Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => General Gardening => Topic started by: The Singing Gardener on January 16, 2008, 17:15
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I run a production company that deals with TV and Radio programmes. I have a keen interest in allotment gardening and am looking at developing a new gardening programme.
What do you want from a gardening programme?
What do you feel that you don't get from current TV / Radio programmes?
What would you prefer TV or Radio programme?
Would you download a radio programme for you mp3 or ipod and listen while you garden?
Tell me what you want and are looking for from a gardening programme and let's make a programme for real gardeners and not just quick fix programmes.
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Blimey, you don't know what you've started. :lol: Not short of an opinion or three on here.
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I think GQT is too flowers and shrubs, more veg items. I like listening to Terry Wotsit from the Rhondda Valley when he's on Radio 2, knows his stuff but not poncy.
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We have a contact with Terry Walton from the Rhondda.
Views about presenters is useful as well. Which ones have been good? Which ones are bad? What do you look for in a presenter? Male? Female? Both? How many? Young? Old?
Do you like the jiggy camera work? or prefer a traditional feel?
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Yes most programs are aimed at "gardeners" i.e. what you have outside your back door. Lawn, flowers, shrubs, trees and only a tiny smattering of fruit and veg.
So more fruit and veg programs including soil preparation and crop rotation.
I like radio progs so I can do other things at the same time.
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i like tv and we want more chickens too, a nice male presenter...mid 30's, single tall with dark hair and blue eyes. not too skinny but not a chubster either. cute bum and strong arms......and a sense of humour and can explain it to us newbies who havent a clue as well as tips for those more experienced.
oh and i'll happilly hold his spade for him if you need me too. :wink:
swoon
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i like tv and we want more chickens too, a nice male presenter...mid 30's, single tall with dark hair and blue eyes. not too skinny but not a chubster either. cute bum and strong arms......and a sense of humour and can explain it to us newbies who havent a clue as well as tips for those more experienced.
I can tick most of these boxes. Where & when are the auditions being held?
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you have to tick all boxes...im very fussy :lol:
and anyhoo waggy your on the norty step ....
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This is just my personal opinion. I would like to see an allotment being worked week by week. I want the presenter to be the one who does all the work, not a team of helpers who do it during the week so he can take the credit on a Friday night!
I want the soil to be problematic, not a lovely loam, and I want a list of the seeds used to be online.
Ideally, two allotments, one in the south of Britain, one in the north, to compare planting times and yields.
I want less visits to 'gardens' of acres in size, and I don't want a woman swanning about in a floral dress never getting dirty.
Hows that to be going on with?
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but brucie in a floral dress will be welcome :wink:
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I don't want a woman swanning about in a floral dress never getting dirty.
:( I quite often do my gardening in a flowery dress :(
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but i dont want to watch a barbara woodhouse type
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but i dont want to watch a barbara woodhouse type
I'm not like her at least :D
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i like tv and we want more chickens too, a nice male presenter...mid 30's, single tall with dark hair and blue eyes. not too skinny but not a chubster either. cute bum and strong arms......and a sense of humour and can explain it to us newbies who havent a clue as well as tips for those more experienced.
I can tick most of these boxes. Where & when are the auditions being held?
Sure enough you have a sense of humour. :lol:
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I don't want a woman swanning about in a floral dress never getting dirty.
:( I quite often do my gardening in a flowery dress :(
Might that be anything to do with the state of your pear trees? :roll:
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Sure enough you have a sense of humour. :lol:
I did say most :oops:
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I agree with everything that everyone has said on here and doubly so for showing more about hens and other allotment reared animals and how about bees too.
I've said before that programmes like GW (until the rein of Monty Don) have concentrated far too much on growing flowers and visiting spectacular show gardens.
I don't like it when shows expect you to be an experienced gardener either - Alan Titchmarsh was great for explaining techniques every year even though he had talked it through in depth the year before.
As for the presenter - could we please NOT have someone who just presents - no pretty boys or airhead girls who just look good in front of the camera.
There's a whole load of gardening talent on this forum alone; why not feature some of the allotments from around the country?
Also, would your show continue on through the winter? a lot of shows are spring-autumn only but there's still stuff to be done during the winter and it could be a good time to do all of the rotation and planning stuff, just like a real gardener would.
