Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Chatting => Design and Construction => Topic started by: stickmeup on June 14, 2013, 08:48
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I've had my plot now just comign on a year in July, it's been a hard slog but we are getting there, just had the opportunity to extend it to now what will be 3 plots and include a rather large building which has been used for pigeons previously but is quite clean and tidy inside as it has been looked after, needs a bit of an overhaul, but living room, kitchen, toilet/room and storage room will be sorted, well happy
Here's a pic of the allotment how it stands at the moment, you can just see the shed on the right at a geight
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The shed itself
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and it's got some decent space in it, and it's well built :)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1006140_10151243079812325_933828807_n.jpg)
Focus has turned from the pallet shed that i was building to this, the pallets will be used for decking where the origional shed will be going with some furniture made up aswell
got a canny lil view out of the double doors onto my allotment aswell :)
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the hard work continues :)
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Mind the Council don't start charging you rates on something as big as that ::) :nowink:
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Good job you are not on our site, we have a new build that is causing some right arguements and its nowhere near that large.
The one on our site is not huge but it is 12 foot high and the old boys are in outrage as it causes a fair amount of shade. ::)
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Thankfully the site Im on is a pigeon site, so all of the plots basically have/are buildings like this, apart from my main one, which is the only true growing plot on site
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My 'plot' (well, back garden) is also a 'pigeon site' and will probably remain so unless some kind soul lends me a 12-bore.....
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Sorted, it's now mine :)
Means my planned pallet shed, is now turning into this :)
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Hell's teeth - that's not a shed it's a housing complex!!
Amazing.
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It is a fair size like, lol, pixcture dont do it justice
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It is a fair size like, lol, pixcture dont do it justice
An chance of putting some corrugated plastic in somewhere so you could use it to grow in?
A grape vine?
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I could do, its fairly hot in there already and gets a fair bit of light, but with the roof being pretty solid, and pretty big, im not really waiting to mess with it, lol
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Perhaps replace a few side panels?
Early tomoatoes... late potatoes, indoor early french bean crop?
Just a thought.
Either that or you could breed budgies. ;)
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Breed budgies? lol
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So, had it just over a week now, and work has been going strong :)
This is how we started
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/stickmeup/1E9C1911-7C2B-45AD-89A7-3951F8433B7E-3680-0000020306E3232F_zps8d386edb.jpg) (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/stickmeup/media/1E9C1911-7C2B-45AD-89A7-3951F8433B7E-3680-0000020306E3232F_zps8d386edb.jpg.html)
and now, still needs a lot of work but alot safer instead of having an old gate resting on the beams
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/stickmeup/18DD110C-C224-46CC-9B83-E2EAD5A5634B-3680-00000202D56C6A32_zpse84dd2b8.jpg) (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/stickmeup/media/18DD110C-C224-46CC-9B83-E2EAD5A5634B-3680-00000202D56C6A32_zpse84dd2b8.jpg.html)
and a view from the new double glazed window during a thunder storm
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Just taken on a 4th plot now, with another big building, and 13 chickens on it, lol
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and the new toy :)
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Hope you can keep up with the weeds on four plots. We find three can be difficult :blink:
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Hope you can keep up with the weeds on four plots. We find three can be difficult :blink:
Never mind the weeds... what about all the structural repairs, painting and window cleaning. I've seen smaller villages in some parts. ;)
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Im quite handy with the old DIY, and have great friends and family who are always willing to pitch in if I need help :)
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What on earth will you do with all that space?
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The bigger building will become a lounge/kitchen/play room for the kids, the smaller building will be for storage of tools and equipment, stuff i need to keep dry etc, got some decking down the bottom for bbq's etc and then as much as possible will be crammed with fruit and veg along with the 2 greenhouses :)
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Sonds as if you have your weekends ear-marked for quite some time to come. ;)
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and evenings during the summer lol, my 3 young kids and wife love it so it's nice that we spend time as a family up there together :)
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and evenings during the summer lol, my 3 young kids and wife love it so it's nice that we spend time as a family up there together :)
I am so envious of you........and whilst everyone agrees that you have a lot of work ahead of you, involving the children and making it a family thing is brilliant. Looks forward to reading about your progress.
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Questions, questions, questions!!! Are you sure your palace is on an allotment site? If you're the only one growing anything what the hell do the rest of them do and why is it still called an allotment site? What exactly is a "pigeon site"? Did you miss the aitch out? Finally, if you Google "Sheds with Beds" you can work out roughly what you can charge.
