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Chatting => Design and Construction => Topic started by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 17:26

Title: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 17:26
Hi, someone from TRC forum let slip yesterday that this forum existed and I thought that in my quest knowledge and info in relation to vegetable growing, that I should sign up and show you my first venture. :)

The short story is that I have taken what was an abandoned garden and taken it from this.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/111/vegplot2.jpg)


(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1156/vegplot3.jpg)


To this in the space of less than a year. There are still jobs to carry out but as my aim for this year was to complete three beds, I haven't done to badly.

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7016/p1070922.jpg)

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2826/rszp1070827.jpg)

Was it worth it.. I think so.

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9246/rszp1070792.jpg)


I shall give the extended version a bit later, along with a few questions.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Gwiz on November 21, 2010, 17:38
That's pretty impressive by anyone's standards! Well done :)
What did you make the sides of your raised beds out of? is it timber, or some of that planking made from recycled plastic?
I wish I had enough room to have the same kind of set up for water collection. ;)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Knight Family on November 21, 2010, 18:03
Very nice indeed!!
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 18:13
That's pretty impressive by anyone's standards! Well done :)
What did you make the sides of your raised beds out of? is it timber, or some of that planking made from recycled plastic?
I wish I had enough room to have the same kind of set up for water collection. ;)

I'm fortunate enough to work with timber for a living, and get some very reasonable discount when buying, so decided upon using 200mm x 47mm pressure treated timber. My mistake was trying to be clever by using a specialist bitumen based paint. It just took way to long to apply and far to much effort to paint two coats onto every single board and peg. If ever I had to do this again, painting would not be an option.

With ref to the water storage, I may possibly have gone OTT with having six IBC tanks (6000litres) but hopefully if I have the tanks, then I won't ever need them. ;)
The tanks are fed via rain water, with all tanks apart from the first linked together top and bottom. The tanks then feed into a sunken animal water trough fitted with a ball valve. The theory was okay, but I need to add an in-line pump to increase the pressure and also then perhaps allow for a micro irrigation system to be fitted. Having said that, I found watering a very nice way of unwinding and to relax. :)

The netting on the tanks is there to allow a climbing plants to cover and hide them.

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/141/rszp1070835.jpg)


This is my latest addition, a free storage area.

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9175/rszdscf0331.jpg)


It is simply the front of a luton bodied lorry. Because they are mainly fibre glass they don't have a scrap value, so can be had for free.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Gwiz on November 21, 2010, 18:25
Ah! that explains the black boards then. The company I work for has used some of the recycled plastic boards in private gardens. I realy fancy having some on the allotment when my pressure treated timber ones give up the ghost.
Have you found that your water tanks have gone a little green on the insides? Some of our members here have used the black tanks and have had little problem with them.

I find watering a nice pastime too, Only we have to carry our water a little distance to get it on the allotment. That's not too bad at first, but after a while it gets a little "tiresome" ::)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: arugula on November 21, 2010, 18:33
Impressive looking stuff! :)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 18:44
Thank you all for the kind replies. :)

Ref the tanks. They didn't get filled until around late July, and the only problem to date has been with debris going into the first/primary tank. This is despite a shallow sump to catch the mess. I guess that it is another job to add to the list. Someone on a bike forum that use suggested something to add to the water to prevent it going green. I can't remember what it was at the moment, but will try and find out.

As an aside, I have to say that I can't beleive just how many useful and interesting threads that there are on this forum. I can see that the winter is going to pass quickly!
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: evie2 on November 21, 2010, 18:53
Hello EddieJ, that's very impressive, well done :D only one thing missing, a little flock of chickens :lol:
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 19:14
The chickens are a bone of contention. :(

I want them, my daughter wants them, but the boss doesn't. :(

There is also another problem in that I have kind of made a friend. A fox!

 I go out most evenings slug hunting and the fox has taken to coming with me and follows me around.
It's quite funny really, as I will be on one side of a bed, and the fox on the other. I'll often turn around only to jump out of my skin as it sits down right besides me. I don't even hear it coming. I did have to tell it off a few weeks ago, as it decided to chew my string lines while I was out there. Even in the day time if it is sunny, I will look out the window and see the two cats and fox sumbathing on the lawn together. :D
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: evie2 on November 21, 2010, 20:47
Ah yes, fox and chickens bad mix >:(

Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 21:25
To be fair, having access to a mini digger I could quite easily dig a very deep trench and bury the netting around the enclosure and also make it fully enclosed, but I would still hate to feel that even though fox proof* the chickens may feel stressed with a fox being so close.



* subject to human error.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: rachelr on November 21, 2010, 21:46
wow where did you get the luton truck top from. i have the space but the funding to create this is a little beyond me at the moment. I shall just drule and send lots of request letters to santa lol
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 21, 2010, 22:01
wow where did you get the luton truck top from.

As it happens I just happen to have another that doesn't have the side and rear section(if you see what I mean) I'm never going to use it, so you would be more than welcome to have it. The downside being that I am in Sussex.
Failing that, try to find a commercial vehicle breakers, or a commercial vehicle garage that takes in old utilities luton bodied vans to remove the bodies to make into tippers etc.

If you are uncertain what a Luton body looks like, this is an example. The bit that you require is the section over the cab.

(http://www.hopecommercials.com/stock/stock_images/vw_lt46_box_b06_guf.jpg)

And this is a closer view. I still need to fit shelving and possibly a set of doors to one side.