Good luck - can't wait to see it!
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pretty boys can learn how to grow a carrot too you know..... :wink:
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but brucie in a floral dress will be welcome :wink:
Brucie out of his dress would be even more welcome :lol: :lol:
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One thing that really annoyed me about the Carol Klein series last year was the constant misty, blurry shots of gardens with a 'dreamy' soundtrack. If I want this effect I can do it myself by having a few sips of homemade wine and lying in the veg plot without my glasses on :roll: . Let's have something practical! :D
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well said!
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A programme such as you are suggesting is the stuff of dreams for many on here. It would be interesting to know who you work for and what you have done in the past. Also, are we talking BBC or commercial channels? Finally, why now, why us?
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have a look at http://www.interfusionfilms.com/
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have a look at http://www.interfusionfilms.com/
Who are they and why are they relevant to this discussion?
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Someone mentioned presenters. Take a look at this video and tell me what you think. This is a new presenter we are looking at. What do you think? This is a screen test and first time he was in front of a TV camera, so please be constructive. It's not as easy as people think.
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The video has only just been uploaded so it may need a few moments before it's displayed.
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have a look at http://www.interfusionfilms.com/
Who are they and why are they relevant to this discussion?
look at the exec producer, thats thesinginggardener.
just call me kojak :wink:
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You should become one of our researchers babe.
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Nothing special, very ordinary and Australian.
So who are you?
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How did you find the website babe?
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i don't really enjoy the gardening programmes that are on at the mo - tv wise - i don't listen to the radio much - unless it's through the tv - then its planet rock usually 8) on very loud :lol:
i think that there are too many presenters that are too far up their own RR's - in gardening and everything else - tv does like the pretty boy / girl - i'm biased because i'm an ugly looking creature :roll:
old big boobs and water features
floppy don
alan tit-something
another tv gardener - won't name - :wink: offered to prune a friends apple tree - they said yes - because he was off the telly - and it's nearly dead now - so who do they ask to get it back to something tree like :roll:
although i really dislike this reality tv culture that we now have - i think i would be more inclined to watch the real life struggles and achievements of real people - in real gardens - and who really care about their plots, the kids, the enviroment etc - than a load of overpaid twots who think that they know it all
:twisted: i'm back off to gyo - proper :wink:
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My name is Sean and yes I am the Executive Producer for Interfusion Films. I feel that the current crop of gardening programmes about the past few years have been poor. I would like to produce a new gardening programme that looks at the allotment/garden from January 1 until the end of December.
I have been speaking with all the leading commissioning editor (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Five) for the past few years but I'm getting feedback that the traditional gardening programme is dead and not what audiences want.
My view is that a gardening programme should be about the allotment/garden and not about the flashy camera work and to focus on the plants not the presenters. Also, to give the view enough time to look at the plant and write down its name.
I still feel there is a need for a programme such as this. The other strand would be how to garden on the cheap. You don't have to spend hundred on a bench or a piece of trellis (as one gardening show did last Summer, "this piece of trellis only cost £130 so we bought five"!!!!)
I was starting to belive the commissioning editor that the traditional gardening programme was dead but after reading your comments it does look like I was taking the programme down the correct avenue.
The programme would be split into two sections vegetables/herbs/fruit and flowers spending 15 minutes on each section.
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Well if this was his first time in front of the camera then I think he's got potential.... he seemed very relaxed and whilst a few words were over used (a bit of scripting or practice would put that right) he came across as if he knew what he was talking about.
I think that the suggestion of following the development of an allotment was fantastic and I'd Sky+ every episode!
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The idea regarding the allotment and its progress is one that we have already started filming.
Filming commenced on January 1 and our aim is to visit the allotment every first of the month until the end of the year. The rules we are sticking by are that only one person can work the plot and no help can be taken from other allotment holders except by them giving advice. The daily hands on must only be done by the allotment holder. We also aim to show the disasters as well as the positive aspect.
In February we are having a greenhouse delivered and we are already having to deal with local allotment laws regarding its size and whether its 2ft from the fence or not.
Our aim is to show a realistic allotment facing realistic problems. But it would be nice to jump ahead eight months to see what it would look like. We may end up with no vegetables and just a plot full of slugs but at least it will be the true story.
