Rotation

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GardenShed

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Rotation
« on: February 18, 2014, 20:47 »
Hi, I'm interested to know about the different rotation methods people use - how many main beds do you use and what do you group together.  Also, if there is a particular type of veg you want more of i.e. to grow in two beds, how do you incorporate that into a rotation plan?

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 20:51 »
I largely forget what I plant where from year to year and thus have low risk of planting the same family in the same place more than a couple of years running.

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 20:58 »
i use a dont put roots in the same place as i did last year method and im quite lucky as my plot is quite large andhave it marked in various size beds ( 27in total) its a new allotment well 18mths old but myone before was on a old site and itworked for me but everyone has there own preference

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 21:25 »
Our garden veg area was split in 3 so we could do a 3 year rotation.

year 1

Plot 1  - Potatoes
Plot 2  - Brassica
Plot 3  - Legumes & Onions

Year 2
Plot 1  - Legumes & Onions
Plot 2  - Potatoes
Plot 3  - Brassicas

Year 3
Plot 1  - Brassicas
Plot 2  - Legumes & onions
Plot 3  - Potatoes

The only roots I grew were parsnips so we planted them with the potatoes. Carrots were in tubs.

We have just aquired an allotment and will be doing a 5 year rotation plan as we have more room.

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 08:53 »
I have two patches. The main one operates on a four-year rotation plan, the smaller one on a three-year rotation.

In the main patch, I have twelve long beds. Seven are 15 m long, the other five are 12 m long. All are about 1 m wide. As I rotate, I have to accept that the years I am growing brassicas, say, in the 12 m beds, I will not be able to grow as many cabbages as when they are in the 15 m beds. We eat an awful lot of brassicas and members of the allium family, as will be seen below.

Three are given over to brasiccas
Three to solanaceae and legumes
Three to the allium family
Three to cucurbits and roots (parsnips, carrots, beetroot and celeriac)

Each year, I rotate to the next three beds, so it doesn't matter how I decide to vary the proportions of my plants as they will not be grown in the same bed till they have rotated several times. The roots bed runs directly next to the alliums in a bid to deter carrot fly. Each year, the roots also rotate into the first of the three beds given over to the alliums. So far (six years), I have not suffered from carrot fly, but that may just be good luck.

In areas of bed left empty for long enough, I often grow members of the legume family as a kind of croppable green manure, but I do make sure that I don't grow two crops of legume without at least one intervening crop of some other type.

The smaller patch benefits from a bit of protection from wind, so I tend to use it for vegetables that stay in the ground for cropping the following spring.

Here I have 21 beds of around 3 m long by 1 m wide. They are divided into three groups of seven, one for the alliums, one for the brassicas and one for the legumes. However, the only set of beds given over solely to these particular families is the one for brassicas. I overwinter garlic and onions in four of the beds, the other three this year I will be giving over to overwintering fennel, beetroot and radiccio. During the summer, I also use the legume and allium beds for tall veg (climbing beans and sweetcorn), or slightly more delicate plants (peppers and chillis).

Edited to add: lettuce go in all over the place! Plus I grow spinach in the winter vegetable patch.





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gavinjconway

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 17:52 »
Take a look at Johns info on the site here.... http://www.allotment-garden.org/crop-rotation/index.php
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Re: Rotation
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2014, 23:01 »
My plan is to have 5 beds for a 5 year rotation, with a couple of extra beds for miscellaneous crops.

5 year rotation will start with legumes, followed by brassicas, then potatoes, then alliums, then roots.

Does that sound logical in respect of which veg group follows which?

Thanks.

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 09:37 »
brassicas, then potatoes

Don't do them in this order if you intend to add lime for the brassicas' a lot of us do (if you have clubroot on your plot) - the potatoes are better off as far away from lime as possible  ;)

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 15:25 »
Some of the guidance I have read says that whilst you might add lime if necessary for brassicas, the following year manure can be added for the potatoes... wouldn't this solve the issue? 

So it would be:
legumes - manure/compost
then brassicas - compost and lime if necessary
then potatoes - compost/manure
alliums - compost
roots - compost and lime if necessary

Anyone else follow brassicas with potatoes?

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 15:29 »
The idea is to get the pH of the soil down again before you plant potatoes (at least partially to prevent scab which likes high pH) so it probably all depends on your soil, how much/if you're adding lime and how acid your manure is...or it might just be easier to leave a bigger gap between the two...
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mumofstig

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2014, 16:20 »
Easier to do it this way..............
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Year 1 - Beans/peas,
Year 2 - followed by Brassica,
Year 3 - followed by Onion family,
Year 4 - followed by carrots/parsnips,
Year 5 - followed by potatoes, (add lime in winter),
and back to the beginning



http://www.keirg.freeserve.co.uk/diary/tech/rotation.htm

Also read Bob Flowerdew's comments about rotation on the same site ;)
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 16:21 by mumofstig »

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GardenShed

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Re: Rotation
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 16:53 »
Thanks for the advice, that's really helpful.



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