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Title: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: rowlandwells on December 08, 2022, 13:19
Turkey. is it a  Christmas tradition to have turkey for Christmas as we have done for years is turkey every ones choice of meal for Christmas  ? personally I'm not to bothered with having a whole Turkey turkey drumsticks will do me and my wife's not a fan of turkey and as turkey's mite  to be in short supply and not forgetting the what a turkey mite cost us this year should we turn to some thing deferent

I don't mind if I do a nice piece of pork or lamb maybe a piece of salmon so whatever meat dishes we chose we still can have all the trimmings can't we a nice piece of rolled shoulder of lamb or pork stuffed makes the ideal meal for me so what's your thoughts on having turkey for Christmas or perhaps something different
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: GraciesGran on December 08, 2022, 13:29
We are having a turkey crown and a leg of lamb.  Husband loves turkey and lamb is my favourite, we'll enjoy it cold for a few days after.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: mumofstig on December 08, 2022, 13:43
I'm not that struck on turkey, always find it a bit dry.
This year it'll be loin of pork with stuffing, under a puff pastry lid.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Hampshire Hog on December 08, 2022, 13:51
I have a turkey on order from the local butcher so fingers crossed it will arrive!
My daughter’s family will be with us for Christmas lunch so I need a decent size bird to feed us all. Mind you if it all goes wrong I’m sure I could create something else.  :)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Growster... on December 08, 2022, 16:36
Tesco buttered chicken breast joint here! Enough for two of us three times!

£5.60 and an aluminium tin thrown in as well!

(Just made a curry from a load of chicken from last Christmas (!) so we don't hang about...;0)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: AndyRVTR on December 08, 2022, 17:26
We're having turkey and a leg of mince  :D
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: snowdrops on December 08, 2022, 17:47
I’ve ordered a rib f beef & a turkey crown from my friendly farmer, it’s for us & our daughter & partner, we’re having the beef at theirs on Christmas Day & then we’re sharing the rest of it & she’ll cook the turkey on Christmas Eve for their outlaws on Boxing Day & we’ll share that as well.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2022, 18:43
We've had beef for years, not a big piece as it's only me and Mum. But it should be enough to do a Delia special cottage pie the next day  :)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: wighty on December 09, 2022, 08:22
There's a turkey crown in the freezer for us.  I'm not that keen, much prefer the curry, pie etc made with the leftovers.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Growster... on December 09, 2022, 17:37
We've had beef for years, not a big piece as it's only me and Mum. But it should be enough to do a Delia special cottage pie the next day  :)

Many years ago, I worked for a company which gave everyone a turkey and a joint of pork for Christmas! They also gave us a bottle of Scotch, which was all very generous and very welcome!

One year, I asked if we could have beef instead as we're not that keen on turkey, and they handsomely obliged with a rolled piece of sirloin about 18" long and the same size of rolled pork! The Scotch 'just happened' to be a single malt (I was in charge of comestibles...), and a good time was had by all, as the beef was cut in half and the other bit frozen, and the pork also cut and was frozen for Easter!

Somehow the Scotch didn't last very long...

This little story always comes out around this time of year, and we all toast the old company for such generosity, as there were a couple of hundred of us all striving to make a decent crust back then in the eighties!

Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: MrsPea on December 09, 2022, 18:14
 Christmas day were having curry, but i shall get a small cown for us, we use to go out for curry but it's got so expensive i order it the night before put it in the fridge and heat up on the day, saves all the messing about.
It's just another day, sorry i'm a bar humbug  :)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Hampshire Hog on December 09, 2022, 18:20
Good reminder of past company generosity Growster.
Mine used to send a large hamper to pensioners this shrank over the years and then became cash. Finally expired to nothing. Covid provided the rationale to cancel the annual pensioner dinner too. Doubt that will ever be resumed.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: mumofstig on December 09, 2022, 19:07
Covid provided the rationale to cancel the annual pensioner dinner too. Doubt that will ever be resumed.
Same with mine  :(
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on December 10, 2022, 19:56
We had roast turkey for our Thanksgiving dinner, as is the tradition.  It's my favorite meal of the year.  Mrs. Subversive does a wonderful job with the bird.  I was in charge of making 2 pies, pumpkin and apple.