We also aim to go and visit other allotments around the country during July for an additional programme called ME AND MY ALLOTMENT. And I'll be asking for contributors closer to the time.
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You should become one of our researchers babe.
do i get to play with the aussie gardener? :wink:
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He's gone down under at the moment. I'll let you know when he comes back up.
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How did you find the website babe?
see i can use my brain sometimes..... i just choose not to do so on a regular basis.
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Is Sean you?
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I think you should try Splodger if she can talk to the camera, mate, she knows her stuff and has a brilliant sense of humour and enthusiasm.
You got to edit the language of course and limit the becks for filming. :wink:
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My name is Sean and yes I am the Executive Producer for Interfusion Films. I feel that the current crop of gardening programmes about the past few years have been poor. I would like to produce a new gardening programme that looks at the allotment/garden from January 1 until the end of December.
I have been speaking with all the leading commissioning editor (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Five) for the past few years but I'm getting feedback that the traditional gardening programme is dead and not what audiences want.
My view is that a gardening programme should be about the allotment/garden and not about the flashy camera work and to focus on the plants not the presenters. Also, to give the view enough time to look at the plant and write down its name.
I still feel there is a need for a programme such as this. The other strand would be how to garden on the cheap. You don't have to spend hundred on a bench or a piece of trellis (as one gardening show did last Summer, "this piece of trellis only cost £130 so we bought five"!!!!)
I was starting to belive the commissioning editor that the traditional gardening programme was dead but after reading your comments it does look like I was taking the programme down the correct avenue.
The programme would be split into two sections vegetables/herbs/fruit and flowers spending 15 minutes on each section.
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I feel that the current crop of gardening programmes about the past few years have been poor. I would like to produce a new gardening programme that looks at the allotment/garden from January 1 until the end of December.
Yay! it's about time - I had given up hope of ever seeing a good gardening programme. The one that Simon Mayonnaise did last year with all of the allotment holders was good, but concentrated more on the people and not enough on the plants they were growing or the problems they encountered.
I have been speaking with all the leading commissioning editor (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Five) for the past few years but I'm getting feedback that the traditional gardening programme is dead and not what audiences want.
The problem with people who think they know what people want is that they don't ask the people what they want - they just assume they already know!
My view is that a gardening programme should be about the allotment/garden and not about the flashy camera work and to focus on the plants not the presenters. Also, to give the view enough time to look at the plant and write down its name.
I still feel there is a need for a programme such as this. The other strand would be how to garden on the cheap. You don't have to spend hundred on a bench or a piece of trellis (as one gardening show did last Summer, "this piece of trellis only cost £130 so we bought five"!!!!)
I was starting to belive the commissioning editor that the traditional gardening programme was dead but after reading your comments it does look like I was taking the programme down the correct avenue.
The programme would be split into two sections vegetables/herbs/fruit and flowers spending 15 minutes on each section.
Totally agree, how long would the show be? if it's just half an hour then I'd probably not watch beyond the veggie bit - there's enough programmes on that do flowers and not enough for veggies.... could it please be biased more towards fruit and veg but not too much on the flowers?
Also, would it be possible to do regular features on self sufficient living things such as keeping chooks, bees, making homemade wine etc? This would deffinately set your programme apart from the run-of-the-mill type programmes...
fingers crossed! (http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc275/SnooziSuzi/Fingers_Crossed_emoticon.gif)
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what about chickens....elvis has brushed his hair ready for his screenshot. :wink:
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I think there has been enough coverage of Chickens in the past few weeks.
living things such as keeping chooks, bees, making homemade wine etc?
This is a very good idea. We are already in talks with a bee organisation about having them featured and we are looking into whether we are allowed bees on the allotment plot we have. I do like the idea of including topics such as homemade wine as well. Also there would be a greenhouse section.
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I think you should try Splodger if she can talk to the camera, mate, she knows her stuff and has a brilliant sense of humour and enthusiasm.
You got to edit the language of course and limit the becks for filming. :wink:
what a horrible thought gobs - i'm not a tv type - i am far too shy for that - i can't even bear to put a proper photo of me on here - just a few dressie up ones :lol:
besides i am far too ugly for tv - my face was made for radio :wink: and then there's the voice - very deep - very plummy - and far too sarcastic :wink:
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He does Radio too, you know. But anyhow, I'd rather fancy you as the next gardening celeb than many else. :wink:
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Another area that is of interest in the time and date of a possible broadcast. I've always felt that 8:30pm on a Friday is fine until you get into March. I used to watch Gardeners' World every week but was too busy in the garden from March until October to watch it.