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Questions, questions, questions!!! Are you sure your palace is on an allotment site? If you're the only one growing anything what the hell do the rest of them do and why is it still called an allotment site? What exactly is a "pigeon site"? Did you miss the aitch out? Finally, if you Google "Sheds with Beds" you can work out roughly what you can charge.
A pigeon site in the NE of England is a site that has a pre-dominance of pigeon fanciers. We have pigeon sites in Sunderland that usually - but not always have very few plot holders that grow stuff. Instead, their plot is home to their pigeon lofts. I can see the sense in the arrangement as I personally wouldn't want pigeon lofts on our site. On plot holder is causing all kinds of problems with his white pigeons (sorry doves!). So - are pigeon sites allotment sites then? Well you tell me!
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Exactly that CDave
The site which holds around 30 odd plots is basically owned by people who keep, and race pigeons. There is only one main 'growing' garden which is ours, but a few people are starting to use spare space and get some veg in, not quite to the scale we have though. No issues with it being a pigeon site, they are either in their lofts, or they are out flying (so not eating our veg) but we are right next to a park which has a lot of wood pigeons so we take the usual precautions with netting etc.
I suppose pigeon sites arent allotment sites, unless like us, you have 1 growing garden in the middle of it, luckily this meant there was no waiting list, so we were straight in, also the reason we have been able to expand up to 4 plots so easily
Plenty of work has been going on, and will continue to do so over the next couple of weeks/months/years lol
sorted some entertainment for the kids
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Wondered why my lil man was quiet all of a sudden
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Decking is looking good after a lick of treatment
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Greenhouse is finally up
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Well, work is well and truly underway with the new building
Before
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After
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Before
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After
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and from inside
Before
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After
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New to do list
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You've definitely put some hard graft into the buildings. Well done. Look forward to seeing the comparisons by next year 8)
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Just picked up the kitchen last night :) Need some work doing before it gets fitted, including fitting the pvc window in that wall :)
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you could turn that into a holiday let at the rate you are going!
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Shhhhhhhhh. Dont tell the council, lol
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WOW.....just wow :=]
CdT
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Just realised I missed an update on the pvc windows
Started as this
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Had to make a hole for the new window
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Thought Id nailed it
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Nope, wasnt big enough, had misjudged it, where's the scorpion gone, whole wall out! lol
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trial fit (and yes thats rain outside, i fitted it during one of thos freak thunderstorms lol
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Fitted and glass in
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Jobs a goodun
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From inside
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Looks alot nicer in there now
Whole lot will be caldded on the outside using broken up pallets to make it look am bit nicer :)
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Looks like all your hard work will turn out to be a gem. Nice job so far.
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What scares me is that the building is as big as some studio flats they are selling in London and not too far from us now at an extortionate rate and you can get on an allotment for a tiny bit of money up north :wacko:
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Yeah its a great size to work with, gonna end up doign a lot of the work I have planned over the winter i think, tried to see if I could get some artificial grass yesterday from a friend at work who's husband is a supplier of the stuff, no go though, would have made an awesome flooring for the shed
Trying to decide what to do with the interior walls, a mix of plasterboard and skimming and a couple of feature pallet wood walls are going to be the plan i think
All needs a damn good clear out and a paint, and really need to sort out the flooring front aswell
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Just taken on a 4th plot now, with another big building, and 13 chickens on it, lol
Blimey! I stuggle with 2 plots, Shed envy as well.... mine is a mear 8x6
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Lol, well there's myself with wife and 2 kid, and my inlaws all within the 4 plots, so we help each other out
Im excited to get the shed done, may enter shed of the year next year lol
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Evening all
Some may have seen my previous post about the pallet shed I was creating, unfortunately do to taking a massive building on at the allotment, it is no longer needed, so thought I would do a little update on my decking and seating area
I had already flattened everything and laid down a layer of pallets ready for the shed, not really much I could use the space for and I wanted somewhere for the kids to be able to chill out while we were working if they weren't helping out (ages 3, 6 and 8)
This is how the space looked just as I took on the new building which you can see above on the top tier of our allotment
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We decided about the chill out area, and quickly made a change
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Idea was to have a seating area with a table in the middle
It stayed like that for a while the main allotment work took over, but it was still used by the kids as was
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Ive recently had a bit more time to work on it, so I started filling in all the gaps with broken down pallets (the idea is it will all be covered over like this)
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and this is how it stayed until yesterday.
