that make a bluebelle???
I saw this auction and thought that it wasnt right....
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Only the people (and their nominated breeders) who developed this cross and registered the name are allowed to call them bluebelles everybody else should call their RIR/Blue Maran crosses RIR?Blue Maran first cross :)
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I wouldn't buy hatching eggs from ebay anyway it's just asking to be ripped off. When people can sell choc orps hatching eggs for such ridicules prices and there's no guarentee of quality or even hatchability it's a huge incentive for dishonesty. What's to stop someone only including say 3 genuine eggs along with 3 infertile ano eggs and doubling their profit. Also there's plenty of nasty infections and diseases that can be transmitted via eggs how do you know what you are buying.
I know there will be many honest sellers too but the temptation for fraud or to sell low quality at inflated prices must be irresistable for the more unscrupulous.
HF
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Hi, I am new to the forum and the reason I was looking for chicken forums is to also have a rant about something I saw on ebay. There is a poultry house for sale with two poor hybrid hens in - kept on pavement slabs, with what looks to be no food or any greens to peck at and a mad looking dog in the back ground staring them out!! I just thought that this picture epitomises the "latest fad" and is all the worse because animals are involved. I know not all poultry keepers have acres of pasture, but they can be kept on bark, straw etc, but they should also have greens hung up and a material on the run floor to scratch through dont you think? Anyway - thanks for letting me have a rant! I didn't know how to put the photo on, but there is an attachment at the bottom - i think!
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Hi, I am new to the forum and the reason I was looking for chicken forums is to also have a rant about something I saw on ebay. There is a poultry house for sale with two poor hybrid hens in - kept on pavement slabs, with what looks to be no food or any greens to peck at and a mad looking dog in the back ground staring them out!! I just thought that this picture epitomises the "latest fad" and is all the worse because animals are involved. I know not all poultry keepers have acres of pasture, but they can be kept on bark, straw etc, but they should also have greens hung up and a material on the run floor to scratch through dont you think? Anyway - thanks for letting me have a rant! I didn't know how to put the photo on, but there is an attachment at the bottom - i think!
I think the coop was put there for the sale photos, judging by the lack of poop it has not been there 10 minutes.
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Yes - I think you are probably right! I think if they had been there more than a couple of hours, there would be a few "piles"!!
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Hi, I am new to the forum and the reason I was looking for chicken forums is to also have a rant about something I saw on ebay. There is a poultry house for sale with two poor hybrid hens in - kept on pavement slabs, with what looks to be no food or any greens to peck at and a mad looking dog in the back ground staring them out!! I just thought that this picture epitomises the "latest fad" and is all the worse because animals are involved. I know not all poultry keepers have acres of pasture, but they can be kept on bark, straw etc, but they should also have greens hung up and a material on the run floor to scratch through dont you think? Anyway - thanks for letting me have a rant! I didn't know how to put the photo on, but there is an attachment at the bottom - i think!
Deplorable but you are highjacking this thread which is about hatching eggs not appalling advertising.
HF
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Thank you for the welcome message - I just happened to see the ebay thread. I thought this forum was friendly!
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I don't think HF was being unfriendly - just focused on the point in hand.
Stick around and you will see that we are a friendly bunch .... the chicken people can 'cluck' for hours on all sorts of feathery topics.
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Most of us are.
Hillfooter - that was hardly the friendliest greeting you could have given to a new member.
The post was not that far off beam, threads have been known to wander far more than this without anyone batting an eyelid.
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I agree DD especially as this is on the chicken chat section
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Yes - I think you are probably right! I think if they had been there more than a couple of hours, there would be a few "piles"!!
They would smell alot more on slabs as well!
I recently bought some Serema hatching eggs off of Ebay and so far all are showing fertile. Has anyone else bought eggs off of Ebay and had successful hatchings?
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copper blue marans which hatched out to be copper black marans good fertility rate though (I did collect them as I didn't want to risk the post).
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Thank you for the reassuring replies - what a relief! I was simply making a point about the welfare of some hens. Yes we have bought eggs from ebay with varied success. The best were 6 golden silkie bantam hatching eggs from somewhere in the lakes (from ebay) through the post - we had all six hatch, lost one within hours, but the others were very healthy. Obviously out of the 5 left, 4 were cockerels and one hen! My daughter has shown one of the cockerels and the hen in a juvenile class and got second and third. The worst result we had were for a dozen Ko shamo and only two hatched, both died within 24 hours.
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Thank you for the welcome message - I just happened to see the ebay thread. I thought this forum was friendly!
Sorry Twinkle I wasn't being unfriendly and please feel free to comment or start another thread if the topic is new. I didn't actually notice you were new so I probably should have allowed for that.
HF
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
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I have bought three lots of eggs from ebay- the first was good, second lot having second thoughts about out of 12 eggs 6 hatched one died within 24 hours. Out of the 5 that are left 2 look like the buff orpintons but the other 3 are more of a red colour and the cockerels are now starting to develop green tail feathers so I think thy must be some sort of cross- not what I wanted, not sure what to do about it either.
The third lot are in the inci so will see how we get on with these, I guess you can never be sure what you are getting until they are older and by then you are attached to them.
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
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Apology accepted Hillfooter! When we bought eggs on ebay, we tended to look for follow-up feedback comments, because they can indicate whether the hatch rate is good at least, although hatching ability differs from person to person and incubator to incubator. We have also sold hatching eggs on ebay and asked buyers to leave normal feedback in relation to postage and packing quality, then follow up feedback regarding hatching. :D
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
eldest son lives at Gainsborough so visiting there on Saturday :D.
What breeds do you have?
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
Well you'll be able to join the Lincolnshire coven then and swop spells and suggestions for magic potion ingredients. I hear crushed egg shells are very good. You don't happen to have eglus do you?
Better watch what I say or Joy will turn me into a toad again :(
HF
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You mean you're no longer a toad? :ohmy: - I must remember to use a stronger spell next time ;)
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Someone is selling "Bluebelle" hatching eggs... poor unsuspecting buyers :(
I sent them a mail wonding if they knew Bluebelles are an f1 hybrid... I wonder what response (if any) I get lol!
It is ebay policy not to allow live stock sales on ebay inform them if you have already not done it.
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as they are hatching eggs they are not classed as livestock :)
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Suppose it's the same argument that a foetus isn't really a child :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Hate those type of loopholes.
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I've bought eggs on ebay too and had mixed results. I had 5 lots of 6 and from four I had 19 hatch which was excelent but one lot only two hatched which were supposed to be speckled Sussex for which I paid a reasonable sum. One was nothing like a SS and the other wasn't a great specimen either.
Feedback is an excellent recommendation but with hatching eggs the majority of the feedback relates to delivery and really you need to know about hatch and how healthy the chicks are. I wasn't happy with one of the batches I had which had hatched fine but I suspected that the birds were carriers of Leukosis, one I culled as having very positive symptoms. The others although not showing symptoms I've never trusted to breed from. Some diseases like leukosis don't show themselves until the birds mature. Too late for feedback.
Buying birds is never without its risks and I'm not saying to not use ebay as I know there are many genuine chicken breeders that use it and you should not be affraid to ask questions of the seller to do what you can. However it is very open to abuse by those who see it as a way to get easy cash with little comeback particularly for poor hatch rates.
HF
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Hi, I am new to the forum and the reason I was looking for chicken forums is to also have a rant about something I saw on ebay. There is a poultry house for sale with two poor hybrid hens in - kept on pavement slabs, with what looks to be no food or any greens to peck at and a mad looking dog in the back ground staring them out!! I just thought that this picture epitomises the "latest fad" and is all the worse because animals are involved. I know not all poultry keepers have acres of pasture, but they can be kept on bark, straw etc, but they should also have greens hung up and a material on the run floor to scratch through dont you think? Anyway - thanks for letting me have a rant! I didn't know how to put the photo on, but there is an attachment at the bottom - i think!
Hi and welcome not wishing to steer this of topic I have to suggest that some people are unfortunate like myself not to have much if any soil ground, but it doesn't make them bad people for wanting to keep chickens as long as they are well looked after why worry if it is flags or soil under their feet? The coop looks like it has been well used which would suggest this person has kept chickens for some time so possibly not a fad as you put it. As for the dog I have a Jack Russell that looks at my ferrets that way but the ferrets know who is the boss :D :D :D I am just asking that people don't judge people without knowing their circumstances. Anyway lets get back to the original topic.