Someone else mentioned about winter gardening. Yes, I do feel this is an area that has been overlooked. Maybe not on a weekly basis but should change to a monthly basis from November until February then back to weekly.
What time? Day? Would you like to see such a programme on?
I tend to go for Sunday morning around 10am.
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So why all the subterfuge Sean? Don't try to bluff your way out of it. Honesty is the best policy. I'm not impressed by your methods. :evil:
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10 am on a sunday most people will be going out esp in summer.
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10 am on a sunday most people will be going out esp in summer.
i'd still be in bed - probably - contemplating 8)
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I think that early in the morning is good as it gets you all excited about going out and trying what you've seen. Where as the 8:30pm shows you're either in the garden or it's too late to run out and try your new ideas.
I normally get to my plot around 11am on a Sunday and am suprised to see so many people already working away. I guess they must be there from 10am. So maybe 9am would be better.
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who's up at 9 on a sunday.
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I don't think many people would watch it early on a Sunday morning
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I give up, you all seem to want to play along. Be careful.
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Sorry - 10 am on a Sunday morning is Archers time for me!!!!! :oops:
Will this be on terrestial TV, and if we miss it can we catch it again on tinternet?
Just thought - I could record it.
And I'm not being racist - but why an Australian presenter?
Blimey - got verbal diarrhoea now :!:
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Australian Presenter - He was directed to us from an agency. He own his own gardening company and wants to move into TV. That's the connection.
The information regarding repeats will be up to the broadcaster but I was assume that it would be available on the internet as most programmes are now.
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So Singing Gardener... have you joined our forums to promote and gather information for your TV program or do you intend to remain as a member and make valuable and interesting contributions to our site :?:
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I have lots of other form messages on here asking about questions in relation to work on my own private allotment.
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So Singing Gardener... have you joined our forums to promote and gather information for your TV program or do you intend to remain as a member and make valuable and interesting contributions to our site :?:
i can feel a straight to dungeon card coming - :lol: go anty go :lol:
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Naughty step forever Aunty please. No parole. :wink:
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I am unhappy with the way current gardening programmes are going. I don't think I'm the only one who feels like this but when you are being told by the powers that be at TV stations that you are wrong then you start believing them.
This was only to discover if I was barking up the wrong tree - and yes, if everyone appeared to agree with what I've already been told then I would have just dumped the idea and forgot about it.
But this discuss has given me hope that I'm on the right tracks with this programme and has encouraged me to keep fighting the corner against the commissioners who are telling me it's not what people want.
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I have lots of other form messages on here asking about questions in relation to work on my own private allotment.
Was that a yes or a no :?:
You've only been a member for 10 days :roll:
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I wasn't aware there was a probation period.
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more people are leaning towards being a little more self sufficient everyday.
but its no good unless youre going to show all the things that can and will go wrong.
but you dont want chooks so me and elvis are going to go and play elsewhere.... humphh
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I wasn't aware there was a probation period.
So are you saying you intend to remain a forum member and contributor here after your program research is complete :?:
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I was always my intention to stay on here as an individual in relation to my private allotment and not any gardening related programme that I maybe involved in.
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If you click on my www below you will see information about my own allotment. I think I would have gone to a lot of trouble if there was no intention of staying.
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come on be nice,.... he hasnt done anything wrong yet.... but im biased he knows who the aussie is :wink:
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Some one said previously that normal people are never asked what they want. When you are asked people are shot down.
Maybe people in TV should carry on doing what they want to do and to hell with the audience.
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If you had entered out site and let us know who you were and what you wanted I would have had no reservations about you.
As a site administrator I always keep a look out for the way new members post, and as a new member your posts were very different to the usual ones. You sounded as though you were here just for your own agenda and were using our forums as an easy and free way to carry out your research.
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Some one said previously that normal people are never asked what they want. When you are asked people are shot down.
Maybe people in TV should carry on doing what they want to do and to hell with the audience.