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I had received a fire pit from a friend who was having a clear out in his garden, and along with a load of old wood and tree trunks for a bug hotel, I took them home
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idea was, to make something similar to this using it
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so I took the firepit/bin down to the allotment during the week, and tested it out :)
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and so yesterday morning came, was planned for rain, but woke up at 8ish and not a cloud in the sky, quickly got ready, sorted my gear and off to the allotment we go
Time to get a lot of pallets stripped
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the stock
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and one of the best tools in the world, the scorpion saw
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Started filling in some of the tops of the seat, the backs of the seats and the floor
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also started on the firepit come table
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couple of pallets with the middles cut out, placed over the top of the bin itself to help cover the sides and make it a bit prettier
I then covered the front of it, still need to do the back and the sides, and made a top out of another pallet, which then forms the top for the table, and can be removed to reveal the fire pit underneath
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1260891_10151374439152325_1499389727_n.jpg)
and just as a table
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and this is where im up to at the moment, still a lot to do, and need to decide if im going to cover the front bottom of the seats or leave them as they are
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I also need to decide what to paint/stain it in, I have some ronseal dark oak which I get for £6 for a massive tub, but I like all the different colours of the pallets, and don't know if I want it all 'uniformed' like the decking ive done on the top tier as below
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Ive also used it where ive fitted the new pvc windows, so may be worth just using it, especially for £6 a tub
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So, thanks for looking, would love to know peoples thoughts and opinions, Ive put it all here as I like creating full threads/blogs and it gives me something to refer back to, and I love to give people ideas aswell. Also found an old cable reel lying about, so plan to turn it into a footstool or a table for when the firepit is in use :)
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Thanks for reading/looking :)
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Bit more graft done over the weekend, had the fire on saturday morning as was a bit cold
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had to make some steps between the 2 bottom tiers as the ones that were there were just a couple of stones blocks so not very safe
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Made a quick start on my woodshed
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Couple of steps in from the main top tier to the main bottom tier aswell, still plenty to do though
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Worked out so far its cost me about £45 8)
and finally, me just using it for what its there for, lol
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Our Committee would have kittens! Still congratulations.
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That's wonderful! You are very resourceful :)
I can't even get one pallet to finish off my compost bins, never mind all those.
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Lol thankyou
We have no commitee, so no issue, lol
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Just had a read through the thread and Im sitting thinking of plans and jobs to do ready for after Christmas and 2014 :)
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Just had a read through the thread and Im sitting thinking of plans and jobs to do ready for after Christmas and 2014 :)
Remember to share - and post more photos!
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There'll be plenty of them, lol
Need to try and decide what Im doing the inside of the building with, plasterboard and then skim it or something else? Trying to keep costs down as much as possible ideally
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Happy new year everyone :)
Had a chance for a little visit over the Christmas period to get up to the allotment, greenhouse is smashed to smitherines which isnt good, need to find a replacement for the glass
Here's where I'll be adding the kitchen window once I get a decent dry day to do it
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Been trying to sort out where to put the settee's in the living room, and I think this is the wall where Im going to do a feature wall made from pallets :)
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Hiopefully just sorted some double glazed window panes to run down the full length of the front of the building where the current horrible fibreglass stuff is, should open it up and make it look alot nicer :)
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and the to do list
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Looks big enough to use as a holiday let for townies who might be interested in a taste of the Good Life. :lol:
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Lol cheers Paul hahaha
So, more work done over the weekend :)
Idea was to at least try and get the kitchen window in, and get the interior of the building cleaned out further
Outside before i started
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and inside
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and after the dindow was added
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Had a fire on the decking whilst all this was going on (literally, the outside of the pallet fire pit caught fire so i had to rip it apart, gonna have to think of a better way of making the pit look nice lol, hosepipe came in handy haha)
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The wife cam and joined us for lunch, and a cuppa :)
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Do you ever have time to actually grow any veg ???
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Lol, yes, but I leave most of that to my wife and kids and my mother in law unless I’ve ran out of repairs/development stuff lol
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It's hard graft working at the allotment lol
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What you need is to borrowour site warden (you could keep him if you wish) and then you could play hunt the corrugated iron sheet. That'd prevent those periods of boredom and laying flat.
PS You need curtains or blinds so you can see out to supervise the workers but not be seen working hard to organise from the control centre. ;)
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What you need is to borrowour site warden (you could keep him if you wish) and then you could play hunt the corrugated iron sheet. That'd prevent those periods of boredom and laying flat.
Cor - you're not forgetting this corrugated iron!
Looks like an ideal moment though
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Still need to get some work done on this!
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