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Headgardener22

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Re: tomatoes
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2015, 12:14 »

experiments have shown that sowing that early only results in fruiting a few days earlier that plants from seeds sown in April - unless heat, and preferably light, is also provided.

That was why I was interested in whether it made a difference. :)

What I am trying to work out is how much/little mollycoddling makes a difference.

In 2013, I sowed Blooody Butcher tomatoes in early March in a heated greenhouse and planted them out (in an unheated greenhouse) in late May, getting the first Tomatoes at the end of July.

In 2014, I sowed blooming Butcher in late February and left them to their own devices, planted them out in late May in the same unheated greenhouse and got the first tomatoes 1 week earlier. (Latah, given the same treatment were 2 weeks earlier than that).

The number of weeks cropping was the same and the average weight per plant was also the same.

This year, I've sown Blooody Butcher on the 1st March and my plan is to pot them up sooner as I read somewhere that potting them up after only a few days of growth gets earlier tomatoes.

My interest was whether adding light (rather than heat) would get stronger plants, earlier fruit, more fruit per plant or whatever or whether everything is down to random events over which we have no control.  :D

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Re: tomatoes
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2015, 08:11 »
There are some indications that "stressing" the plants somewhat will give earlier tomatoes. In practice that means leaving them in a small pot a bit too long. They will switch to flower production because of the stress, instead of staying in the growth phase.

In theory.

I have some anecdotal experience with it and this was confirmed by the experiences of someone else. But I haven't done side by side comparisons yet, so it could all be nonsense/biased observations.

I think I started mine too early again, although I started later than last year. There isn't a problem right now, but once I need to start transplanting them I will run out of space soon.

Here is one tray.

These ones are mostly bush types suitable to colder conditions and are meant to go out a bit earlier than others. Maybe in the second half of May.

I was a bit fooled by the weather. In march (most tomato seed sown in the beginning of March) spring had seemingly started after an extremely mild winter. But now it is pretty cold again. It even snowed this morning.

On sunny days I can put my seedlings in my unheated greenhouse after 10 AM. At 9 AM there are often still iceflowers on the windows of the greenhouse. Around 3PM they have to come inside again, because the sun can't reach the greenhouse any more. The sun is pretty low in the sky still at this time of the year.

Logistics though. I am aiming for 100 to 150 plants this year. And I obviously do not have any space on the window sill for that. So I need sunny days and agreeable temperatures so the plants can go to the greenhouse during the day. I know that in late april and beginning of may I will have a logistical nightmare unless spring is exceptionally warm.

Maybe I will learn my lesson this year and plant most of my tomatoes in april next year.  ::)



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