Do you always have a stroppy attitude if challenged :?:
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If I had come on just to promote a show then I would accept your views.
But I come on as an individual.
So let's finish the discussion here and you can all blast the idea when it's on air as being totally missing the point.
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If I had come on just to promote a show then I would accept your views.
But I come on as an individual.
So let's finish the discussion here and you can all blast the idea when it's on air as being totally missing the point.
As I said if you had introduced yourself and your interest in program making from the start there would have been no misunderstanding. And yes you still are stroppy and taking the huff. And will it matter if it misses the point on a Sunday morning :roll:
I will look forward to your posts on gardening topics on the forums.
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You sounded as though you were here just for your own agenda
Yes my own agenda is to find out about raised beds straight onto grass: http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=11774
Give some unwanted seeds away: http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=11620
Try and find some seeds I'm looking for: http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?t=11626
Find out if anyone else has had success with gardening by the moon: http://www.chat.allotment-garden.org/viewtopic.php?p=149293&highlight=#149293
etc etc. I've even offered some ideas for new forum topics such as Growing for Showing in a private message to the forum creator. Which he kindly replied to.
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Next week I'm buying a greenhouse from a large diy store. I'll make readers aware first that my friend sells greenhouses from another company before I start my discussion. I don't want readers to get the wrong impression.
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I'm sure you do have a genuine interest in allotment gardening, so do please continue posting on many and varied topics.
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Next week I'm buying a greenhouse from a large diy store. I'll make readers aware first that my friend sells greenhouses from another company before I start my discussion. I don't want readers to get the wrong impression.
If you are going to be sarkey with me SG you'll be banned :!:
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A website that doesn't allow people to criticise. Freedom of speech must be dead.
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I think you'd better stop now dear. It's very cold in the dungeon :wink:
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Even threats now !!!!
I'm off to the shed. I need a cup of tea.
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We always have cakes in the shed too, help yourself :lol:
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After that discussion do you think I'd eat a cake you've made.
I'm baked my own thank you very much. Even has an organically allotment grown cherry on the top.
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After that discussion do you think I'd eat a cake you've made.
I'm baked my own thank you very much. Even has an organically allotment grown cherry on the top.
If you knew us a bit better you would know what kind of cakes Aunty makes. Try this one:
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I still think there should be a new section about GROWING FOR SHOWING. And in September have an on-line garden show.
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1 - I run a production company that deals with TV and Radio programmes. I have a keen interest in allotment gardening and am looking at developing a new gardening programme.
2 - What do you want from a gardening programme?
3 - What do you feel that you don't get from current TV / Radio programmes?
4 - What would you prefer TV or Radio programme?
5 - Would you download a radio programme for you mp3 or ipod and listen while you garden?
6- Tell me what you want and are looking for from a gardening programme and let's make a programme for real gardeners and not just quick fix programmes.
1 - Oh, dear, aren't there too many around already?
2 - To be accurate and knowledgeable.
3 - Satisfaction.
4 - Radio, so you can actually garden even if you chose to listen to it.
5 - No way. I prefer music any time. Gardening programmes are actually aimed at the non-gardener I think.
6 - I don't really know. As I find I've never watched any for years and I'm not missing them, really. And sorry, I'm in the garden, usually. :wink:
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I still think there should be a new section about GROWING FOR SHOWING. And in September have an on-line garden show.
We have enough forums for our needs thanks. We had a forum veg show last year and it was a flop. We think it requires too much spraying for our taste, we grow to eat :D
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I still think there should be a new section about GROWING FOR SHOWING. And in September have an on-line garden show.
We have enough forums for our needs thanks. We had a forum veg show last year and it was a flop. We think it requires too much spraying for our taste, we grow to eat :D
There's a few guys on our lotties who grow to show (I can pass you their names with their permission SG). I had an old uncle who grew leeks for the Leek Shows every year (and won a few times too!) so it could bring in more interest and members... just a thought!
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I'm looking around the web for a suitable growing for showing forum. I used to live next door to the world champion leek grower to my right and on the left there was the world champion chrysanthemum growing. So I though this year I'd have a go and try some of their tricks I used to see them do at midnight.
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WOW! :shock: World Champ!
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I don't want a woman swanning about in a floral dress never getting dirty.
