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Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 13, 2008, 18:32
Possibly a daft question but how long before paper pots start to decompose?  Hopefully longer than my seeds take to germinate and move on to the polytunnel? They're on a layer of compost, also, do I need to water in an electric propagator or does the microclimate see to that?

Thanks.
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: richyrich7 on January 13, 2008, 20:40
2-3 months for full decomp, but the bottoms go first after about a month or so but with gentle handling they are fine, also depends on how you make your pots, and you may still need to water your propagator as some water will be lost through the vents .
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 13, 2008, 20:48
Quote from: "richyrich7"
2-3 months for full decomp, but the bottoms go first after about a month or so but with gentle handling they are fine, also depends on how you make your pots, and you may still need to water your propagator as some water will be lost through the vents .


Thank you.  I guess I only open the vents if the temp goes above 21, I'll keep checking it.
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: richyrich7 on January 13, 2008, 22:35
Becareful where you site a heated propagator I've fried seeds before now in mine,
heated prop + greenhouse + sunny day = popcorn  :lol:
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 13, 2008, 22:39
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Becareful where you site a heated propagator I've fried seeds before now in mine,
heated prop + greenhouse + sunny day = popcorn  :lol:


We don't have electricity on the lottie, it's actually in my kitchen at the moment, but possibly too near the oven so may have to put it in the living room or even my bedroom, not sure yet!
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: richyrich7 on January 13, 2008, 22:45
Just keep it out of direct sunlight before the seeds appear.
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: DD. on January 13, 2008, 22:48
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 13, 2008, 23:01
Quote from: "DD."
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).


Perhaps your house is warmer than mine :lol:
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 13, 2008, 23:02
Quote from: "richyrich7"
Just keep it out of direct sunlight before the seeds appear.


Not much sunlight in here in the winter, actually that's a point I'm going to have to open the curtains, I never open my living room curtains or the local friendly drunk normally stops in front of the house (apart 3' from the window) to shout at me!
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mushroom on January 14, 2008, 04:19
Quote from: "DD."
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).


I need to get a seed propogator tomorrow. (I mean today. later this morning. :roll: The house is fine for most seeds (16-20C) but the real reason for getting it is JUST for the chili seeds - was surprised they need the soil so warm (25-35C from what I've read so far.....)
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: DD. on January 14, 2008, 05:32
Quote from: "mushroom"
Quote from: "DD."
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).


I need to get a seed propogator tomorrow. (I mean today. later this morning. :roll: The house is fine for most seeds (16-20C) but the real reason for getting it is JUST for the chili seeds - was surprised they need the soil so warm (25-35C from what I've read so far.....)


I must have a warm house then, never had any problem.  May have to re-assess my carbon footprint!
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: Rob the rake on January 14, 2008, 07:27
Quote from: "mushroom"
Quote from: "DD."
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).


I need to get a seed propogator tomorrow. (I mean today. later this morning. :roll: The house is fine for most seeds (16-20C) but the real reason for getting it is JUST for the chili seeds - was surprised they need the soil so warm (25-35C from what I've read so far.....)


Mushy, I manage without an electric propagator by sowing pepper seeds in lidded half-trays balanced on top of a radiator. A folded-up towel buffers the temperature and prevents overheating. As soon as they're up, I move them to a South-facing window, and transfer them to the (unheated) greenhouse in late Spring.
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: WG. on January 14, 2008, 07:38
Quote from: "Rob the rake"
 As soon as they're up,
I totally agree.  I have posted on this subject myself.  Once you have achieved germination then increase light and decrease warmth (consistent with species, of course).
Title: Paper pot question
Post by: mashauk on January 14, 2008, 12:07
Quote from: "mushroom"
Quote from: "DD."
I've always found no need for extra heat if the seeds are in the house. Seed tray inside a blown up plastic bag or with a cover has never let me down.

(Speaks too soon?).


I need to get a seed propogator tomorrow. (I mean today. later this morning. :roll: The house is fine for most seeds (16-20C) but the real reason for getting it is JUST for the chili seeds - was surprised they need the soil so warm (25-35C from what I've read so far.....)


As per my other post tamarorganics.co.uk are doing them for £5 plus 95p postage at the moment.