Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Chatting => Equipment Shed => Topic started by: Scouse on March 18, 2012, 07:08
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>:( We bought this tiller second hand 3 years ago, it's been a pain to start from the off, we have had to get it serviced twice. At the end of last year I empted the fuel and put it into our dry garage for this year, but low and behold would it run and do its duty would it heck. It will start but then splutter to a halt. I have checked the air filter which is clean as a whistle, the spark plug is black, but surelly that is because it has not burned the fuel? Other persons on the lotte say it might have dirt in the carb, but not wanting to spend more money on it, I carn't find any info on the web on how to clean the carb. Any ideas?
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When you say you emptied the fuel, did you also emty the carb bowl?
If you left some petrol in there, that'll be why it won't start now most likely.
The bowl has a nut directly on the bottom and should also have a small bolt just to one side of it. Undo that one and you will get out some very yellow stale fuel. Remeber to turn the fuel tap off first and don't smoke! :)
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Pull the oil sensor out, bet it works then
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Hi, Whats the oil sensor, do you mean the dip stick?
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No its an electrical wire (probably with a spade connection) just have a look around the side of the engine, and pull it off at the spade, then give it a try, in not familiar with the type you have so i cant tell you exactly where it is, if you cant fine it, have a look in a parts book
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It will look like the TOP of this, the rest is buried in the motor, tell me how you get along
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-LOW-OIL-SENSOR-SWITCH-8HP-9HP-11HP-13HP-FITS-HONDA-GX240-GX270-GX340-GX390-/120865700920?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c24283c38
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Hi the FG201 does not have a oil sensor. I have taken out all the petrol from tank and loosened the fuel drain screw, from which more petrol came out. It was quite fresh looking. Is there away of blowing any muck out of the carb, or is it a strip down job done by a professional?
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Try pouring petrol into where the air intake/filter is, you will only need a splash in there. Then try starting it
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Fuel will go stale,best to replace it if its over 6 months old, clean it in either petrol or paraffin, helps if you have an airline to blow crud out
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We have an air compressor at work, would it work if I placed end of air line in the air inlet?
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Yea but clean it as best you can first, then let it soak over night, clean it out again, and then use the air, could just be the needle sticking, you can get carb cleaner, saves you faffing about and doing all that, could be just some crud sticking the needle ( if there is one) sorry but im in to car engines, and there so different from lawnmowers
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Hi again all,
Which carb cleaner would you recommend? Do you know where I can get a maintenance manual for this machine as i don't want to start taking any old screw out to get to the carb?
:)
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Im new here, but i think there's a sticky some place, where you can upload them??? any carb cleaner will do, just go to a parts place or halfords (for over priced goods) and they have loads on the shelf
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:) Hi found this on ebay Carplan 500ML CARB / CARBURETTOR CLEANER Aerosol will that do?
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I also have redex in the garage but that would need to be added to the petrol, so I don't think that will work until I can get the think running longer than a couple of seconds. I did try again today but with the old fuel in it, it did start but then died straight away, so muck must be blocking the carb.
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redex isn't what you want, it keeps it clean as its running, that's why you fill up the tank and use it, dont put it in, you wont use it long enough for it to make a difference, its an additive
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:) Cheers, I get some carb sclearner spray then. :D
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:) Cheers, I get some carb sclearner spray then. :D
Carb cleaner is no magic bullet so I wouldn't get your hopes up,
I use it mainly ,as an easy start spray to fire up an engine that has been stood or to blast through the galleries and jets after the later have been removed.
If the carb on your engine has a similar design to most Honda carbs then once the float chamber has been removed,there should be a main jet inside the centre tube and beyond it will be an emulsion tube.The tube does not always drop out so may need gentle persuasion on the end that is visible through the venturi.
Could you post a picture of the carb as the engine is only small and may be a diaphragm type so the above would not apply.
edit: I have just re read your earlier post and can see you have drained fuel from the carb so that seems to suggest that the first part here may help.
smud6ie
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Is the spark 'constant', and not just if and when it feels like it?
If it was anything like mine, it could be the points, I thought ours didn't have them, but found it did :blush:.
They maybe dirty too.
Ours was dirty and the gap was too big.
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If all else fails, then look at these guys http://www.carbex.demon.co.uk/index.html i have a solex carb on my `1958 Land Rover it came back like new, dont worry they dont have your in stock for exchange, they will still clean yours
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Ok, I have taken off the air cleaner housing and sprayed some carb cleaner through the air intake. The engine starts then dies. I have tried about 10 times still the same. I am going to leave it so the cleaner can soak abit. I have attached a couple of photos of the engine with air cleaner housing off. There is a number by the carb which is 24cARJ1.
Any help is much appreciated.
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Hey scouse, did you get it working in the end? did it run for longer if you poured a dash of petrol through the air intake/carb?
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Follow the cable from the switch on the handles to the engine. When you push the switch to the off position you will see a mechanism move which basically earths the engine. Disconnect the end of the cable which touches this mechanism.
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This thread is a year old so I would hope the problem has been sorted by now ;) :)
If it has been fixed or not,it does highlight a point that has been mentioned before that it would be nice if the OP of a plea for help would come back with some feedback so others with a similar problem may find a solution .
smud6ie
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Couldn't agree more :)
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Did you put back in the fuel you drained out?
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I have the same problem every year and usually end up stripping my 45 year old machine down each year cleaning it and rebuilding it to get it running, this year even that hasnt worked as although I have it running its not starting reliably, time to swap over to the backup 'spares' machine I think, there seemed a lot of end float on the drive shaft for my liking.
Grendel
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Me again. Well its back to starting up the beast and will it start na. >:( I have drained all the fuel last season, then today used clean fresh fuel. I did get it going last year but it had to have a new spark plug and a visit to the engineers.