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4130/rszdscf0330.jpg)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: rachelr on November 21, 2010, 22:04
i would love it but agree sussex is a little too far to go I will have a furtal in the local scrappies. thanks
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Aunt Sally on November 22, 2010, 09:38
The tanks are fed via rain water, with all tanks apart from the first linked together top and bottom. The tanks then feed into a sunken animal water trough fitted with a ball valve.

Eddie,  I'm sure you've done it already but please make sure the sunken tank is covered when not in use to prevent small animals e.g. hedgehogs from falling in and drowning !
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 22, 2010, 16:25
Eddie,  I'm sure you've done it already but please make sure the sunken tank is covered when not in use to prevent small animals e.g. hedgehogs from falling in and drowning !

Don't worry, that would be more than my life  is worth! ;)
Normally there is a cover across it the tank that the watering cans sit on, and I have also now drained it empty ready for the winter ahead.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Yabba on November 22, 2010, 19:37
with all tanks apart from the first linked together top and bottom.

Why?

Sorry, I'm blonde but I really racked my brains but I'm lost as to why all are joined at the top, including first, and rest are joined top and bottom?

Best i could come up with, after several hours of blonde scratching of head, was something to do with vacuums, explained the pressure but failed to explain the first tank :(

Not that I'm ever gonna have 6 IBC's in my foreseeable future, just curious ;)

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Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 22, 2010, 20:30
The first tank also acts as a sediment tank to catch any rubbish that may and does enter. I can then just open the bottom valve without loosing water from the other tanks.
The first tank fills and then overflows into the second, and by having top and bottom pipe work I can control/shut off any tank without interfering with the rest. I probably haven't explained it very well, but it does work.
There are also two taps fitted into the system to run a hose from, and if a blockage ever occurs in the top overflow, I can rod it from either end by simply removing bung that is fitted.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Yabba on November 23, 2010, 09:23
Ah, now I see, thanks for the explanation ... all I need now is 6 IBC's :D

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Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Spana on November 23, 2010, 09:36
 So many good ideas,i think you should apply to go into the yellow book. :)

BTW, where are you :)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: dexyblue on November 23, 2010, 16:12
Excellent job, what have you used on your paths?
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on November 23, 2010, 21:41


So many good ideas,i think you should apply to go into the yellow book. :)

BTW, where are you :)

Yellow book as in BT? Do people still look at that? ;)

Sorry, I meant to fill out my profile and forgot. I'm from darkest east Sussex.



Excellent job, what have you used on your paths?

Thanks.

I'm afraid that with everything else that I do I always go OTT and never do things by half.

The pathways were obviously first dug out, I then laid a terram 1000, followed by compacted crushed concrete and hardcore, then finished te pathways off with Fittleworth stone. It still isn't finished yet, as te last stone was te wrong size, and I am now having to dig up the stone that has already been laid, add the new stone, then lay the old stone back over again. It's something that I could really do without, but sadly the second load of stone was just to big to use.

Hardcore.

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2374/dscf0204e.jpg)

Pathways showing the  terram.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6793/p1070764.jpg)

The second load of stone that was so coarse. Also note the three wheel barrows and only me doing the work. You have to be efficient in what you do!! :D

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2388/dscf0205v.jpg)

Wrong stone laid.

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5977/rszdscf0208.jpg)

Correct stone laid.

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8122/rszdscf0218.jpg)
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: dexyblue on November 25, 2010, 16:58
Thanks for your reply, like your photos too
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: missycat on November 27, 2010, 13:06
looks fantastic! You are certainly a perfectionist. I am both impressed and deeply jealous...
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on December 03, 2010, 15:17
looks fantastic! You are certainly a perfectionist. I am both impressed and deeply jealous...

Thanks.  :)

As well as being a perfectionist, I also suffer from a major fault of being very self critical. I have always been like it, and it bugs me to bits. I can look at other peoples work or projects, and generally only ever see the good in what they have done. The only exception being lazyness.
If someone has made an effort, and are proud of what they have done, then I would never knock it and I would always praise them for their work.
When it comes to my own stuff though, I keep trying to reach an unachievable standard only see the negative. I would love to be completely happy with something that I have made, but just see it ever happening. I have come close a few times, but I'm not there yet.
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Spana on December 03, 2010, 19:03
Whats your star sign Eddie, Virgo i bet :lol:
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on December 03, 2010, 20:21
Whats your star sign Eddie, Virgo i bet :lol:

Aries. :tongue2: :D

This goes to explain why it still isn't finished! :lol:

Pisces popped into my head for you?
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: Spana on December 03, 2010, 21:04
As well as being a perfectionist, I also suffer from a major fault of being very self critical. I have always been like it, and it bugs me to bits. I can look at other peoples work or projects, and generally only ever see the good in what they have done. The only exception being lazyness.
If someone has made an effort, and are proud of what they have done, then I would never knock it and I would always praise them for their work.
When it comes to my own stuff though, I keep trying to reach an unachievable standard only see the negative. I would love to be completely happy with something that I have made, but just see it ever happening. I have come close a few times, but I'm not there yet.

I could have written your post above which made me think you were the same star sign as me :lol:
Title: Re: More raised beds!
Post by: EddieJ on December 03, 2010, 21:35
See.. There I go rushing head first in without first looking at the evidence, and reaching the wrong conclusion. Typical Aries!  Must try harder!:lol: