Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Chatting => Chatting on the Plot => Topic started by: mrs bouquet on July 18, 2019, 12:20
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Without necessarily wanting to pry, have you ever had anything of this kind. Did you find it helpful. Is it to do with your mind set. I had acupuncture once along time ago, for the back problem, but didn't find it made any difference, except that my purse was lighter. Maybe that is the idea ! If I were ever to consider any now, perhaps reflexology. Even if it didn't work, it probably is a nice sensation :) regards Mrs Bouquet
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I tried acupuncture as well many years ago for tennis elbow. It didn't have any effect.
I mainly self medicate now with Chablis. (http://emoticons.datahamster.com/wine.gif)
My current impediment is cracked ribs, alternative therapy definitely doesn't work for that kind of pain.
Alternative therapies that work are called medicine. Co-codamol is the current working alternative therapy.
Alternative therapies that don't work well are called alternative therapies.
Muscle manipulation can be of great benefit. I have been seeing the same osteopath for 30 years, when my shoulder muscles go into stress induced spasm I can feel them twisting up over a few minutes & I know where my next call is going, but that's not really "alternative"
Something like reflexology can be of benefit and the routes of referred pain are interesting in the way they travel from one point on the body to another.
Same with Indian head massage. Some of our more regular complaints, head ache, neck ache start lower down, tell someone to relax and watch their shoulders drop!
Give them a go, they probably won't "cure" you but might help you to understand the condition and how best to deal with it.
I don't know of your specific back problem but if it's long term, I doubt "alternative" will be of significant benefit.
Br
P.S. I have just read your procedure topic. I wish you all the best with that.
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I've always found Mr Growster a great source of various alternative therapies but they do tend to depend on what sort of mood you're in at the moment.
1) He stands there telling you what do in your garden then he tries to sell you his remedial balm at a an exorbitant price. Been there, done it and got the T-shirt!
2) He tried to sell a special oil emolument to a massage parlour. Unfortunately he didn't read the text message properly so he found himself in a local butcher's shop who needed some lubrication that was environmentally-friendly, so he promptly got his oil-can out
3) He was later discovered imbibing what can only described as ……………
answers on a beermat please.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:, yes I really have been sitting here laughing out loud at that Gc, Mrs Bouquet
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Trying to be sensible, after various remedial treatments in the past to relieve the pain in my neck due to severe osteoarthritis, I was offered Acupuncture and found it really worked but it was a one-off. Later on, my GP said one of her colleagues did Bowen's treatment so I went for it. It was one of the most strangest experiences I've ever had but it did the trick. I laid on a bed then she just gently lifted one of my legs to the side and back, did it again, then went out to her other patients. She came back and repeated the same thing to my other leg. At that time I thought this is a load of whatsits. After an hour when she did this to my arms and changed my position on the bed she told me to be very careful when I stood up. Very wise advice because I nearly fell over! I walked down the path to go back to work and I felt I was floating on air and had no pain whatsoever.
On the other hand and not being at all sensible, Mr G's ladies' embalming oil container had no specified ingredients on the container so I got him to send me one so I could help him out of a difficult situation because he'd run out of crayons. Having had a sniff I could detect a whiff of dilute formaldehyde, Friar's balsam, cloves, absinth, sea salt, a generous sprinkling of sea salt, pine resin and a slight whiff of 3-in-one oil. Mr G, have you not learnt by now that the best women want to grow old gracefully and would rather spend their savings on a weekly slap-up meal with chums rather than look like someone out of Alien?
I'll send your sample back free of charge if you promise to send it to Mr. Trump with this caveat "Don't put it on your hair!" :lol:
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Were you supposed to rub Growster's stuff in, or drink. :ohmy: I am going to check out the Bowen's treatment. Thanks for being serious and another really good laugh. Mrs B
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Bowen's is certainly something to investigate so try asking your GP if they can recommend one. Some therapies work for some and not for others but I'll keep my fingers crossed that it does for you.
As for drinking anything Mr G makes, I would strongly recommend not to have any naked flames in the near vicinity (no, I don't mean ex-lovers) because even if you like your parties to go with a bang, I don't think the neighbours would be too happy if their roofs got blown off in the middle of the night! Yesterday I put on a pair of nitrile gloves and applied a little bit on an old wood and leather chair. After ten minutes all the leather fell off but it didn't half bring the wood up nicely.
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I really don't know where all this opprobrium is coming from...
