Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Eating and Drinking => Homebrew => Topic started by: A. Fallowfield on July 02, 2009, 22:13
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I bought more than enough Lidl (the dearer one) 1½ litre apple juice, 78p each.
I put 2 cartons at room temperature in a sterilised demi-john.
The only yeast I had was Wilko’s (Youngs) wine yeast.
I included a heaped teaspoon of yeast nutrient, a teaspoon of pectolase and a little squeeze of lemon juice. Plus 2 pound of sugar.
I use a sterilised plain bung so’s I can pick it up and give it a damn good shake!
Don’t leave the bung in though, unless you like loud bangs! Fit an air lock.
When the initial froth had died down (couple of days) I topped it up with more apple juice (not from the fridge!!!)
It will then go berserk again, so keep a spare, clean air lock ready.
It will ferment a long time and clear beautifully!
I took the first bottle down the plot so’s my mate could try it. It is seriously strong, I do mean strong!
(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp141/Flatters_photos/pissplot.jpg)
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Hi I haven't got any demi johns what over container's could i use instead, also how long does it take to be ready.
Thanks in advance
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Hi I haven't got any demi johns what over container's could i use instead, also how long does it take to be ready.
Thanks in advance
Suppose you could always use a food grade plastic bucket, but you'd still need a top and an airlock otherwise you could end up with a lot of vinegar!
Freecycle's the best place for demi-johns.
I stopped mine frementing at seven weeks with camden tablets, it was perfectly clear too!
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Thanks for the advice
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Hi, i think what you have made is apple wine, i thought you only added 8oz. sugar and thats for a 7% cider for 5% add nothing, no wonder it's strong!!
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Hi, i think what you have made is apple wine, i thought you only added 8oz. sugar and thats for a 7% cider for 5% add nothing, no wonder it's strong!!
Well yes, but it is made with all apple juice, and I have wondered where scrumpy ends and apple wine begins! :wacko:
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When does something stop being cider and become wine?
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When does something stop being cider and become wine?
I think..if you drink a pint of it and you fall over, then it's wine.. :)
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When does something stop being cider and become wine?
I think..if you drink a pint of it and you fall over, then it's wine.. :)
Yes, but I know people that do that with cider!
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I know people who don't do it with wine either! :D
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Seems to be a good question! ::)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scrumpy/cider/real.htm
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my last Turbo cider was ended up being 12%.... Oh boy a pint and that was enough for me :)
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How before you can drink the Brew....i started some off last monday and today its still cloudy, but i tried it out for alcohol and its 10.5% :ohmy:
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How before you can drink the Brew....i started some off last monday and today its still cloudy, but i tried it out for alcohol and its 10.5% :ohmy:
Mine fermented for over six weeks and cleared beautifully!
I stopped it with camden tablets. :blink:
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have just made this today so i'll let you know how i get on. :D
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Well last night i thought I would finally try some of my Brew, as i was planing to take some over to the outlaws over the weekend.
well... 3 pints and i was foobed... :ohmy:
staggered to bed, Ill (not been ill on booze for many ayear) and the headache this morning...
brew cleared OK, tasted a little appley but with no hint of the strength to follow
going to check the alcohol content later...and wont be drink more than a glass next time... ;)
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think I will give TC another blast as my demijohns are sat empty :)
Blackcurrant juice... now there is a thought.. defo not making 12% stuff again and that was a tad too strong
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I didn't realise Lidl did them that cheap :ohmy:
I thought I'd done well picking up 4litres from a local store at 65p each - Lidl next time!
I mixed the 4litres at room tempreature with about a 1lb of sugar, citric acid, yeast nutrient and wine yeast. It's been going for nearly a week and is starting to slow down now. It was clear apple juice, so the fermentation is not that cloudy. I'm sure it will be too strong to drink in pints :lol:
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I've made Turbo Cider and it's rocket fuel. :D
I also de-gassed Peartiser and used that, thinking I'd get Turbo Perry... it was turbo something.
Finally I did the same with Appla and Banana juice... don't bother.
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To be honest I've never managed a pint of the stuff, and still have quite a bit hanging about! Just waiting for the right time, a nice opportunity to anesthetise myself! :tongue2:
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I took the first bottle down the plot so’s my mate could try it. It is seriously strong, I do mean strong!