Cheers Bill
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You mean you're no longer a toad? :ohmy: - I must remember to use a stronger spell next time ;)
fortunately I got better without having to kiss too many Princes. A course of crushed egg shells with a swigg of Lifeguard helped though I do now have a strange compulsion to roost at night:D
HF
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Hi, I am new to the forum and the reason I was looking for chicken forums is to also have a rant about something I saw on ebay. There is a poultry house for sale with two poor hybrid hens in - kept on pavement slabs, with what looks to be no food or any greens to peck at and a mad looking dog in the back ground staring them out!! I just thought that this picture epitomises the "latest fad" and is all the worse because animals are involved. I know not all poultry keepers have acres of pasture, but they can be kept on bark, straw etc, but they should also have greens hung up and a material on the run floor to scratch through dont you think? Anyway - thanks for letting me have a rant! I didn't know how to put the photo on, but there is an attachment at the bottom - i think!
Hi and welcome not wishing to steer this of topic I have to suggest that some people are unfortunate like myself not to have much if any soil ground, but it doesn't make them bad people for wanting to keep chickens as long as they are well looked after why worry if it is flags or soil under their feet? The coop looks like it has been well used which would suggest this person has kept chickens for some time so possibly not a fad as you put it. As for the dog I have a Jack Russell that looks at my ferrets that way but the ferrets know who is the boss :D :D :D I am just asking that people don't judge people without knowing their circumstances. Anyway lets get back to the original topic.
Cheers Bill
so how is the auction going Bill?
HF
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Wait whilst I compose myself! I haven't laughed so much in a long time! ... Quote "Hows the auction going Bill?".... :lol: :lol: :lol: I agree with you about the ability to leave feedback on hatching eggs with the time limit given for such, and the time it takes for a disease to present itself in juvenile poultry - you are correct that ebay gives the opportunity for unscrupulous beings to sell anything they like matched up to an image of their choice! Similar to a situation at our local poultry auction years ago it was found that someone was selling tray up on tray of all his "clear" eggs as "mated" eggs!! Terrible. Also I was not judging people who cannot keep their hens on green pasture - just that surely something, anything other than hard slabs to enable them to have a scratch through is better?? ??? Sorry no can do on the Eglu front - wouldn't bother personally, would look out of place next to our hand made hotch potch style sheds! :)
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
Well you'll be able to join the Lincolnshire coven then and swop spells and suggestions for magic potion ingredients. I hear crushed egg shells are very good. You don't happen to have eglus do you?
Better watch what I say or Joy will turn me into a toad again :(
HF
Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
Well you'll be able to join the Lincolnshire coven then and swop spells and suggestions for magic potion ingredients. I hear crushed egg shells are very good. You don't happen to have eglus do you?
Better watch what I say or Joy will turn me into a toad again :(
HF
I would love to learn some new spells!! Also can anyone tell my why my profile pic won't show? (not to steer from topic of course), but I cannot find a technical help topic and I have been on the Help section.
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Probably because it's too big. If I remember right it has to be a certain max size.
HF
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so how is the auction going Bill?
HF
Ouch that hurt but I've been offered 50p :D :D :D :D :D
Twinkie002
Also I was not judging people who cannot keep their hens on green pasture - just that surely something, anything other than hard slabs to enable them to have a scratch through is better??
I agree with you to an extent on that for example the coop and run I had delivered is two runs long giving my chucks plenty of space and I will be looking to put some hey down on the area I'll be keeping ours. and when possible give them access to the plot area in my small garden.
Bill
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i was wanting to buy some eggs off ebay soon but am put off now! where else can you buy eggs from? i only know of places to buy birds? either as day old or POLs.
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I don't know much about poultry, but I do know that you need look no further than this site itself:
http://www.poultry.allotment-garden.org/poultry-suppliers/live-hatching-egg-suppliers.php
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i was wanting to buy some eggs off ebay soon but am put off now! where else can you buy eggs from? i only know of places to buy birds? either as day old or POLs.