As I can never lie to my doctor, and have been put on abstention from tinctures for two days a week, (old war wound), Mondays and Tuesdays are spent doing all sorts of things which might never, ever be done!
As for therapies etc, a chum does raiki, abut I don't know why he can, because he's an estate agent! Another pal does some sort of relaxer stuff, and explains that all he's doing is pressing the buttons to restart the joint or whatever, from before it was poorly!
As for homeopathy, I just don't even think about it, although of course, a dose of deadly nightshade, or a rub-down with a foxglove might change my mind...
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:, and please don't mention Estate Agents :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: Mrs Bouquet
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Opprobrium from me? As if GG would do such a thing!
MB, I hope you spotted that he would prefer a rub-down with foxgloves rather then use his unguent so that says something, and I also hope his relaxer pal isn't using any sort of illegal joint manoeuvring nor tampering with Mr G's shirt buttons he tore off when his GP made him tee-total for two days because Mrs. G spent a lot of time sowing them back on with bailing twine in preparation for the following Monday.
As for an estate agent being into Reiki (NOT Raiki Mr. G as that's a Japanese techno producer and DJ to boot) I might just get some training in it so I can influence my estate agent who's rather lacking in his energy fields to get a shift on and get our sales brochure done as we specified because 6 weeks on it's still not been finalised. >:(
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"(NOT Raiki Mr. G as that's a Japanese techno producer and DJ to boot)"
Comes from the word 'creaky', which is what you feel when you walk in for a bit, and walk out several quid lighter...
The two days' abstinence has only been imposed because at nearly 42 years of age, my doctor ( a gorgeous lady), suggested that although the frame is in great shape, the carburettor needs a decoke now and then, so forget bursting buttons, think so much more work done in The Turrets!
Your estate agent needs getting rid of Goosey. That's just lazy, uncommercial non-business, which normally should take no longer than a few days at the most.
The market isn't that fiery at the moment, and they must need sales as a matter of urgency! Give them three days or you're off to a competitor, and don't pay the fees for the energy bits etc.
Growster has spoken in a serious voice!
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Sorry, Mrs B, I seem to have gone off on a tangent!
I'll belt up on 'alternatives' for a bit, as I don't want to make waves...
(and now I can't remember if I've taken the omeprezole and the statins...)!
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Growster, I didn't realise you were 42 :ohmy: :ohmy: Why are your two days Monday and Tuesday, Wouldn't Monday and Wednesday (say) be less painful. Or is it because they follow the weekend ;) ;)
In my serious voice, I agree with what you say about Gc Estate Agent. About going off on tangents - I love 'em. :D Mrs Bouquet
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GG's about to kick someone's butt because when I went on the website for our place for some reason half of their pics aren't showing even though they're all there on rightmove and zoopla. There's still no mention that we have over an acre of land so all we're getting that's it's a generous plot. We even asked them to put their Garstang number on our signpost and to add how much land we have but nothing's been done. Bah!
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Growster, I didn't realise you were 42 :ohmy: :ohmy: Why are your two days Monday and Tuesday, Wouldn't Monday and Wednesday (say) be less painful. Or is it because they follow the weekend ;) ;)
In my serious voice, I agree with what you say about Gc Estate Agent. About going off on tangents - I love 'em. :D Mrs Bouquet
You're very kind, Mrs B! In fact, I am doing Mondays and Wednesdays at the moment, the former for obvious reasons, but yesterday (no politics HERE Growster), I wanted to celebrate a little, so put off the evil second day to today! In fact, it's so hot, even tinctures are unwelcome, it's just plenty of water etc!
To celebrate even further, my 'alternative therapy' has been to bike over to The Pinetum near here, but the paths aren't displayed at all well, and after noticing half the power was left, decided to get home in one piece! Now isn't that much better than being poked with a sharp stick, while humming a dirge?
Goosey has some of the best tangents ever, so her estate agent must dread the next call...
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The estate agent chap we're dealing with was off yesterday so I left a message with his secretary saying very calmly that I wasn't happy with the way things are proceeding. All is now done and sorted with our up-dated house brochure. If you want the link to see it on-line please let me know. (Mods, please note that this is just meant as a bit of fun).
As for alternative therapies, our lovely great-niece Louisa came the other day while her mum was milking. When asked what she wanted to do she said "Colouring" which meant I got her book and crayoning pens we bought her and it kept her quite happy until she wanted to watch the Lion King DVD. (OMG, not again!) She sat there quite content then OH brought her tea. While she was stuffing it down I decided (with her permission of course) to colour in a page of her book for myself. I can't tell you how calming and relaxing it was and even she was impressed with what I'd done!
