[ruralbob]

Hi

My plot had no running water on it, I have a few water butts, however today when I moved a sheet of timber I found an old pipe that goes to the river below. After a little asking around it became apparent that a previous plot tenant had used a hand pump to pump water direct up to the allotment from the river.

The river is over a wall about ten feet below. The site has no electric so am thinking hand pump!

Any ideas what kind of hand pump I would be best with??? I have seen the ornamental ones, which actually do work, but would they be suitable???

Any help appreciated.

cheers

x

[mumofstig]

see if there is anything helpful on this old thread

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=50239.msg594765#msg594765

[ruralbob]

Looked, not really apart from the suggestion of the hand pumps you get on the ornamental barrels.

Would one of these be able to lift water via an attached hose pipe up 6 feet??

[RichardA]

archimedes screw and/or wind pumps were invented for such scenarios.
R

[penninehillbilly]

would it be possible to get a small (maybe second hand) generator?

[Gwiz]

Looked, not really apart from the suggestion of the hand pumps you get on the ornamental barrels.

Would one of these be able to lift water via an attached hose pipe up 6 feet??

6' shouldn't be a problem for one of the old hand pumps, after all, they were designed for much deeper wells.
You might also look at one of the hand operated bilge pumps for boats, some of them pump on the forward and backward strokes so are a little more efficient.

[muckshifter]

I pump water on my plot (no mains) with an ancient petrol engined direct coupled water pump, 40 odd years old, but spares for the Villiers engine still available (should they be needed).
I reduced the 2" outlet  down to 1/2" so I can put a domestic hose and sprinkler on it,as much pressure as the mains.
They will lift from quite a depth as were originaly meant for extracting ground water from excavations.in fact the ones we use at work now are just the same but with up to date oriental engines.
The old ones seem to make little money as collectors look down on them as ugly old building site pumps.
Would you need a licence to abstract from a water course?

[mumofstig]

not unless you take an awful lot of water

[grendel]

how about wrapping a hose in a spiral up a pole, thus forming an archimedes screw, turn the apparatus and water will come up the hose.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/physics/demo-images/2-Fluid%20Mechanics/2B60-1_1_archimedes_screw.jpg
grendel

[penninehillbilly]

how about wrapping a hose in a spiral up a pole, thus forming an archimedes screw, turn the apparatus and water will come up the hose.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/physics/demo-images/2-Fluid%20Mechanics/2B60-1_1_archimedes_screw.jpg
grendel

Maybe adapt a bicycle to supply the power to turn? This could be interesting to see, I'm not far from Skipton, let me know if you try this

[penninehillbilly]

Hi Rural Bob
How are the river water levels in Skipton?

[brownp]

I have just started to use a 12 volt submersible pump connected to a battery with really good results (miles better than I had dared to hope for)
The pump is a congo and cost £30

[fatcat1955]

12v caravan water pump via a car battery connected to a solar charger. Works a treat.

[Goldfinger]

how about wrapping a hose in a spiral up a pole, thus forming an archimedes screw, turn the apparatus and water will come up the hose.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/physics/demo-images/2-Fluid%20Mechanics/2B60-1_1_archimedes_screw.jpg
grendel

Maybe adapt a bicycle to supply the power to turn? This could be interesting to see, I'm not far from Skipton, let me know if you try this

If the 'twists' were tighter, would/could it lift from a deeper depth??

Just wondering because, could you then drill a borehole to water, and so you then have a supply and means of lifting water on peoples' plots that have no or limited supply??

Bit of DIYing, stick some blades on the end, and you then have a wind powered pump!