:( I quite often do my gardening in a flowery dress :(
Might that be anything to do with the state of your pear trees? :roll:
Splodger! :( We were leaving them alone til we knew what to do with them :roll:
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I don't want a woman swanning about in a floral dress never getting dirty.
:( I quite often do my gardening in a flowery dress :(
Might that be anything to do with the state of your pear trees? :roll:
Splodger! :( We were leaving them alone til we knew what to do with them :roll:
but i never got the email - i just thought you had a change of heart :wink:
that pear tree is mine - i want that virtual pruning job :lol: :lol: :lol: it's going to be peeing down and i need a virtual challenge :lol:
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Will re-email them now :D
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I don't know why Rose called me Splodger there, confusion is nothing to do with me. :lol: :lol:
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it's a shame the only jobs i can get are virtual ones :?
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:oops: :oops: :oops: I am having a really off night - sorry Gobs, sorry Splodger...
have emailed them again -- to the right address this time....what's the difference between .com and .co.uk anyway? - the computer should KNOW what I meant... :oops: :oops: :oops:
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I still think there should be a new section about GROWING FOR SHOWING.
I might have this all wrong but why would someone growing for show be willing to use a forum to share their ideas with the very people they are competing against? It just seems 180 degrees out to me?? From what little I've seen of show growers, it is all about jealously guarding your own secrets.
The reason I love this forum dearly is that everyone is willing to share their experiences and knowledge for the express benefit of all the others. The only person I know who wants to eat a 15ft carrot is Babe and that's because she is only growing one.
I have never so much as met anyone from this forum but yet I have received (and given) advice, support, ideas, seeds, plants and cyber-affection in significant quantities. It is an heckuva nice place to hang out.
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If you're really interested in show growing then you should join the National Vegetable Society (http://www.nvsuk.org.uk/)
Not only can you share information with other growers but you can buy an exciting series of DVDs on various show growing topics.
If you go to Medwyn Williams Articles (http://www.allotment-garden.org/medwyn-williams-vegetable-growing.php) page on here you'll find links to about 400 articles by the winner of 10 consecutive RHS gold medals at Chelsea.
Medwyn's a lovely chap, I'll mention your interests Sean when I see him next (couple of weeks time)
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I can see it now!
"And the Bafta award for best factual tv show goes to "The Singing Gardener" an everyday tale of lottie folk."
"Oh Gosh..... (Sob)........ This is such a thrill"
"First I would like to thank, my agent the film crew sound recordist and most of all the real stars of this show The Allotment and Vegetable Gardening Forum without who I could never have made this program!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Not sure if its already been mentioned but there used to be a really good Channel 4 programme with Monty Don called, I think, Real Gardens, which had Monty visiting each week 3 or 4 gardeners who were working on various projects (not expensive or complicated necessarily - just, say, creating a veg patch). He would offer advice, help a bit, and then leave them too it. The visits covered several months or even longer.
It was really good because it was not about quick fixes, or gardeners with loads of money.
I also like the Gardeners World slots when they visit gardeners with real passion, dedication and skill - like the ones that hold various national collections of sometimes really obscure plants. I find their enthusiasm infectious. For the same reason I like the programme where they visit people trying to get into the Yellow Book - but I prefer the ones who have done all the hard work themselves - not just got a landscape gardener in.
Real day to day gardening is what I would like to see.
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1 What do you want from a gardening programme?
2 What do you feel that you don't get from current TV / Radio programmes?
3 What would you prefer TV or Radio programme?
4 Would you download a radio programme for you mp3 or ipod and listen while you garden?
1 - Information about growing vegetables primarily, then possibly fruit. But not flowers, not garden design and not show gardens. It's all about allotments and veg patches. If the programme was longer than half an hour, some info on chooks too possibly. Ideally the programme would run through the vegetable growing year. It would cover different types of standard veg, early and late varieties, sowing times and crop rotation. Greenhouse crops too, such as toms, aubergines, cucumbers, peppers and chillies. Would also cover some more unusual veg - which are becoming more common as growers come from different cultural backgrounds. Eg Florence fennel, mooli, different beans
2 - These are just the things we're not getting from programmes at the moment. Percy Thrower would really cringe if he saw what programmes go out today. Even GQT on R4 has dumbed down and got rather silly.
3 - TV programme would be preferred.