(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp141/Flatters_photos/pissplot.jpg)
He's obviously enjoying it!!!
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...and I don't like the look of that lighter being so close to the bottle.
Health and Safety, and all that...
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The only juice in T*sco's is made from concentrate.
Is this ok?
I seem to remember reading that you couldn't use it for cider/wine.
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The only juice in T*sco's is made from concentrate.
Is this ok?
I seem to remember reading that you couldn't use it for cider/wine.
You have to be careful with some fruit juices as they have a yeast inhibiter in them!
German regulations don't allow it, so I'm told. :D
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I could never find pure apple juice, even from Aldi/Lidl so had to use the tesco from concentrate stuff. Did the job for me, but tasted a tad thin so added pure honey to it
http://www.sad-land.co.uk/2009/05/05/turbo-cider-part-deux/
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Do you drink it as soon as it's finished fermenting, or keep it for a bit?
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I syphon it into 1L PET bottles add some primer and then leave to clear for a few weeks.
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PRIMER!!
Surely it's strong enough to strip paint as it is?
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to give it a bit of fizz...
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So what is primer then? Not undercoat...?
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goodonya sedgie,lol nice answer,all u can do is keep trying and one day and afew pints later and picking ur self of the floor u will get it right,fingers xxx.lol seeya.kenny,
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Hi, tried my first bottle of turbo, Morrisons own apple juice no sugar added SG 1050 it was lovely definately make some more, so simple to make.
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I'm thinking of doing this 50/50 apple juice and grape juice. Anyone ever done this?
Got a batch of TC in the airing cupboard. It's been fermenting frantically for about a week!
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Has anyone tried to keep the turbo cider for any length of time? I fancy making some to put away for a few months & wondered if it would be ok. CC
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Used the turbo cider method but used red grape juice instead. Just an experimental two litre batch. Fermenting nicely at the moment. I'll keep you posted.
Any thoughts about adding yeast nutrient to this maybe?
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Used the turbo cider method but used red grape juice instead. Just an experimental two litre batch. Fermenting nicely at the moment. I'll keep you posted.
Any thoughts about adding yeast nutrient to this maybe?
im doing the same at the moment (red grape juice) and i have added yeast nutrient, its not ready till end of november so wont know till then.
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Hi You can get a 6% turbo cider drinkable if you like stilll cider in about a week two weeks if you prime for fizzy cider, you dont need extra sugar to achive this there is enough in store bought apple juice if you get 10% or more it is a apple wine not cider.......Fred
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So Fred, what do I do, just add some yeast to the apple juice? or is it more complicated than that? Catherine
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Go back to the first post where AF tells you what to. I've got two lots on the go. One with 2lbs of sugar, and one with 1lb. It really is that easy. Cleanliness and air lock essential though.
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Hi Catherine all you do is buy 5 litres of apple juice put 3 litres in demijohn add a teaspoon of yeast and away you go, when vigoriuos fermentation stops after a couple of days top up to kneck with the rest of apple juice whats left drink, it takes about a week as i said in first post if you want fizzy cider prime with half a teaspoon of sugar per pint wait another week and enjoy-----Fred
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Quick question to prime do I just ad a teaspoon of sugar to the pet bottle? Just regular white sugar or do I have to boil the sugar in water first?
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just add 1/2 teaspoon of white sugar to pint pet bottle then syphon cider into bottle sugar should disolve.......Fred
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Quick question to prime do I just ad a teaspoon of sugar to the pet bottle? Just regular white sugar or do I have to boil the sugar in water first?
Thanks Fred, I will have a go. I have been a while in replying cos I have been on hols. Back to the real world now. CC
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could anyone tell me what bottles i could use please. are glass wine bottles with a cork okay.
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Mine's still, so I've used screw top wine bottles. Fizzy mineral water bottles would work, so long as you don't pit too much sugar in to prime them. Half a teaspoonful per litre?
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Mine's still, so I've used screw top wine bottles. Fizzy mineral water bottles would work, so long as you don't pit too much sugar in to prime them. Half a teaspoonful per litre?
I use the plastic bottles you get flavoured water in from tesco, any bottle like that is fine. I'd prob put a bit more than half a teaspoon in, as I use half for 500mls
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thanks scribbler, i, ll try the screw top wine bottles,have to empty them 1st though !!
