Autumn Planting

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Autumn Planting
« on: August 01, 2012, 10:02 »
I知 looking through the gardening catalogues for autumn planting veg (Onions, Garlic, Cabbage, Cauliflower etc). Being my first year on the allotment I have never planted over the Autumn/Winter period before. Is it more reliable to grow on the allotment during this period and do the crops generally grow bigger?

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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 10:22 »
Last year I bought plants of cauliflower and winter onion sets neither of which provided anything worthwhile.

The kale and winter cabbage were much better ( I sowed thse myself, but realise it's too late now for you to do so)

Garlic always seems to do better here when autumn planted - but not onions. It's weird  :wacko:

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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 10:34 »
Actual Autumn planting, Onions, Garlic and Broad Beans only.
Kale, Sprouts and Chard will also be in during the winter but have already been planted out.

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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 13:01 »
Garlic needs frost to help bulk it up for the following year. Never tried doing autumn sowing of broad beans - how do others find it?
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 14:30 »
Garlic needs frost to help bulk it up for the following year. Never tried doing autumn sowing of broad beans - how do others find it?

Usually, I do autumn sow broad beans.  I didn't last year as I was pretty busy and never got around to it.  My crop, as a result, was far less than the year before despite being the same variety.  I do cloche my broad beans over the worst of winter though although I believe some varieties are supposed to be winter hardy.
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 17:41 »
Garlic needs frost to help bulk it up for the following year.

Only if it's an autumn-sown variety.  There are spring-sown varieties too  :)
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 18:31 »
Actual Autumn planting, Onions, Garlic and Broad Beans only.
Kale, Sprouts and Chard will also be in during the winter but have already been planted out.

my kale is still in pots, going out this week

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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 19:43 »
Still to sow Spring cabbage and winter hardy spring onions.

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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 21:08 »
i started off savoy cabbage seeds today. Not too late is it!??
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 00:15 »
I really don't think it's too late for some brassicas. As I said in another post my Tundra and Savoy cabbage and early and late psb are only at the two leaf stage. I've just potted them on but if you sow now they'll catch up. I would even give perennial spinach and swiss chard a go. As long as they're established before the frosts they'll go through the winter and produce next year too before flowering.
My red cabbage, autumn cabbage and 3 types of kale went in a while ago and are thriving  and my brussels and summer psb (couple of spears already!) are 3' tall but I'll do a sowing of spring cabbage and more black kale in a couple of weeks. Don't get much off the late sown kale before winter but it's hardy and produces abundantly through spring, long after the earlier ones finish.
I also find salad crops prefer it later and are less inclined to bolt when it gets cooler; pak choi, lamb's lettuce, mizuna, rocket, lettuce (and there are some hardy lettuce that will go through the winter uncloched)
I've got a late sowing of beetroot just germinating and there's still just time for a late sowing of carrots (Autumn King) and turnips.
You could even sow beans which grow pretty quickly. I've got some about 4" high that need to be planted out soon.
Then in October/November you can plant overwintering broad beans (Aquadulche) onion sets and garlic but remember they take up the space for a long time so plan your next year's planting.
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 01:54 »
I did really well with onion sets last/ this year and don't forget jeruselum atrichokes.
I f you are planting sowing now there are lots of things but if you are talking Oct then you are more recstricted. there are a few recent threads regarding waht can be sown now.
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Re: Autumn Planting
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2012, 21:02 »
Last year I had great success with autumn sown onion sets and garlic, as well as cauliflowers, kale and both winter and spring cabbages, as well as spinach
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