Christmas cooking will be my job.  Brunch will be turkey sausage gravy with home-made biscuits (biscuits here are a simple flaky bread; my understanding is that what we call "cookies" here, you call biscuits there?).

Christmas dinner is also my job, chicken smothered with almonds and aromatic spices, served with a mushroom rice pilaf (Indian dishes).  Most likely served with saag (Indian buttered greens), or possibly a green salad if the greens in the garden are ready.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: mumofstig on December 10, 2022, 20:44
with home-made biscuits (biscuits here are a simple flaky bread; my understanding is that what we call "cookies" here, you call biscuits there?).
From the recipes/pics online, they are much the same as our 'scones' but minus sugar in the mix, so guess your recipe may have arrived with the Scots/Irish  :)
Biscuits here are mostly quite flat and dry, but we do have thicker cookies, nowadays as well - just to complicate things  :D
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Lardman on December 10, 2022, 22:10
Christmas cooking will be my job.  Brunch will be turkey sausage gravy with home-made biscuits (biscuits here are a simple flaky bread; my understanding is that what we call "cookies" here, you call biscuits there?).

Back when I used to be bothered to cook, I regularly did biscuits and gravy with pork sausage meat.  They haven't caught on over here, probably the closest thing we do would be stew and dumplings.

I've put some pork on the shopping order but I won't be making a particular effort, not really much point for one.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: New shoot on December 11, 2022, 08:56
I've put some pork on the shopping order but I won't be making a particular effort, not really much point for one.

If you are doing one of your slow cooker fork tender piggy roasts, then that will be a good standby for a few days.  Maybe some good bread and a few jacket potatoes to add to your order to make sure you have the necessary supplies for the leftovers  ;)

I’ve bought a frozen rib of beef joint from work and stashed it.  It is not massive, as I don’t want it hangIng around in the fridge for days, but big enough to for us both to be already looking forward to cold roast beef sandwiches on Boxing Day  :)

There's a turkey crown in the freezer for us.  I'm not that keen, much prefer the curry, pie etc made with the leftovers.

Totally agree.  Christmas leftovers are the best  :D
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Lardman on December 11, 2022, 10:15
Maybe some good bread and a few jacket potatoes to add to your order to make sure you have the necessary supplies for the leftovers  ;)
Thanks for the reminder - baking spuds now added, bread flour was already there.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: snowdrops on December 11, 2022, 14:59
Maybe some good bread and a few jacket potatoes to add to your order to make sure you have the necessary supplies for the leftovers  ;)
Thanks for the reminder - baking spuds now added, bread flour was already there.

What about the ingredients for hm coleslaw or a tub of bought, I love it with cold meats & a jacket potato, in fact I’ve just planned the menu up to Christmas Eve & will have gammon,jacket potatoes & coleslaw that evening, one of my favourite Christmas Eve dinners as then I’ve got all the twiddly bits already sorted . :D
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Christine on December 11, 2022, 15:15
Twiddly bits? If you are invited round to my daughter's for Christmas lunch you either join in the working kitchen circus or starve.  :)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Lardman on December 11, 2022, 17:14
I find coleslaw like gherkins, I'll have a run on it where I can't get enough, then go off it for a months. Speaking of twiddly bits - I might add some twiglets as a treat.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: snowdrops on December 11, 2022, 18:32
Twiddly bits? If you are invited round to my daughter's for Christmas lunch you either join in the working kitchen circus or starve.  :)

Twiddly bits = various salads, coleslaw, pickles & chutneys & maybe nibbles  :lol:

