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Title: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Jonajo on April 02, 2010, 08:52
Which do folk tend to go for in their greenhouses for growing tomatoes: large pots or growbags?

And is it customary for greenhouses to get pretty full: I am planning what to grow in there (8 by 6 ft) and trying to work out rough spacing beforehand and numbers of plants (melons, cucumber, aubergine, peppers, toms). I fear it will look like a jungle!!

Thanks
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Slowgrind on April 02, 2010, 09:11
For the first time this year I'm going to try half a grow bag with the bottom slit open sitting in the greenhouse border. I'll let you know if it's a good method!
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: theakston_uk on April 02, 2010, 09:20
Last year I grew toms in grow bags but also cut the bottom out of large plastic plantpots and sunk those into the grow bag so the plants could establish nice deep roots. I've attatched a pic so you know what I'm trying to explain.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Ice on April 02, 2010, 09:41
I grow mine in flower buckets from the local store on trays so I can water from the bottom.  Have decided to grow a bit less in there this year. ::)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u190/Dee56_photos/tomatoes001.jpg)
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 11:01
i use them green recycling crates,loads of room for root growth.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Slowgrind on April 02, 2010, 11:11
Does Andrew Glen type your posts out for you blackbob?  :D
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 11:17
Does Andrew Glen type your posts out for you blackbob?  :D

who's Andrew Glen?
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Slowgrind on April 02, 2010, 11:26
Are you to young to have read the Dandy comic blackbob?
He was a Scottish shepherd with a border collie dog called blackbob.
Every week they would have an adventure where blackbob would save the day! Finding someone down a well or preventing a catastrophe of some sort, or bringing the doctor to the rescue if his master took ill! It was great stuff for a ten year old!!!
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 11:28
Are you to young to have read the Dandy comic blackbob?
He was a Scottish shepherd with a border collie dog called blackbob.
Every week they would have an adventure where blackbob would save the day! Finding someone down a well or preventing a catastrophe of some sort, or bringing the doctor to the rescue if his master took ill! It was great stuff for a ten year old!!!

i thought you meant some member on here lol.i'm a bit slow today good one lol. :D
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: tosca100 on April 02, 2010, 12:53
OH says to put toms etc in pots this year in case we sell the house, easier to move. He's hoping! 6 months and a price drop and not a sniff! :(
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: suesowsseed on April 02, 2010, 13:52
Can someone please tell me what 'OH' stands for?  Its been bugging me for ages 
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 13:55
Can someone please tell me what 'OH' stands for?  Its been bugging me for ages 

other half,hubby or wife lol.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Trillium on April 02, 2010, 14:37
We have loads of short forms on here, like DD - darling daughter (or it could be Digger Dave, one of our currently absent members  :D), SWMBO - she who must be obeyed, LOL - lots of laughs, etc.

As for the growbag toms, I'm pretty sure John had a pic somewhere with his toms, a growbag slit, with a pot with extra soil inserted into the top. This gives the toms much more root space than just the bag which they'll quickly outgrow.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Ice on April 02, 2010, 17:08
Just don't go nuts with the abbreviations as they can get confusing to some members.  Also, some members (me) find them irritating. :tongue2:
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Goldfinger on April 02, 2010, 17:19
Anyway, back to the tomato question....

I got my dad some of those big fish boxes, the hard plastic ones, not the polysyrene ones.

He's go a geenhouse, I HAVEN'T  :tongue2: :tongue2:

Every spring he just stacks them in his trailer, goes to the farm, loads them with muck, re stacks them, Bobs your uncle.....

Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: strangerachael on April 02, 2010, 18:22
pots! I find growbags are too sprawly and take up too much space and are more difficult to water. Last year I used our ex-recycling boxes - two toms to a box.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Jodie A on April 02, 2010, 18:47
Flower buckets here too!  Much easier to move around.  If you remove about one third plus of the leaves off your tomato plants it helps the air circulate and lets light  through to the fruit and you can then put the pots closer together.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: mumofstig on April 02, 2010, 18:52
One side of my greenhouse is soil, but on the otherside...........I use growbag compost, but tip it into pots (the free flower bucket ones) which stand in any old container I can find, that will hold an inch or so of water :)
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Ivah on April 02, 2010, 19:45
I use plastic rings on top of growbags.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: unconcerned on April 02, 2010, 19:48
I use flower buckets and growbags cut in half on their sides for depth.

What worries more is sometimes cucumbers and tomatoes together tend not to always work with me and the tomatoes suffer
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 19:56
Anyway, back to the tomato question....

I got my dad some of those big fish boxes, the hard plastic ones, not the polysyrene ones.

He's go a geenhouse, I HAVEN'T  :tongue2: :tongue2:

Every spring he just stacks them in his trailer, goes to the farm, loads them with muck, re stacks them, Bobs your uncle.....



no i'm not :D
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Goldfinger on April 02, 2010, 20:04
Not you, sorry.  :blink:

In the saying I mean't......... ??? ???
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 20:06
Not you, sorry.  :blink:

In the saying I mean't......... ??? ???

joking lol
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: chris23005 on April 02, 2010, 20:17
One side of my greenhouse is soil, but on the otherside...........I use growbag compost, but tip it into pots (the free flower bucket ones) which stand in any old container I can find, that will hold an inch or so of water :)

I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from? :unsure:
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 20:22
One side of my greenhouse is soil, but on the otherside...........I use growbag compost, but tip it into pots (the free flower bucket ones) which stand in any old container I can find, that will hold an inch or so of water :)

I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from? :unsure:

the free flower bucket shop of course. :D
recycling bins are better.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: mumofstig on April 02, 2010, 20:29
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I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from?

