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Poultry and Pets => Pets without Feathers => Topic started by: azubah on August 06, 2009, 20:37
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When I mention 'pet food' to any elderly person they say that there was no tinned pet food in their day, and pets lived on scraps.
I was brought up with the idea that food was scarce in 'the old days' and there was starvation, no money, rationing, etc. and children were expected to clear their plates or they got no pudding.
Can anyone tell me where all these scraps came from? My cat and hens could not survive on our scraps as we hardly have any. Just the odd crust or a bit of gristle off the meat.
I have been puzzling over this for years. Should I take up another hobby, or is there nothing that can cure me?
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sorry but I think you're beyond a cure :lol: :lol:
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Not something I have ever wondered about but it does make you think!
Should have thought about it last night as my mum phoned me to challenge me to a new diet she is thinking of starting of her own ponderings. She is planning on seeing how it is to live on a diet defined by what she could have eaten on rationing which she remembers a little of) born 1942. Be fun to try but not sure I will manage the 3 months she has challenged me to.
What do you reaon? Anyone want to join us (probably not my cat!).
Oops, little Hijack, sorry.
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Not something I have ever wondered about but it does make you think!
Should have thought about it last night as my mum phoned me to challenge me to a new diet she is thinking of starting of her own ponderings. She is planning on seeing how it is to live on a diet defined by what she could have eaten on rationing which she remembers a little of) born 1942. Be fun to try but not sure I will manage the 3 months she has challenged me to.
What do you reaon? Anyone want to join us (probably not my cat!).
Oops, little Hijack, sorry.
sorry Kate, but i can't bake bread out of carrot peelings or whatever it was they used duing the war ??? so i'd be no good :D
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I've got the wartime kitchen book set by Marguerite patten and whilst some of the recipes look good others are seriously very strange :lol:
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I think I could manage on a war-time ration as fish and chips were not rationed. I could not eat all that marmalade though. 2lb per month !!
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I do believe that the nation was much healthier and had a better diet then than now.
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this is the ration for an adult per week:-
Bacon and ham - 4oz
Meat to the value of 1s 2d, - sausages were not rationed but difficult to obtain, offal originally not rationed but sometimes formed part of the meat ration.
Butter 2oz.
Cheese 2oz - sometimes this varied and went up to 4oz or even 8oz.
Margerine 4oz.
Cooking fat usually 4oz but was known to drop to 2 oz.
Milk 3 pints but sometimes down to 2 pints.
Skimmed dried milk 1 packet every 4 weeks.
Sugar 8oz.
Preserves 1lb every 2 months.
Tea 2oz.
Eggs 1 shell egg a week if available - but sometimes 1 every 2 weeks.
Dried eggs 1 packet every 4 weeks.
Sweets 12oz every 4 weeks.
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But people were forced to grow lots of vegetables to supplement the rations.
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And I get a lot more than 1 egg a week!
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I do believe that the nation was much healthier and had a better diet then than now.
That's what my Mum was thinking and what prompted the challenge.
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TMG not come across bread made with carrot peelings yet but have found mock apricot flan which uses grated carrots instead of the apricots :lol: :lol:
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this is the ration for an adult per week:-
Bacon and ham - 4oz
Meat to the value of 1s 2d, - sausages were not rationed but difficult to obtain, offal originally not rationed but sometimes formed part of the meat ration.
Butter 2oz.
Cheese 2oz - sometimes this varied and went up to 4oz or even 8oz.
Margerine 4oz.
Cooking fat usually 4oz but was known to drop to 2 oz.
Milk 3 pints but sometimes down to 2 pints.
Skimmed dried milk 1 packet every 4 weeks.
Sugar 8oz.
Preserves 1lb every 2 months.
Tea 2oz.
Eggs 1 shell egg a week if available - but sometimes 1 every 2 weeks.
Dried eggs 1 packet every 4 weeks.
Sweets 12oz every 4 weeks.
i could eat that lot for breakfast and still be hungry :lol:
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Once we were told to feed our dog on scraps only as she was getting bad tempered!! :blink: We were told it was to do with her blood sugar. (border collie by the way) Well after a few days of feeding her fruits and general cr*p we decided it wasn't working (imagine cleaning it up!!!) :ohmy:
War time recipes were discusting I know as Alistair has just done a project at school about WW2 I think I re-lived it by the end!!!