I bought some Serema eggs from Ebay and they are all showing fertile at the moment. I suppose there will always be those that con folk but there are many im sure that are genuine.
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Many more people are likely to complain online than actually praise companies/websites. Everyone who buys eggs from ebay knows that it is a risk, post, unknown sender etc, if you don't want to take this risk then don't buy them! I have bought them in the past and had great success, I have also bought from other poultry keepers and they have not hatched. The unfortunate thing in life is that there will always be someone, whether it is ebay or not, who will try to rip you off! But there are plenty of others who will not! :tongue2:
Rant over, sick of seeing ebay egg threads..... (rant starting again! ::))
Steve :)
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I think a lot of us make the mistake when we first start out of believing the blurb that comes from the sellers of these coop/ runs. I bought one just like it from ebay when I started and it was listed as being suitable for 6 hens! luckily I only had 3 bantams and I quickly threw together an extended run for them. If I'd had 6 hens in one of these they wouldn't have been much better off than battery hens.
I've also bought hatching eggs from ebay and they turned out nothing like I expected.
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I agree - a lot of these cheaper ebay sheds are imported from China and I wonder who in their company would have a clue about the recommended dimensions of space our UK chickens require! I think its best for keepers to judge for themselves, which can be quite difficult to tell when looking at a photograph on ebay. I would probably look at they say the number of hens it could house, then half it to be safe! :happy:
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even then the runs are often big enough for just one hen at the most, they are ok if you place the coop inside a run giving them room to move.
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Twinkie002 where abouts in Lincolnshire are you? There are lots of us on here from Lincs, myself, Grannie Annie, Rachel, GTFC, chickenlady, Nichchick, Dabhand in fact the list could go on and on and on :D.
I'm from the South Holland area (about 12 miles from Spalding, and 12 from Boston) and Grannie Annie lives just a couple of miles or so down the road from me :)
Hi, I am from the Lincoln / Gainsborough area bit further north than Boston etc , but Lincolnshire is a huge county! :D
Well you'll be able to join the Lincolnshire coven then and swop spells and suggestions for magic potion ingredients. I hear crushed egg shells are very good. You don't happen to have eglus do you?
Better watch what I say or Joy will turn me into a toad again :(
HF
:D :D :D :D :D
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My last batch of eggs from ebay are not what i expected they are suposed to be buff orpingtons but they have green tail feathers I contacted the seller and was told they carn't have green feathers as there were only buff orpingtons in the pen!
So either the seller is not telling the truth or the chickens have got hold of green dye when I have been out!!!!!!! ;)
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blooming cleaver chickens :D :D :D :D :D
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I got a house off ebay 6 months ago and am quite pleased with it (after a few alterations). There is plenty of room in the house for 5/6 banties (got 3) but the run is tiny, so they are out in the mainly slabbed garden all day. Have got borders and lots of pea pebble stratching areas that they love to make a mess of.
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I have just brought serama eggs off eBay and they are all looking good. I think some of it is down to how the postal system has treated the eggs can't always blame the supplier. Of course there are sellers who know there eggs won't hatch but I guess you get there everywhere
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I sell my serama, quail and pekin eggs on ebay (sold serama unknowingly to Min200) and have had good feedback from all sold..... even some that were posted to leeds and then flown to Hungary (may have said this before) ;)
Its not always down to the post, but how well the eggs are packed and the quality/age of the egg in the first place that counts :)
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They must be SUPERB quality if they can fly to Hungary in their unhatched state!!
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I sell my serama, quail and pekin eggs on ebay (sold serama unknowingly to Min200) and have had good feedback from all sold..... even some that were posted to leeds and then flown to Hungary (may have said this before) ;)
Its not always down to the post, but how well the eggs are packed and the quality/age of the egg in the first place that counts :)
3 days to go 3 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not an excited big girls blouse honest!!
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Im not an excited big girls blouse honest!!
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Fibber ;)
Eli xx
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Uba, Every time I watched a Harry Potter movie and Hagart would say he got his hatching dragon egg from an Irishman down at the pub, etc., I was lost at the humour of it until your comment here. I'm an American transplant, and even after quite a few years of living here permanently, I'm still catching on to little cultural things like this! So it's been an "AHA!" moment for me today. Thanks!