Most of the big supermarkets get their cut flowers delivered in black buckets. If you ask nicely in most stores they are free, or sometimes 10 for 99p (almost free) :lol:
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Elcie on April 02, 2010, 20:49
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I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from?

Most of the big supermarkets get their cut flowers delivered in black buckets. If you ask nicely in most stores they are free, or sometimes 10 for 99p (almost free) :lol:

I have been successful getting free ones in local and large Tescos.  I haven't asked for ages though.  I recently bought some in Morrisons after reading on here that they sell them.  I must admit I have been looking for months and never saw them.  Plucked up the courage to ask someone and they went off and got them and put tape on them for me, so just ask and there they are.  A bargain whether free or 10 for 99p in my opinion.

Last year I used grow bags and flower buckets and I preferred the flower buckets to be honest so won't be bothering with grow bags this year I don't think.  Although I may buy some grow bags and tip the compost into flower buckets.  Just to be awkward!
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: chris23005 on April 02, 2010, 20:51
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I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from?

Most of the big supermarkets get their cut flowers delivered in black buckets. If you ask nicely in most stores they are free, or sometimes 10 for 99p (almost free) :lol:

Ooooooh! I thought that the flowers turned up in boxes or such like and they put them in the buckets so they were part of the fixtures. :blush:

Although ........... I haven't got a greenhouse, but maybe they would look better in buckets outside than in growbags. I HATE seeing growbags messing up the garden - all that advertising! It wouldn't be so bad if they were plain black or something! :mad:
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Goldfinger on April 02, 2010, 21:11
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I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from?

Most of the big supermarkets get their cut flowers delivered in black buckets. If you ask nicely in most stores they are free, or sometimes 10 for 99p (almost free) :lol:

Ooooooh! I thought that the flowers turned up in boxes or such like and they put them in the buckets so they were part of the fixtures. :blush:

Although ........... I haven't got a greenhouse, but maybe they would look better in buckets outside than in growbags. I HATE seeing growbags messing up the garden - all that advertising! It wouldn't be so bad if they were plain black or something! :mad:

If the 'bags were plain black, I learn't at skool  :blink:, that black absorbs heat. So, would it benefit the plant by having 'warmer' roots etc??

Does my question even make sense??????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 21:16
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I am probably being a bit thick here but I keep seeing references to "flower buckets - the free ones". Where the heck do you get free flower buckets from?

Most of the big supermarkets get their cut flowers delivered in black buckets. If you ask nicely in most stores they are free, or sometimes 10 for 99p (almost free) :lol:

Ooooooh! I thought that the flowers turned up in boxes or such like and they put them in the buckets so they were part of the fixtures. :blush:

Although ........... I haven't got a greenhouse, but maybe they would look better in buckets outside than in growbags. I HATE seeing growbags messing up the garden - all that advertising! It wouldn't be so bad if they were plain black or something! :mad:

If the 'bags were plain black, I learn't at skool  :blink:, that black absorbs heat. So, would it benefit the plant by having 'warmer' roots etc??

Does my question even make sense??????????????????????????????????????????????

yip
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: mumofstig on April 02, 2010, 21:32
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If the 'bags were plain black, I learn't at skool  , that black absorbs heat. So, would it benefit the plant by having 'warmer' roots etc??

IMO It would just make them dry out quicker :ohmy:
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: blackbob on April 02, 2010, 21:39
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If the 'bags were plain black, I learn't at skool  , that black absorbs heat. So, would it benefit the plant by having 'warmer' roots etc??

IMO It would just make them dry out quicker :ohmy:

add more water lol.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: mumofstig on April 02, 2010, 21:42
As long as you have the time to water your growbag more than once a day, that would be fine!
Personally I couldn't be bovvered ::)
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: chris23005 on April 02, 2010, 22:46
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If the 'bags were plain black, I learn't at skool  , that black absorbs heat. So, would it benefit the plant by having 'warmer' roots etc??

IMO It would just make them dry out quicker :ohmy:

add more water lol.

Oh dammit, I just wanted rid of the brightly coloured advertising!  ::) But seeing as most of you say that grobags are too shallow anyway, it doesn't matter cos I will just plant my toms in the garden and have done with it. Am not scientific enough to start thinking about heat/drying out etc, and besides it is getting late and my brain has switched off ........ ???
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: monsoon on April 04, 2010, 10:24
i was considering growing tomatoes in grow bags again this year, but they seem so thin, i'm sure i have 50l ones last year  ??? all i can find is puney 30l grow bags.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: nobby90 on April 04, 2010, 11:57
would there be a problem with plain old B&Q buckets with hole in the bottom??
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: hamstergbert on April 04, 2010, 15:33
I have for years grown my glasshouse toms (,peppers, cukes etc) in a mixture of flower buckets (more recently) and grobags with and without special plastic watering/feeding jobbies fitted (3 per growbag).  Last summer I recall someone on the site mentioning a trial of combining the two by fitting one of the growbag thingies onto the tops of each of their flower buckets.

The initial instinctive reaction was "that's brilliant!", the subesquent instinctive reaction was also "that's brilliant!" but recognising that sometimes the actuality may turn out to be counter-intuitive, any news on how the trial worked out, either from the original poster or from anyone else who was able to give it a go?  I am minded to give it a go myself, at least for a couple of toms, but it would certainly be useful if anyone out there has any suitable do and don't recommendations.
Title: Re: greenhouse tomatoes - growbag or large pots
Post by: Rangerkris on April 04, 2010, 15:36
I got some snazzy hanging bags from the £1 shop and we are going to try them this year for the tom's, i might just hang one on the neighbour's side as well hahahhaha they had a few bits that we had to many of last year.  The best bit is they will need a set of step's to get to the toms as there garden is 5 ft lower than our then the fence on the top. 

Will let you all know how we get on growing this way.