Kate if you think you can do it good on ya girl :nowink: Personally I think you are fine as you are!!!!
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I would imagine the "scraps" pets were given were mainly veggie peelings, fruit peel, cores, stale bread maybe? Although isn't that where bread n butter pudding came from, using up old bread????
Sorry, slightly off topic but was talking to an elderly neighbour recently she told me it was her job after school to "mash" all the peelings from whatever her mum was cooking for their dinner to feed the chickens.
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Our scraps today were:
1 melon skin.
melon seeds..I give these to the hens anyway.
a small quantity of wispy potato skins from scraped new potatoes.
and that's all. We ate all the rest.
I could not feed the cat or three hens on that or they would attack me when I opened the back door.
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TMG not come across bread made with carrot peelings yet but have found mock apricot flan which uses grated carrots instead of the apricots :lol: :lol:
I cooked that for some 'war-time cookery' at the local primary school, it really tasted 'apricotty'. Also made carrot cookies, (lovely) and 'mock banana' which was boiled and mashed parsnips with added banana flavouring. It fooled a lot of pupils! My mother-in -law remembers having this in a children's home during the war and said it was the highlight of the week. We don't know we're born!
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Our rabbits diets are at least 50% scraps. It just means the green stuff that would usually go in the compost bin goes through them first. Melon skin, carrots tops, bolted lettuce, broccoli/cabbage leaves, raspberry/blackberry/apple prunings, grass, weeds etc.
They could live on it if it wasn't for the convenience of hay and a pinch of dry food for treats.
I imagine in wartime the rabbits would then of fed people and those scraps fed the dog/cat. Cats are pretty good at supplementing their diet with mice etc. anyway.
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My Mum was talking about "kettle broth".
Consisted of bread soaked in warm water and seasoned with salt and pepper!
Times must have been hard.
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My dogs eat a raw diet which probably consists of what many would term scraps, and they are healthier for it. Bones with very little meat, i.e chicken carcasses, turkey necks, unwashed tripe, they love pig tails! Our local pig farm saves them for me when they do their butchering. Now, I was brought up to believe that dogs shouldn't eat pork or chicken bones..............(cooked chicken bones should not be fed).
Think back to your childhood, did you know a dog with epilepsy, diabetes etc?
Oops, sorry, you've started me off again.......I'll slip away now!! ::)
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Now, I was brought up to believe that dogs shouldn't eat pork or chicken bones..............(cooked chicken bones should not be fed).
yes, I always thought dogs shouldn't eat chicken bones as they "splinter" - bet he licks his lips when he see all your chickens :D
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My Mum was talking about "kettle broth".
Consisted of bread soaked in warm water and seasoned with salt and pepper!
Times must have been hard.
:(
My dogs eat a raw diet which probably consists of what many would term scraps, and they are healthier for it. Bones with very little meat, i.e chicken carcasses, turkey necks, unwashed tripe, they love pig tails! Our local pig farm saves them for me when they do their butchering. Now, I was brought up to believe that dogs shouldn't eat pork or chicken bones..............(cooked chicken bones should not be fed).
Think back to your childhood, did you know a dog with epilepsy, diabetes etc?
Oops, sorry, you've started me off again.......I'll slip away now!! ::)
my springer is fed raw - hardly any "poop to scoop either"
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my springer is fed raw - hardly any "poop to scoop either"
:lol: :lol:
Wey hey, a fellow barfer!!!! :D :D
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I am a little surprised that nobody has mentioned Woolton Pie (http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/woolton.html) yet in this thread, especially if aiming to try rationbook cuisine. (Still got my juvenile ration book in a drawer. Ye gods where do the years go)
The Woolton pie is not scraps by any means, but still an ingredients list that feels as though a page has somehow been accidentally lost along the way, and generally described as "delicious" only by those for whom munching one is simply an experimental diversion in an otherwise much more rich diet and not part of a daily grim gustatory trudge.