[Rubellite]

Sorry, Rough, got to chuckle 

[chickenlady]

See! and people say pigs are stupid!  after working with them for many years i knows they are  very cunning! 
do feel for you though Rough! all that worry and stress only for it not to happen! 

Debbie

[too many girls]

come monday morning.....................when the pigs will obviously know somethings up and that Ruffle has to be there before 12, i bet they won't go in untill half past:lol:

[dizzylizzie]

 ...oh well, he'll just have to keep them ...i mean what can you do if they just wont go in?

[too many girls]

there is nothing more annoying (or temper provoking) than an animal that won't go in a trailer (horses mainly) i have seen the most easy going and placid people (me ) completely lose it over a stubborn horse, i think if Ruffle doesn't get them in on monday before 12 he'll cheerfully sling them on the bbq as is

[Roughlee Handled]

I have had that experience with horses as well.  A rearing 16.2 horse is no fun when you have hooves inches from your nose.  I have found that a Chifney bit works wonders.





I cannot unfortunately use one on a pig.  I did have a regular walker come past and offer me his dog lead!!!!!!!!!!

They had there breakfast again in the trailer!! Not much encouragement needed. Oh well learning cure. 

[John]

You're not eating the horses as well are you?? 

[too many girls]

i have found that long reins attached to the sides of the trailer (stops them diving off the ramp) and crossed over behind the horse and a broom up the bum works wonders
what annoys me most is when they go in and promptly reverse out before i've had time to put the bar up.

[Roughlee Handled]

You're not eating the horses as well are you?? 

ER had crossed my mind. Espcaily when the stand on your feet. That realy hurts as painful as being kicked in the ......

Hey TMG try this.

[too many girls]

chip won't fit

[Roughlee Handled]

ARRRRG FFFFFING PIGS

I am going to go and cancel monday as holiday and calm down and I will be back

[too many girls]

what have they done now?

[Roughlee Handled]

OK slightly calmer.
My source of information is slightly lacking.  Though very nice and very helpful and a good person.
She lives on a farm all her life and has kept and sold pigs for 5 years. Normally sold pigs to people that have kept them before.

I have been keeping pigs slightly naughtily!!
Though ignorance is not a defence I thought I had done everything by the book.

I have a DEFRA holdings number.
I have read the web page = http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/id-move/pigs/index.htm
The pigs are tagged/identified in one ear.
The AML2 form (Pig Movement Licence)was finished and sent to the local trading standards when I went and got the pigs.

So I ring Local Trading Standards to ask for a new AML2 form as I spoilt the last one by filling it out before loading and dated and signed it.
Local Trading Standards "Can I have your holdings number....."
LTS "Your not a registared keeper of pigs, You have no heard number."
Me "Oh B"gger"
LTS "I will give you the Number of your local Animal Health Office you will need a number and tag from them"
Me "Thank you"
Local Animal Health Office "The pig team are a bit pushed at the moment can I take your number and get some one to call you back."
Me "They are supposed to be going to slaughter this Monday."
LAHO "OK I will try and get someone to you ASAP."
Half an Hour Later.
LAHO "Hello firstly we need to registrar you as a keeper of pigs, you will then get a herd number, then they must go to slaughter with two tags one for the breeder and the other one for your heard number."
Me "Oh B"gger"
LAHO "We are between systems at the moment. You are now registered as a keeper of pigs. But you will have to wait till Monday when we will download the information to the old system that creates the herd numbers and then it is checked and then a letter is sent to you with your herd number. At that point you can order the tags"
Me "Oh B"gger"
So the pigs now have a bit longer to wait.  I am guessing at least 1 week may be two.  :blink:
On a better note I have been told by the wife that the pigs are top and tail asleep in the trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: added a bit of info about my source of information.

[joyfull]

What a carry on just for two little piggies 

[Roughlee Handled]

Hey they are not little.