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Poultry and Pets => The Hen House => Topic started by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 19:24

Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 19:24
As per the title.

About 8 of the hens I inherited have very small combes and wattles. Some only just visible and very dull. Also a few have fatter legs than the others. I assume they are old and unlikely to lay?

Is this correct.

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 17, 2008, 20:07
No idea cudders, tho' colour of the comb does indicate laying, usually the brighter they are the better.

Hang about there will soon be more advice to follow  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Foxy on February 17, 2008, 20:18
could be old cudders - not too sure do you have any photos? rough raised scales  on the legs do indicate an older bird  though. Just a thought any evidence of scaley leg mite?
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 20:38
As yet I havent really got too close to them.

The hen house was a right mess. I've 'dug out' about a ton of poo so far, that's no joke! Just making a section for new stock before I fully clean it up and dust etc. Then I may reduce the flock to make way for some new ones.

I have about 25, all hybrids.

This pic is from about 6 weeks ago. I'll get some others this week.

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd261/cudders68/Chuck1.jpg)
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 17, 2008, 20:44
Their legs look really bad cudders. Bad scaly leg  :cry:

They need smothering with Vaseline to kill them off.  Have you treated all the accommodation for red mite too.  They won't be in laying condition if their health is not tip top.

You've done so well so far Cudders,  keep up the good work  :!:
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: ness on February 17, 2008, 20:50
Pale shrunken combs can be caused by red mite.  It might be worth treating for this.  Although it sounds and looks like they could do with some all round TLC. :(
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 20:53
Hi auntie,

Got some red mite powder today. I guess there is no point dusting till all the poop is removed and had a good clean down?

There are only a few like this. Most are nice and clean. Should I assume the infection is still alive as it hasnt spread?

I should be on the naughty step really. I've spent a tad too much time digging rather than sorting the chuck house out first... :oops:

Bit ashamed....

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 17, 2008, 20:57
If the other birds aren't getting infected then it is probably dead but do have a close look at their legs.  There is a picture in my lice and mites information topic in the Poultry Information section.
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 17, 2008, 20:59
Don't be ashaned cudders your sorting it out, IMHO I'd dust the birds now, and put some in their dust bath, lift out their perches and dip the ends in paraffin or paint if you cant get them out, dust under the joints where the perches meet supports.

To be honest when mine got red mite last year I took the blow torch to all the nooks and crannies and painted them with parrafin.

And do the vaseline thing pronto  :)

I use something called "gold label get rid organic lice powder" only place I've found it is on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-LABEL-GET-RID-ORGANIC-LICE-FLEAS-RED-MITE-KILLER_W0QQitemZ250212840393QQihZ015QQcategoryZ90863QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem) use it on the cats and guinea pigs too  :wink:
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 21:01
Just a reminder, the shed is big!

Its about 26ft long and 16 foot wide. The covered run is also a tad bigger than the shed.

Here's a piccy...taken about November not long after i got the lot...

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd261/cudders68/Hen3.jpg)

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 17, 2008, 21:02
Yep I remember massive init  :shock:
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 17, 2008, 21:09
Is there a recommended product to wash the shed down with?

Don't want to harm the chucks....

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 17, 2008, 21:22
Quote from: "cudders"
Is there a recommended product to wash the shed down with?

Don't want to harm the chucks....

Cudders


I use jeyes fluid But you have to be able to keep the hens off it until it's dry and ventilate well, you could probably get something more suitable from an agricultural merchant or even a pigeon fanciers supplier.
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 17, 2008, 21:32
You could try poultry shield cudders.  No need to remove the birds.

http://www.microshieldsolutions.com/agriculture/
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: ness on February 17, 2008, 21:44
I've heard a simple solution of dettol is good for get rid of red mite.
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Midwife on February 18, 2008, 18:10
My Gertie had scaley leg very badly. I had to take her to the Vet. He gave her an injection. (NOt sure what it was) and I covered her legs in vaseline every day. Her legs look good as new now. However one of her toes is deformed from it!  :(
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 21, 2008, 12:39
Well the poultry shield has been ordered and the 6 chucks with scaley leg have been vaselined. Also getting some leg rings so i can keep a better eye on them and know who's who.

Plan this weekend is a full scrub down and dusting. Still about half a ton of poop to shift...running out of places to stack it!

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 21, 2008, 12:41
Oh forgot to ask...

The red mite powder, do I just dust it on or do I need to fold the feathers back to apply?

Ta,

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Lost in France on February 21, 2008, 21:40
Cudders...where to stack the poop??? Compost heap then veg patch!

Judi
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 21, 2008, 21:45
Quote from: "cudders"
Oh forgot to ask...

The red mite powder, do I just dust it on or do I need to fold the feathers back to apply?

Ta,

Cudders


You're doing a great job cudders.  

When you've cleaned the house out sprinkle the red mite powder all about in the nooks and crannies where the red mite will be hiding during the day.  They don't usually go on to the birds until night time to feed on their blood. I add some dust mite stuff to the soil that they dust bathe in too.  That will help to get rid of any other little parasites.
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 21, 2008, 21:46
Quote from: "cudders"
Oh forgot to ask...

The red mite powder, do I just dust it on or do I need to fold the feathers back to apply?

Ta,

Cudders


I tend to fold the feathers back as you put it, gets closer to the skin that way. If I'm feeling lazy I give a quick sprinkle when they have roosted for the night straight on to them, but mine are used to me going in and out the shed after dark.
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 22, 2008, 08:33
Quote from: "Lost in France"
Cudders...where to stack the poop??? Compost heap then veg patch!

Judi


I've so far given away 62 x 25kg bags (old feed bags) full of poop to other lot holders and all my beds have been manured with it. Also have four big piles around the lot. The last quarter to dig out is deep! I dug out a hole last night and it's 14" deep!

Must have been a years worth at least to start with...oh my aching back.

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 11:28
Sounds like a nightmare cudders  :shock:  Poor bl**dy chooks.  :evil:  Their luck has changed now they have found you  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 22, 2008, 12:25
I hope so  :?

They seem ok apart from the ones mentioned and they have started jumping onto my arms now which is nice. I looked like Dr Doolittle the other day  :lol:

I'll take some pics to show progress soon. Goona give it my full focus till it's sorted.

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 12:26
Thanks cudders.  Looking forward to your picture update  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Viv on February 22, 2008, 12:48
Oh my goodness me, you have certainly got a project there. I have just read from the start of the thread and can only send you my best wishes and loads of positive thoughts with your tasks in hand. You are a star in my book for taking it on and giving the chickens a better life than they had before. I will certainly be reading all that you post re your project :D  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 12:51
Hear hear Viv  :!:

Three chears for cudders

Hip hip....
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 22, 2008, 19:31
Quote from: "Aunt Sally"
Hear hear Viv  :!:

Three chears for cudders

Hip hip....


Hooray  (http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/4.gif)

Yes blooming well done, no wonder they are pleased to see you cudders  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 19:37
Hip hip...
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Louise on February 22, 2008, 19:41
Hurray   :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: richyrich7 on February 22, 2008, 19:42
Quote from: "Aunt Sally"
Hip hip...


Hooray !
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 19:46
Well done Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on February 22, 2008, 21:58
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Shucks....I'm all red now!

I never intented to have chucks but getting them free is a bonus although they were not well looked after  :cry:

I was a bit wary at first, never touched a real one before but they are so friendly and I'm really attached to them now. Just sat with one for 15 mins tonight. A nice experience.

Just hope they all pep up when the big clean up is done.  :)

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on February 22, 2008, 22:07
A nice clean up, good food and some lovely greens,  a bt of warmth and sunsine on their backs and they will be happy hens  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: cudders on March 16, 2008, 18:37
Well, its been a couple of weeks since the clean up.

The chucks are dusted, have apple cider vinegar in the water and are being wormed as we speak.

They are all, even the ones with small combes becoming nice and red  :D  :D

The egg production has also gone from three per day to seven so going in the right direction!

Cudders
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on March 16, 2008, 18:50
Sounds like you've done a great job cudders.

Looking forward to your latest pictures  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: ck2day on March 16, 2008, 19:29
Have just read this post from start to finish and you need a medal Cudders.  Thankfully there are still a few honest caring people around to look after their animals.  Am so glad to hear your hens are repaying you with eggs.  They must feel like they are in hen paradise now they have you to look after them

Well done to you

Claire
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Foxy on March 16, 2008, 22:35
Well done cudders! I know it has been challenging and a steep learning curve but you always had the chooks welfare first and foremost! :lol:  :lol:
Babe have you any medal aninimations???? :wink:
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: GrannieAnnie on March 16, 2008, 22:41
Yes, well done you cudders!!!!!!  More happy hens!!!!!!
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Jellyhead on March 17, 2008, 08:02
This will do Foxy

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/Frenchconnectionphoto47/Star.gif)

A gold star for Cudders, well done you, what a lovely story :wink:  :D
Title: Small combes and wattles
Post by: Aunt Sally on March 17, 2008, 08:58
Well deserved Cudders  :!:  :D