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Title: Growing garlic
Post by: Michael D on November 11, 2010, 17:19
Hi all   I haven`t  been able to get my garlic in yet, and now with all the rain  my plot is a bog,  would it be ok to plant the garlic in small pots and plant them out in spring. any advice pls.   Michael
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: fatbelly on November 11, 2010, 18:04
Micheal,
I have done the same thing, because of a plot move I couldn't get my Garlic in so had to put them in pots. They are now growing happily with root growth coming out of the bottom of the pots. I am keeping them in my unheated G/house until late February and planting them out then. Don't put them in too small a pot because mine are already busting out the bottom of my 4 inch pilots. The bigger the pot (within reason off course)then the more chance the roots can get going.   
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: AndyRVTR on November 11, 2010, 18:25
If planted in too small a pot they may get potbound.... why not wait and plant them direct when Spring arrives?  :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Trillium on November 11, 2010, 19:42
If you wait until spring to plant them out, they won't have as much time to size up or split into cloves. Better to plant in pots now and leave in a cool place and plant out later.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 11, 2010, 22:13
I've never done garlic before and planted some last month. The shoots are about 5cm tall and I have a question:
How many bulbs do you get per plant...just one right?
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: peapod on November 11, 2010, 22:14
Yes Munchkin
One clove planted gives one bulb that is then split into cloves
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 11, 2010, 22:58
thought so, just wanted to make sure :D
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on November 12, 2010, 00:06
I'm late with mine too but I'm going to plant them out this week-end and let them get on with it... 2 chances  ::)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Salmo on November 12, 2010, 08:38
If you plant them in early Spring they will yield OK but do not leave them too late. If you do put them in pots keep them outside rather than in a greenhouse or else they will get too tall and suffer when you plant them out.

They do need a cold spell to ensure they split into cloves but that is only below 10 C for 3 weeks. Or it may be only 10 days? Someone more knowledgable will probably tell us this

To make sure they get a cold spell you can put them in the bottom of the fridge which should be about 5 C.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Dirt Diver on November 12, 2010, 08:56
I planted over 4 weeks ago and nothing is coming though - would you agree this does not look good :( :( :(
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on November 12, 2010, 09:33
I planted over 4 weeks ago and nothing is coming though - would you agree this does not look good :( :( :(

Patience - you may yet get a result.

(How deep did you plant?)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: fatbelly on November 12, 2010, 11:26
Quote from: Dirt Diver link=topic=67711.msg 775061#msg 775061 date=1289552210
I planted over 4 weeks ago and nothing is coming though - would you agree this does not look good :( :( :(

Two seasons ago I planted mine in October and they didn't come up until early in January and they were fine.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Dirt Diver on November 12, 2010, 12:59


Patience - you may yet get a result.

(How deep did you plant?)

About 2 ins, was I wrong :ohmy:
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Trillium on November 12, 2010, 14:31
The average is about 1-1/2", so yes, you're okay with 2".

As for any growth showing, last year I planted mine in early Nov and didn't see a sign of them until April. I thought I'd somehow lost the lot, but ended up with an excellent crop. They'd been busy building a huge root system all winter, then big heads in spring. I had enough to give away some.

This year's were planted almost a month ago and still no show, but I'm not worried.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: bigben on November 12, 2010, 14:55
I planted over 4 weeks ago and nothing is coming though - would you agree this does not look good :( :( :(

I checked mine planted in Oct and none are showing but one was pulled up by birds and has loads of roots - yours will come!
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: mumofstig on November 12, 2010, 15:44
Mine are not through yet, either. It's pretty normal, so I'm not worried either  ;)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on November 12, 2010, 15:47
And mine are going to be so delighted to be out on the plot thet are going to rush (slowly) into action a catch up with those planted earlier.   :)

Well......... I can live in hope!!  ;)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: digalotty on November 12, 2010, 16:34
will anything else pull up garlic apart from birds, i have netted over the top of mine and still something has pulled it up :(
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: peapod on November 12, 2010, 16:59
And mine are going to be so delighted to be out on the plot thet are going to rush (slowly) into action a catch up with those planted earlier.   :)

Well......... I can live in hope!!  ;)

