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Title: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Aidy on May 21, 2019, 16:45
After making a comment a few mins ago it got me thinking, I will often make a little banter remark about us over here in Lancashire and those over in Yorkshire, all good humour and of course our good friend Yorkie will often reply with more banter.
With us of course this stems back to the owd days and the war of the roses, carrying on to present on the sports field.
So do other counties have the same fierce rivallery? I know local towns/ cities will.
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: JayG on May 21, 2019, 18:07
Don't think Yorkshire can match the historic rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United, although some of the North and South London clubs may get to differ.

Locally, the 'red' half of Sheffield is stricken with grief that Leeds United won't be joining them in the Premier League next season.  :lol:
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Aidy on May 21, 2019, 20:38
As I say JG I expect local towns particulary in sports but wondered if the rivalry extended to counties!
History was never really of interest but I cant ever remember the war between Norfolk and Suffolk say.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: DanielCoffey on May 21, 2019, 21:50
It is said that folks in Jersey love a red sky at night because they think it is Guernsey on fire.
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Yorkie on May 25, 2019, 21:53
After making a comment a few mins ago it got me thinking, I will often make a little banter remark about us over here in Lancashire and those over in Yorkshire, all good humour and of course our good friend Yorkie will often reply with more banter.

Or just a  :tongue2:

 :lol: :wub: 8)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Paul Plots on May 26, 2019, 10:37
Sussex - once a county in its own right - was sliced in two over night.

I am not sure there is any rivalry but believe many in the west (like me) still regard our county as Sussex and not West Sussex until, that is, we have to write or give our postal address.

Quite how people in the "east" think I have no idea - we don't speak much ;)

It could be different along the adjoining fringe towns of West and East Sussex - perhaps there is a rivalry but we were part of the same county for so long we are a pretty altogether bunch (I think??)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: mrs bouquet on May 26, 2019, 10:43
Do we Paul - Yes I guess we do  :lol: :lol:  Mrs Bouquet
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Paul Plots on May 26, 2019, 16:16
Do we Paul - Yes I guess we do  :lol: :lol:  Mrs Bouquet

I guess you are a bit nearer to East Sussex than me  :lol: but not a lot ;)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Goosegirl on May 27, 2019, 13:45
I thought the War of the Roses was to do with who won the RHS award for the best greenfly and non-chemical sprays in order to combat the unforeseen invaders from nobbling our best chemists for nefarious reasons but  obviously I got it wrong. If anyone has the time to delve into the history of how Lancashire and Yorkshire were formed here's a link:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancashire
GG x
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Aidy on May 27, 2019, 23:47
Wiki has it wrong GG for it was created by him upstairs hence why it is commonly referred as Gods own county!  ;)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Paul Plots on May 28, 2019, 10:28
Although I have never lived there, my family originated in the Yorkshire Dales and I love the place. But, over the generations the area the family came from seems to have swapped from Yorkshire to Lancashire and back again without them moving more than a mile or two. How's that then?

Squabbles and confusion back in the 1700s?

(PS They were gardeners and growers then apart from one blacksmith at the beginning of the chain).
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Aidy on May 28, 2019, 13:26
Although I have never lived there, my family originated in the Yorkshire Dales and I love the place. But, over the generations the area the family came from seems to have swapped from Yorkshire to Lancashire and back again without them moving more than a mile or two. How's that then?

Weirdly and strangly I heard that on my mothers side they did the same. Her maiden is Holden, I met with a distant relative of hers and she told us of some of the family history.
It appears we had a highway man on that side, he was caught, hung drawn and quaterd. Now then (bit of Yorkie coming out (wheres that bar of soap)) it also looks like the Holdens of Lancashire were originally the Howdens of Yorkshire or it maybe the opposite! I hear they would flit between the two when they were doing the censous many moons ago to confuse the powers that be!
Always wondered where my anti establishment/ anarchy genes came from  ???
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: hamstergbert on May 28, 2019, 17:37
With regard to the non-moving changes of address, I am minded of an old Russian joke (told to me by an old Russian, of course):

An old man is being interviewed on a Soviet TV station before the heady days of Perestroika/Glastnost.
He is asked where he was born. "St. Petersburg."
And where did he grow up? "Petrograd."
Where does he live now? "Leningrad."
Where would he prefer to be buried when he dies? With a wistful sigh, he answers, "St. Petersburg."

HGB
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Didiaskew on May 29, 2019, 05:46
Wiki has it wrong GG for it was created by him upstairs hence why it is commonly referred as Gods own county!  ;)
I think you'll find that's Yorkshire  ;)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: Aidy on June 04, 2019, 16:10
Wiki has it wrong GG for it was created by him upstairs hence why it is commonly referred as Gods own county!  ;)
I think you'll find that's Yorkshire  ;)
Errm, thats whats the thousands of Yorkies tell me (that live in Lancashire)  ;)
Title: Re: Is it a Lancashire/ Yorkshire thing or..
Post by: jezza on July 14, 2019, 19:03
Hello just to confuse you Aidy my local church has records of both Holdens and Howdens with Holdens spelt Hollden and a Holden from Preston in Lancashire married a Howden from the town of Howden bet that was some battle at the wedding jezza