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hi, a silly question perhaps, but would this work with orange juice? never brewed anything before, but after seeing this forum, i now have one tc, and one white wine bubbling merrily away in the kitchen.
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I've got various grape mixtures on the go, but orange? Ask the electric guitar geezer.
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hi all
i make my own wine and i am going to have a go at making turbo cider i have bought 4 litres of tesco pure apple juice from concentrate i am led to believe that if you boil it first that gets rid of any additives would this work.
cheers
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If there are additives in your apple juice it will say on the carton usualy if it is ok for vegitarians it is additive free, i have used tescos apple juice and it was additive free----Fred
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Turbo cider is called turbo because it ferments quickly and that is because you use the sugar in the juice the more sugar you use the longer it takes and if you get it to 12% or higher it is apple wine not cider----Fred
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This is Turbo cider
"Well this is as easy as it gets! (called Turbo Cider as it's so quick and easy).
Ingredients:
4.5 of pure apple juice
1 tsp yeast
Method:
1. Place 3 litres of Apple Juice into a demijohn (assuming everything is sterile)
2. Place 1 tsp yeast into the demijohn
3. Shake
4. Leave for 36-48 hrs to ferment then top up with remaining of the juice( can't fill right up at the start as it will foam quite a bit)
5. Leave to ferment out
6. Rack off and drink ( or if you like cider fizzy then prime as usual)
I thought I would try this out and I was very pleased with the results, it is sssooooo easy.
I used Tesco Value apple juice and SG was 1.042 so no sugar was necessary ( to get 5.5%-ish) but if you want cider stronger add sugar/honey or whatever.
Very good for a beginner and an expert alike"
Fred
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Hey Fred
Im trying that one tonight.
Been to Asda and got princes pure apple juice on offer at the moment, 50p a litre.
How cheap is that :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Andy
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bit of a beginners question here :)
I have 2 gallons of cider on the go started on the 8th dec. only occasional bubbles through air lock do I have to wait for it to clear before putting it into bottles ? (i did add some honey to the apple juice before I started!)
Thanx
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You can monitor clarity by shining a torch into the side of the container. If it looks to be getting progressively clearer then wait as long as you can. As far as fermentation is concerned, keep the airlock on until you can see any bubbles. The torch is useful for this too I find.
I've got three lots on the go. One with 2 lbs of sugar, one with 1 lb of sugar and another smaller container which is just fermented juice with no sugar added. Also have three lots of wine, each with a pound of sugar. One red grape juice, one white grape juice and one red and white mixed. All are clearing nicely.
Next experiment is to try using Golden Syrup. May sound a bit strange, but have used this in the past in beer-making. I used a standard lager kit, followed the instructions, but added a tin of Golden Syrup at the end. Then racked off into primed screw top cider bottles. No explosions, mercifully. Tasted great!!
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Thank you scribbler,
I can see another hobby about to develop :lol:
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My turbo cider cleared but it was too dry so I added sugar and of course it started to ferment again. How can I sweeten it? CC
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I think you use Campden tablets to stop fermentation, but I have never used these. Also used for sterilisation, they kill off micro-organisms - including the live yeast. See further up the thread. Someone mentions this. I think you can use these without affecting the final flavour, as opposed to other sterilisation substances such as sodium metabisulphite which may not be suitable.
Anyone expand on this please?
Cheers.
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Thanks Scribbler. CC
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Well i started my "not so" turbo cider last week.
Absolutely nothing going on in the demijon.
I've made all sorts of wines and beers before some with great success and some with out right disgusting results, so i like to think i kinda know what im upto.
But like i said, one week on and nothing.
I got my apple juice, Princes pure from concentrate, checked the ingredients and it said water and apple concentrate, nothing else.
i poured three litres into the demijon added yeast neutrient an pectolas, and finally yeast.
Shook the contents vigoruisly a few times fitted an air lock and placed it on a rug just to the side of one of the radiators.
does anyone know what i've done wrong.
I was hopeing it would have been ready for Christmas. :(
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i decided to make tc and after waiting i am just sampling my first glass, gotta say its very nice
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I Love Turbo Cider, brewed many different batchs and still trying to find the perfect one :)
really want to make a 5 gallon batch next :)