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Eating and Drinking => Cooking, Storing and Preserving => Topic started by: chrissie B on January 15, 2008, 18:12

Title: cottage cheese
Post by: chrissie B on January 15, 2008, 18:12
i tryed the recipie from the forum and it wasent what i was hoping for , maybe i did something wrong it did seperate but didnt make the little lumps that is cottage cheese , any ideas  :(  :(  :(
chrissie b
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: John on January 15, 2008, 22:46
Home made cottage cheese comes out  differently to store bought, I suppose it's a matter of taste but we prefer the texture of home made -as in the recipe on the site Home Made Cottage Cheese (http://www.allotment-garden.org/allotment_foods/Making-Cottage-Curd-Cheese.php)
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: richyrich7 on January 15, 2008, 22:56
Quote from: "john"
Home made cottage cheese comes out  differently to store bought, I suppose it's a matter of taste but we prefer the texture of home made -as in the recipe on the site Home Made Cottage Cheese (http://www.allotment-garden.org/allotment_foods/Making-Cottage-Curd-Cheese.php)


Will give that a go John, OH likes it, don't know if I've ever tried it  :oops:
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: gobs on January 15, 2008, 22:58
I just read that recipe, which is in my mind a substitute for what it is traditionally made out of is yoghurt, so you don't need any acid additives, it's already there.

And it wont be lumpy, Chrissie, it is not supposed to be. I 've always wondered how they achieved that in supie cottage cheese. :lol:

which is a pain in using, to lose the juices and then put it through the food processor , a menace :!:
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: WG. on January 15, 2008, 23:07
I am half-way through my first attempt at making paneer so I will report later.
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: John on January 15, 2008, 23:14
Well until Larry agrees we can have cows on the lotty (and flying pigs) our cheesemaking and butter making tends to be when the supermarket has milk or cream at silly low prices because it's about to go out of date.
Interestingly our butter tasted far nicer than store bought. Creamier and lighter and all it was made from was some Tesco cream reduced to 5p a large tub.
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: lefrog on January 15, 2008, 23:43
reading the recipe for cottage cheese something made me somewhat twich,
the recipe state thou should not use homogenised milk.
homogenised milk or standardised is 97% of the sold milk in supermarket, I am a bit on the lasy side and wonder what would happen if you decide to use the "not to use milk"?
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: gobs on January 15, 2008, 23:47
It might not work at all. :lol:

Not taking the mick there, seriously, it's about bacteria naturally present in them. :wink:
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: lefrog on January 15, 2008, 23:50
I guess I ll have to give a visit to the local cow's :tongue2:
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: John on January 16, 2008, 09:23
Quote from: "lefrog"
reading the recipe for cottage cheese something made me somewhat twich,
the recipe state thou should not use homogenised milk.
homogenised milk or standardised is 97% of the sold milk in supermarket, I am a bit on the lasy side and wonder what would happen if you decide to use the "not to use milk"?


Most milk sold in supermarkets is pasteurised, homogonised milk is also called UHT (the stuff in cardboard boxes that keeps for months)
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: Scribbler on January 16, 2008, 10:09
In the olden days you had milk delivered and it had cream on the top. Supermarket milk, even full fat, doesn't have cream. I thought this was homogenised - ie all the same, top to bottom.
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: mushroom on January 16, 2008, 10:29
Quote from: "john"

Most milk sold in supermarkets is pasteurised, homogonised milk is also called UHT (the stuff in cardboard boxes that keeps for months)


Homogenised is not a synonym for UHT, they are different processes, and they are applied for different reasons.. although homogenised milk may also be ultra-heat treated. :wink: [pedantic mode=off]
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: John on January 16, 2008, 10:43
Quote from: "mushroom"
Homogenised is not a synonym for UHT, they are different processes, and they are applied for different reasons.. although homogenised milk may also be ultra-heat treated. :wink: [pedantic mode=off]


Well, live and learn, thanks..  Will you be staying long?  :D

Anyway, with the recipes section they're Val's baby. I can and do cook but she's far better than me. No formal training but she did run a vegetarian cafe in the mists of pre-history and (whispers) her chutneys are much nicer than some made by a relative who is a trained chef but we don't tell him.
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: mushroom on January 16, 2008, 10:59
Quote from: "john"

Well, live and learn, thanks..  Will you be staying long?  :D


:D

Quote from: "john"

Anyway, with the recipes section they're Val's baby. I can and do cook but she's far better than me. No formal training but she did run a vegetarian cafe in the mists of pre-history and (whispers) her chutneys are much nicer than some made by a relative who is a trained chef but we don't tell him.


I have to try them. Additionally, I'm looking for a chutney that has hardly any sugar, if such a thing exists, not sure if it does though - isn't sugar required to make it gloopy?
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: WG. on January 16, 2008, 11:04
Quote from: "mushroom"
I'm looking for a chutney that has hardly any sugar, if such a thing exists, not sure if it does though - isn't sugar required to make it gloopy?
That would be more of a pickle IMO.  Sugar is part of the preservation process in a chutney.
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: mushroom on January 16, 2008, 11:29
Quote from: "WG."
That would be more of a pickle IMO.  Sugar is part of the preservation process in a chutney.

Yeah, figured as much  :( oh well...
I do make 'chutney' but I called it 'chutney' because I don't know what the hell i'm talking about. I make an aubergine chutney with onions, vinegar, brine and aubergines. But I can't get the consistency like a chutney because of the lack of sugar, drat :(
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: John on January 16, 2008, 11:29
Sugar has a preservative effect as David says. Something about killing bacteria through osmosis - the sugar sucks the water out of the bacteria's cells.

Vinegar is also a preservative (the acidity?) and chutneys combine both effects. I think if you reduce the sugar you will find it doesn't keep.

Val made some cranberry sauce that had vinegar in and so reduced sugar - far tastier than the shop bought stuff where all you can taste is sugar. I've just checked and it's on the site, She made the last batch with red wine vinegar instead of white and the only criticism I'd make is a little heavy on the cloves. But I ground them....

Cranberry Sauce Recipe (http://www.allotment-garden.org/recipe/235/cranberry-sauce-recipe/)

Also - try this Hot Aubergine Chutney (http://www.allotment-garden.org/recipe/11/vals-recipe-for-hot-aubergine-chutney/)
Title: cottage cheese
Post by: WG. on January 18, 2008, 21:41
Quote from: "WG."
I am half-way through my first attempt at making paneer so I will report later.
The paneer was a qualified success.

Success : It worked.  It stayed together when fried.  I liked it.

Qualified : You don't get much for 2 litres of milk.  Mrs G didn't like it.