Yes if you’re invited here you’re expected to fully participate. If I go elsewhere I still end up in the kitchen
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: mumofstig on December 11, 2022, 18:48
Quote
snowdrops:  What about the ingredients for hm coleslaw or a tub of bought, I love it with cold meats & a jacket potato,
SNAP. I've always got a tub of HM in the fridge, seems right even just with cheese n crackers  :)
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on December 11, 2022, 21:15
with home-made biscuits (biscuits here are a simple flaky bread; my understanding is that what we call "cookies" here, you call biscuits there?).
From the recipes/pics online, they are much the same as our 'scones' but minus sugar in the mix, so guess your recipe may have arrived with the Scots/Irish  :)
Biscuits here are mostly quite flat and dry, but we do have thicker cookies, nowadays as well - just to complicate things  :D

I like scones, but southern biscuits are different from scones.  You can see a perfect southern biscuit, and the 3-ingredient recipe (flour, butter, buttermilk) here: https://www.whitelily.com/recipes/white-lily-three-ingredient-biscuits-99107/ (https://www.whitelily.com/recipes/white-lily-three-ingredient-biscuits-99107/)  The secret ingredient is the flour, which must be a self-rising soft winter wheat flour, which is lower in gluten, allowing it to rise and produce a flaky biscuit (if you use another kind of flour, higher in gluten, you won't get this result; the biscuits will be harder). This type of flour is found in our region, but very hard to find in the northern or western states.

The resulting biscuits are pillow-soft and flaky inside (not like pastry is flaky; biscuits are steamy and moist when freshly made).

I will admit to using a shortcut for the last few years.  There is a mix here called Bisquick that produces decent biscuits, but not great.  I may go back to completely from-scratch this year.

Although biscuits are wonderful with milk-and-flour based sausage gravy, another way they are wonderful is opened up while hot, buttered and drizzled with just a little honey. Or apple butter, peach butter, or your favorite jam or jelly.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: mumofstig on December 11, 2022, 21:54
Our cakes and scones are also made with  soft wheat flour though. https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/hints-&-tips/types-of-flour
and we have old recipes for buttermilk scones with the same ingredients as yours (except sugar) - I can however, happily accept that you believe yours are something different and better. ;)

Meanwhile this year, I am again attempting a decent Panettone - despite promising myself every year, that I WILL stop trying  *cue manic laughter*.....
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Subversive_plot on December 11, 2022, 22:32
Our cakes and scones are also made with  soft wheat flour though. https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/hints-&-tips/types-of-flour
and we have old recipes for buttermilk scones with the same ingredients as yours (except sugar) - I can however, happily accept that you believe yours are something different and better. ;)

Meanwhile this year, I am again attempting a decent Panettone - despite promising myself every year, that I WILL stop trying  *cue manic laughter*.....

Personally, I find "cue manic laughter", coupled with my "I break for hallucinations" bumper sticker, to be the perfect solution to rush-hour traffic, or parking for holiday shopping.  :lol:  Good luck with the Panettone!

Something I miss is home-made fruitcake.  I used to make it from a variation of my mother's recipe every year, but we have few family around that like it, and it's not worth making for one person (a few hours of mixing and baking, followed by a month of aging and drizzling with rum or bourbon).  Definitely not diet-friendly, but delicious IMO.  I take a pass on most store-bought fruitcake.
Title: Re: is it turkey for Christmas ?
Post by: Goosegirl on December 16, 2022, 10:58
Owing to illness and stuff our Christmas has taken rather a back seat this year. No decs or tree done but don't really care. We got our food orders done a couple of weeks ago, and are doing some meat joints cooking on 23rd with help from our niece so we can make sarnies on the day. Fish pie for Christmas Eve just needs topping with mash. It kind of brings it home that, even with our health problems etc, we have a lovely house and can keep warm, there's food if and when we want it, we have our dear family and friends either here or on the end of the phone, and have some presents to open on the day even though I bought mine - who cares! There's a lot to be thankful for here plus I have you all to chat with.  :)