4 - No. Who wants to listen to an MP3 player when you can talk to the neighbours or just listen to the birds?
Finally, the presenter - male or female - needs to exude calmness and authority, and needs to know what he or she is talking about. In the same mould as Percy Thrower or Geoff Hamilton.
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I think there has been enough coverage of Chickens in the past few weeks.
living things such as keeping chooks, bees, making homemade wine etc?
This is a very good idea. We are already in talks with a bee organisation about having them featured and we are looking into whether we are allowed bees on the allotment plot we have. I do like the idea of including topics such as homemade wine as well. Also there would be a greenhouse section.
Maybe a frugal living section that shows how to salvage pallets to make things, preserving gluts of produce as a 5-10 minute slot within an allotment programme would be great! Drying and bottling fruit, pickling etc etc
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I still think there should be a new section about GROWING FOR SHOWING.
I might have this all wrong but why would someone growing for show be willing to use a forum to share their ideas with the very people they are competing against? It just seems 180 degrees out to me?? From what little I've seen of show growers, it is all about jealously guarding your own secrets.
The reason I love this forum dearly is that everyone is willing to share their experiences and knowledge for the express benefit of all the others. The only person I know who wants to eat a 15ft carrot is Babe and that's because she is only growing one.
I have never so much as met anyone from this forum but yet I have received (and given) advice, support, ideas, seeds, plants and cyber-affection in significant quantities. It is an heckuva nice place to hang out.
I'd like to second what Daithi has said; I personally wouldn't have any interest in growing prize winning vegetables and I can't see that any champions would be too keen to share their prize-winning tips with anyone else. It is my understanding that such varieties of vegetable are bred for show rather than flavour :?
What I like about here is that no matter what part of the world you're in, or how little or how much you know, you're made feel welcome;the other people are incredibly friendly and caring
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Is Daithi WG in Garlic - sorry Gallic?
Gaelic even...
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Is Daithi WG in Garlic - sorry Gallic?
Gaelic even...
:lol: :lol: Not only is Daithi Irish for David but Dewey is Welsh for David :roll: :wink:
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Is Daithi WG in Garlic - sorry Gallic?
Gaelic even...
:lol: :lol: Not only is Daithi Irish for David but Dewey is Welsh for David :roll: :wink:
Thought that was Dai? Mind you, there was the rugby player Dewey Morris :?
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:roll: http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Dewey
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Wikipedia : derives from the Latin name rosmarinus, which literally means "dew of the sea"
So, RCTG, I can drop the name if you don't like being call David :wink: 8)
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Wikipedia : derives from the Latin name rosmarinus, which literally means "dew of the sea"
So, RCTG, I can drop the name if you don't like being call David :wink: 8)
I think she loves to be called Dewey (by you) :!: :D
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Is Daithi WG in Garlic - sorry Gallic?
Gaelic even...
:lol: :lol: Not only is Daithi Irish for David but Dewey is Welsh for David :roll: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm hoping it's not pronounced anything like Deity. :roll: :lol:
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Deity
Mmmm - I could get used to that name :wink:
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Is Daithi WG in Garlic - sorry Gallic?
Gaelic even...
:lol: :lol: Not only is Daithi Irish for David but Dewey is Welsh for David :roll: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm hoping it's not pronounced anything like Deity. :roll: :lol:
Behave gobs or you be me first laydeee in the dungeon for this new year :lol: :lol: :wink:
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I thought someone was there already. :lol:
I just asked a pronunciation question. :roll:
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I find Gaelic and Gallic rather disturbing, and what you say seems to bear no relation to what is written.
names like Siobhan etc.
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I thought someone was there already. :lol:
I just asked a pronunciation question. :roll:
I have lots of dungeons gods and they are all empty. WG in on the cold nasty naught stairs though :lol:
Yeh... it is a nice sounding word :D
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:oops:
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I find Gaelic and Gallic rather disturbing, and what you say seems to bear no relation to what is written.
names like Siobhan etc.
It makes sense to me though :D
It is funny though listening to people trying to pronounce certain names -- for ages Peter couldn't get 'Cathal' right and the two Polish staff on the ferry can't say 'Donal'
Sigh, I will try and drop the Daithi if it's a problem.... :roll:
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If you all keep talking foreign then I shall bring out a new rule that all posts must be in English with Klingon subtitles :)
That'll slow you down!!