Snap!  :D
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 12, 2010, 18:02
how tall do they grow?
and how wide?
Is it ok to re-pot or does it kill them? (they're about 5cm now)

questions questions lol
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: peapod on November 12, 2010, 18:06
About a foot or so
Not very - 6" or so
 Yes you can repot them, but put them in a large enough pot in the first place and you can bung them straight out next year. They do like to build up a good root system as you can see from the posts above.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 12, 2010, 18:23
The 3 I've planted are in one long container, 4" apart. The tub isn't that deep...maybe 3" so I'm thinking I should re-pot to save their lives.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: peapod on November 12, 2010, 18:33
I agree  :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: shokkyy on November 12, 2010, 20:58
I planted mine a few weeks ago. Every single clove of Marco has shot up, now about 5 or 6" tall and looking very strong. But the Iberian White is looking a bit pathetic. Only about half of the cloves have shown at all, and even those are tiny. I've never grown either variety before. Does anyone know if Marco is always so much more vigorous than Iberian White, or have I just got a duff bulb of IW?
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Trillium on November 12, 2010, 21:11
It's like any other plant - some varieties just do better at fast growth than others. And, some garlic varieties simply aren't as large as others so you'll see smaller or even little top growth until spring. Check at harvest time next year and see if the smaller variety lived up to your hopes. Sometimes they'll surprise you.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on November 13, 2010, 00:19
Naughty old me just saves some of the cloves from the year before - they did well last year so I'm hoping for the same result...

As for type.... just something I spotted at our local garden centre (I think it was).... and I've kept them going for about three years now.

Probably done it all wrong but the crop was good and it keeps costs down.

Tomorrow... all being well... is the big "plant them day" as I really do want to escape to my plot for a couple of hours in the afternoon...
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Comfortably Numb on November 13, 2010, 07:47
I planted mine a few weeks ago. Every single clove of Marco has shot up, now about 5 or 6" tall and looking very strong. But the Iberian White is looking a bit pathetic. Only about half of the cloves have shown at all, and even those are tiny. I've never grown either variety before. Does anyone know if Marco is always so much more vigorous than Iberian White, or have I just got a duff bulb of IW?

I've planted Marco this year for the first time. I planted on the 26th October and they are racing away, although not as high as yours yet  :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: shokkyy on November 13, 2010, 17:34
[quote author=Comfortably Numb link=topic=67711.msg775647#msg775647 I've planted Marco this year for the first time. I planted on the 26th October and they are racing away, although not as high as yours yet  :)
[/quote]

Oddly, more cloves of Marco have come up than I planted. Now, that's keen :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 13, 2010, 20:42
Is there any need to stake them?
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: mumofstig on November 13, 2010, 20:52
no they grow up straight like leeks :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 14, 2010, 09:37
Cool!
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Trikidiki on November 15, 2010, 23:26
My Early Wights are just up but no sign of Albigensian yet. Another batch of Early Wights plantd about a month later haven't shown yet.

All pretty much as last year when I got a great harvest
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Paul Plots on November 16, 2010, 10:57
Cool!

That's just what they love = loads of "cool"  ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Dirt Diver on November 16, 2010, 12:10
Hi

My Elephant are no show as well!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: realfood on November 16, 2010, 19:10
Elephant does not usually show for several months, but the roots will be growing mightily.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: eli on November 16, 2010, 20:14
hello all :-)

i need to buy myself last-minute hardneck garlic, nowhere near me sells it (i live in brighton) so it'll have to be via the internet.
do you folks have any recommendations?
i'm on a limited budget, and they all seem to have such expensive postage costs, so somewhere reputable with cheap/postage would be great.
thanks in advance for any tips or leads :-)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 17, 2010, 11:37
Another garlic question from the noob...
Can I plant any garlic clove now or do I have to plant cloves that have gone to seed or something?

The cloves that I've planted were bought on ebay and were kinda pricey so I'm guessing they were seeded cloves lol.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: mumofstig on November 17, 2010, 11:53
You can plant cloves from bulbs from the supermarket, but it's risky.
They may carry disease and secondly, they may not succeed in our climate...so it's up to you.

Certified disease free seed garlic is available cheaply in places like Wilkinson, (about a quid last time I looked) and I think it's worth the extra  :)
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Munchkin on November 17, 2010, 12:07
Ah thanks for that.
I measured the tubs that I just transplanted to and they are about 20cm deep. Someone said earlier that they should be 30cm deep for the root system....am I wasting my time with the stuff I planted?
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Sophie_Chilli on November 17, 2010, 13:20
I was also wondering if I could plant garlic (in pots) now?  I started in Feb this yr and possibly stuck to many cloves in each pot (pink garlic), which meant they all grew but only to a small size  :(  That was after I researched it as well! 
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: realfood on November 17, 2010, 19:14
While you can grow garlic in pots, you will get a much better crop with far less hassle, if you grow it in the open ground.
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Gleavo on November 17, 2010, 22:44
Ok, newbie so bear with this please...

a) I'd rather get 'growing garlic' than supermarket types but does wilkinsons stock it at the moment (or are all their seasonal aisles given over to rockin' santas/snowmen/penguins?)

b) do I split the bulbs into cloves or just plant them whole?

c) how far apart?

Thanks in advance again!
Title: Re: Growing garlic
Post by: Salmo on November 17, 2010, 23:32
Click GROWING HELP at the top of this screen for all your answers.