Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse

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Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« on: January 02, 2011, 12:35 »
You might have seen from another thread that I've manged to get myself a Greehouse via freecycle!

Brill news - and I need to start to move it soon.

From what the owner has told me I think

- its 12x8 in size (big un!)
- the glass has been held with silicon
- it has all the staging

Can you give me advice on how to break it down and move it to the allotment successfully. I'm guessing the most time consuming bit will be getting the glass out from the silicon - the silicon remove b&q sell is pricey - is there anything else i can use?

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 12:45 »
When you take it down label each of the pieces and take a lot of pictures for when you come to put it back together as it can be tricky if you dont know where anything goes, someone should be along soon with more of an idea than me, good luck :D :D
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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2011, 13:12 »
Is it wood construction or ally ?   Cheers,   Tony.
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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2011, 13:19 »
hi tony, i think its ally

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Re: Advice a disassembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2011, 13:27 »
Unfortunately the silicon holding the gals in place will make it very hard to get the glass out. This happened to me and I lost a fair few panes.
Once out the disassembly is very easy and will take no longer than 2 hours.
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Re: Advice a disassembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2011, 13:29 »
Unfortunately the silicon holding the gals in place will make it very hard to get the glass out. This happened to me and I lost a fair few panes.
Once out the disassembly is very easy and will take no longer than 2 hours.
A sharp blade to run under the Silicon should help in this instance!

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Re: Advice a disassembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2011, 14:39 »
Unfortunately the silicon holding the gals in place will make it very hard to get the glass out. This happened to me and I lost a fair few panes.
Once out the disassembly is very easy and will take no longer than 2 hours.
A sharp blade to run under the Silicon should help in this instance!

And safety Goggles ! also try a wall paper scraper, take piccies that helps a lot, even you could mark the joins a-a b-b etc
12 x 8 is a nice size :)
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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2011, 19:52 »
Having moved a 12' twice, and an 8x6 and a 6x6...
take a variety of spanners/adjustable wrenches/pliers as the nuts can be very tricky to get any rotation on
and WD40 will help
A junior hacksaw for nuts that won't loosen
try overtightening stuck nuts if they're alu, they'll shear and you can replace them with new ones
you should be able by loosening 2 nuts at each end of the long sides to keep your side panels and end panels together. with a 12' I would take all the roof struts off one side and remove the ridge and remaining struts as a unit
wear a hat if you're thinning as you will bang your head over and over!
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ps a small stepladder for lifting the panes our more easily
start at the roof and work along then down the sides
BUT when re-assembling a 12' I would not follow advice I have seen and glaze from the roof down, as the weight of the roof with glass will bow the middle of the sides and make it hard to get the side panes in...
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 10:08 by savbo »

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2011, 23:10 »
It would have been near on impossible to put my new greenhouse together if the individual parts hadn't been clearly labelled with stick-on numbers.

Assuming the one you are dismantling is well weathered it would be easier to paint numbers on each frame section with an artist's paintbrush and gloss paint, then make a rough sketch of each of the four sides recording which number occupies which position.

This simple technique automatically records not only the position but also the orientation (left to right, facing up or down, and of course inside or outside) of each piece (just remember to underline the 6 and 9!) Photos are a good back-up if your brain scrambles!

Good luck!  :)
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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 01:46 »
I took the easy route- hired a van that was kinda large, and just dismantled at the corners... so i jad a whole roof section and 4 wall sections to make it easier to put back together rather than dismantling the whole lot and having to re-build from scratch.
Then i took it straight to the plot and rebuilt it while i still remembered where everything went.... just the frame.... I'll put the glass back in when the weather's better and i've a level base built for it.

I know too many people who leave the rebuilding to another day and then can't rem what goes where.

A plot holder next to me just borrowed a trailer, and lifted the whole thing onto the back (taking the glass out first)... made it a doddle to re-build.

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 18:49 »
UPDATE

I went round today to start on the Greenhouse.
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The Silicone is pretty heavy going. Its right under the glass and into the frame. I really could not get thew first couple of frames of glass out. I think the only way to break it down is literally to smash the glass out!???

So, is that right? And, is it worth it for the frame?

I'm not sure I can afford all the glass just now, is it wise to cover the frame with fleece or plastic?

Thoughts?

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 19:31 »
To be honest , I would persevere with removing the glass if I was you.

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 20:02 »
take your time with a sharp thin knife straight down in line with the glass on both sides and you should be able to get the glass out whole the effort is worth it as the price of glass is so high

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 20:26 »
hmmm....not sure....the silicone seems to have been applied by lining the actual frame then pressing the glass in...this means the silisone is in deeper than perhaps a sharp knife could access

a very good job at the time but making it almost impossible to remove

is it worth it just for the frame?

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Re: Advice a dissasembly of Greenhouse
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 22:42 »
hmmm....not sure....the silicone seems to have been applied by lining the actual frame then pressing the glass in...this means the silisone is in deeper than perhaps a sharp knife could access

a very good job at the time but making it almost impossible to remove

is it worth it just for the frame?
not really unless you can get more than half the glass out try sillacone remover not sure if you can still get it but it is/was a solvent that dissolved sillacone and was really handy in window fiting/removel



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