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If you all keep talking foreign then I shall bring out a new rule that all posts must be in English with Klingon subtitles :)
That'll slow you down!!
I'm ready:
http://soultrek.net/faq/klindictionary.htm
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It's a machine language, doesn't do any rude, clever, funny or colloquial words.
You are fibbing biguns there Jon about introducing it methinks. :lol:
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Sigh, I will try and drop the Daithi if it's a problem.... :roll:
It is no problem at all, I'm sure. :lol:
You just tell us what it's pronounced like. :twisted:
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It's a machine language, doesn't do any rude, clever, funny or colloquial words.
You are fibbing biguns there Jon about introducing it methinks. :lol:
It's Klingon gobs. They'd kill you if you sugested they were machines :shock: :lol:
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Don't tell them, please! :shock: :shock:
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OK I'll keep quiet !
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Killed anyone with your batlith recently Aunty?
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Killed anyone with your batlith recently Aunty?
Certainly have Ice :wink:
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Then it's a beaker of blood wine all round. :wink:
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Then it's a beaker of blood wine all round. :wink:
Blood wine of cause 8)
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Star Trekking
Across the universe
Always going forward
We just can't find reverse. :lol:
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:lol:
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I think we should voluntarily retire to the naughty step in order to reflect on our extreme efforts in going "off topic" and a chance to chat about Star Trek. :lol:
Not really, you wouldn't catch me associating with the likes that frequent the naughty step. :wink:
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WG's on the naughty stairs just now. He's been my only client so far this year. Why is everyone behaving so well :roll:
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so to sum up this entire thread;
we want to see all of the following in our gardening programmes:
lots of veg
some fruit
possibly chooks, bees, smallholding type animals
and KLINGONS! :roll:
:wink:
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so to sum up this entire thread;
we want to see all of the following in our gardening programmes:
lots of veg
some fruit
possibly chooks, bees, smallholding type animals
and KLINGONS! :roll:
:wink:
:lol: Brilliant :!:
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so to sum up this entire thread;
we want to see all of the following in our gardening programmes:
lots of veg
some fruit
possibly chooks, bees, smallholding type animals
and KLINGONS! :roll:
:wink:
Damn straight. :lol: :lol: :lol: All is sometimes not what it seems. :wink:
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Star Trekking
Across the universe
Always going forward
We just can't find reverse. :lol:
8) song that one, now I'll have it in my head all night :roll: if I get told off for humming the chorus line in bed I'm blaming you :lol:
that reminds me .. what does captain kerk and toilet paper have in common ?
they both wipe out klingons :wink:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
One for John, is it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Treading a fine line there Richy!!
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Aunty didn't read that one Richy :wink:
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so to sum up this entire thread;
we want to see all of the following in our gardening programmes:
lots of veg
some fruit
possibly chooks, bees, smallholding type animals
and KLINGONS! :roll:
:wink:
and bi-lingual too
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Treading a fine line there Richy!!
I know but it always makes me laugh, you can see what kind of childhood I had :lol:
Aunty didn't read that one Richy :wink:
:D thanks Aunty
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Hello,
My wife & I have just completed a self build project in the lovely countryside outside Canterbury in Kent. The house has been built in the vernacular style typical of this locality - hand made clay brick & roof tiles, knapped flint and weatherboarding. It is quite a large house, approximately 3500 sq feet, a significant part of it has been constructed using a green oak frame. I know that I am biased but it is an extremely beautiful house in a stunning location with the most fantastic views. I would like to send you some photographs but sadly, I don't know how to attach them to this mail? My e-mail address is Removed by Aunt Sally If you write back to me I will send you some.
Since arriving here three years ago, we have planted a large vegetable garden and orchard (from scratch) and keep pigs, chickens, geese and sheep.
What we have is a five acre plot on a gentle south easterly facing slope on chalk downland. We have arrived at the point in the development of this house which involves the creation of a garden (what we bought initially was just a field). Sadly, we don't have any money left to develop the garden at the moment - this will probably have to wait for a year or two. However, I believe that the development of this garden, given it's location and views would make compelling television and wonder whether you may consider making a programme specific to this project?
Kind regards,
Huw Davies.