Mr G. You have some colouring pencils so get them out of the box and try doing it.
MB. Before you get some Bowen's treatment started, buy a child's colouring book and crayons so you can colour in whatever planet you're on in whatever colour you like. I made the astronaut on my page look a bit like Boris Johnson - ha!
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Colouring seems to have taken over from tapestry.
We were given some colouring books a couple of years ago, but the pics were so garish, we makde an excuse and left!
My alternative therapies at the moment are cryptic crosswords (like you, GG, I try to remember a clue and tease it for ages if I can't sleep), and also trying to find the magic chord on the Ipad's app 'Music Studio'.
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Growster, is this the link you wanted? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_chord
Anyway here's my bit of therapy for you both because I once tuned my little radio to Classic FM and suddenly heard the Skylark Ascending by Ralph Vaughan Williams quietly wafting over my veg garden. It just can't get better than that!
MY GARDEN
I have a place where I can go
Through Lad’s Love, lavender and thyme
Where the delphiniums and the columbine
Watch daisies dance in perfect time
As the foxgloves bow low.
I have a place where I can rest.
My worries gone in the soft night’s air.
The dewy grass. The loping hare.
All the evening scents are there.
They help me to my rest.
I have a place where I can find
No place for pity’s thoughts to hitch a ride.
The blowsy rose’s perfume is my guide.
I’m encircled by its pride
That always stills my mind.
I have a place where I can sit
And stroke the softest, softest fur
On whiskered face. A lazy, lazy purr.
Tail across my knee. A stretch. A stir.
“And is it time for tea? Is it?”
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Aw, that's lovely and thanks for taking the time to put it on our site. :) Mrs Bouquet
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She's a pretty good wordsmithette, isn't she, Mrs B!
I'm hopeless at poetry, although I do remember writing a two-page poem after being dumped by a girlfriend back in 1967...
It was based on those long songs Bob Dylan did back then, and 'Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands' was (and still is) a favourite, as it took up a whole side of an LP!
https://youtu.be/0c1NJPCN6nA (https://youtu.be/0c1NJPCN6nA)
Luckily, my effort hasn't survived...
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Growster, You must have been very sad :( :( to write such a long poem. As for colouring, I have been doing it for a few years now, especially in the winter-time. I have adult colouring books, but last year I did a funky monkey, and entered it in the Garden Show, "Any other Hobby". It one first. Colouring is so relaxing.
Estate Agents, not so relaxing. One rung me yesterday, and was talking about how they all say they are cash buyers. She said we feel like asking them have they got a suitcase full of money. Invariably it is not a cash purchase. That's why we say "All Buyers are Liars). Isn't it encouraging ::) ::) I have got to the stage now where it has been empty so long (next door to me) that I really don't want neighbours anymore. :D Mrs Bouquet
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Hello I have 2 alternative therapys one for back pain is inversion therapy it soon relieves back pain the other is for stress,a nice paddock with long grass and a strimmer after 5 minutes all stress is gone and grass is mowing nicely jezza
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Acupuncture is becoming much more common in westernised medicine now. Both my sister and brother were recommended it by their Drs after car accidents (one for whiplash and one for lower back problems). Like most things you need a block of 6 weeks to make it efficient.
Years ago I went through a spell of having the most painful backs of shoulders/neck to the point I could barely hold my own head up. Deep tissue massage and acupressure fixed it.
Generally I am all for ‘standard’ medicine. However I will also consider alternative therapies. Some of them are alternative because they haven’t had the research to prove they are effective. Research costs money and who is going to fund it? Certainly not the big pharmacy companies who normally fund research as they won’t get any money back from it....
I think if it isn’t going to harm you - go in with an open mind and try it. If it works, great (even if it is a placebo effect I don’t care - as the ailment is fixed haha). If it doesn’t work then nor harm done.
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Just got home yesterday from my back therapy. Under anaesthetic 6 injections into each vertebrae (spelling not good today must be the drugs :( ) I was told there would be no improvement for about 2 weeks. Then hopefully it may work, along with physio. If it doesn't, the next stage will be more needles into the spine. The procedure is called Radio Frequency Denervation, which means heat produced by radio waves destroys selective nerve fibres.
But the Hospital and attention I received was fantastic, It was a private hospital, so now I really do know how the other half live. :) Thank you all for your replies, they are all stored away in my mental filing cabinet. Mrs Bouquet