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Growing => General Gardening => Topic started by: Remy on April 25, 2009, 11:15

Title: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Remy on April 25, 2009, 11:15
I've got quite a few lilly of the valley in my garden, although I ejoy the sight & fragrance they give me, they are starting to take over a bit. I don't wamt to throw them away but was going to transplant some in the front garden.

When is the best time to do this & will the plant survive?
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: celjaci on April 25, 2009, 13:33
It is reccomended to divide after flowering so should move well then but if you dig large clumps out with a good spadefull of soil it should move any time - it is pretty tough really.
Just give it a good soak after moving should be fine
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: mumofstig on April 25, 2009, 13:35
if it were me i'd move them in the autumn to give them time to settle down before flowering again.
Think it's a bit late to do it this year, specially as we've had a warm few weeks
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Stripey_cat on April 26, 2009, 21:48
It's normal to move them "in the green", any time from when they emerge to just after they flower.  Obviously, if you can wait for them to flower you'll get a better display than if you disturb them first.  They don't survive well being transplanted during the dormant period (from when the leaves die down in early-mid summer through until the end of winter) - you can lose the whole lot if you're unlucky.
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: mumofstig on April 26, 2009, 22:11
It's normal to move them "in the green", any time from when they emerge to just after they flower.  Obviously, if you can wait for them to flower you'll get a better display than if you disturb them first.  They don't survive well being transplanted during the dormant period (from when the leaves die down in early-mid summer through until the end of winter) - you can lose the whole lot if you're unlucky.
Funny.....i've been lucky then cos thats when i've always moved them and never lost any yet :D
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on April 26, 2009, 22:11
It's normal to move them "in the green", any time from when they emerge to just after they flower.  Obviously, if you can wait for them to flower you'll get a better display than if you disturb them first.  They don't survive well being transplanted during the dormant period (from when the leaves die down in early-mid summer through until the end of winter) - you can lose the whole lot if you're unlucky.

Good advice - definitely "in the green" and then they are as tough as old rope..... especially if you transplant to somewhere suitable....

We have a mass in a very damp and quite cool / shaded spot....gradually popping up in the lawn too but the mower helps keep them back - just!

Take care - I think they are poisonous.... so avoid mixing with the salad leaves!!  ::)
 
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Remy on April 26, 2009, 22:14
Ok will do it in acouple of week
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Stripey_cat on April 28, 2009, 12:40
Funny.....i've been lucky then cos thats when i've always moved them and never lost any yet :D

I think if you dig up a whole clump and replant immediately you'll get away with it, it's when people clean them up and dry them off that it goes horribly wrong.
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on April 28, 2009, 19:17
Funny.....i've been lucky then cos thats when i've always moved them and never lost any yet :D

I think if you dig up a whole clump and replant immediately you'll get away with it, it's when people clean them up and dry them off that it goes horribly wrong.

Yep.... done that and it did....go horribly.... well, nothing - - - - not a shoot.
Move them green and they hardly notice as long as they get their feet in the cool  8)
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Trillium on April 28, 2009, 20:03
I had to clean out the masses of plants I had because they were taking over. I literally ripped them out by the leaves and any that landed on the ground and were forgotten simply rooted back in by themselves. Tough? Definitely. I had roundup them 3X to finally kill them off. I still find the occasional runner and immediately dig it out as I'm now fed up with them.
Did you know that the lily of valley scent is the only one that must be manufactured? The flowers simply won't yield their fragrance as you can with roses and such.
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on April 29, 2009, 00:27
A great-aunt of mine, from Somerset, gave some to her sister-in-law (my grandmother) so Lilly of the Valley moved to the Big Smoke and from there down to sunny Sussex... then a transplant from my mother's garden to mine... they've been in the family for around 100 years!  ::)

And.... we have the family Aspidistra too... It was a wedding present to my grandparents and now sits in my mum's place... my wife is next in-line.  ???

Amazing how hardy some plants are. When my mum was little she cleaned the leaves with furniture polish  :blink: but it survived. About 20 years ago it was repotted for the 2nd time in its life. Just as well it doesn't grow outside all year  :tongue2: or there'd be another weed on the loose!!
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: sunshineband on April 29, 2009, 20:42
Does it flower, Learner?
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on April 29, 2009, 23:37
Does it flower, Learner?

Not once as far as I know.... and I think someone would have told me  if it had.

Do they?
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: sunshineband on May 01, 2009, 06:42
Yes, they do, with weird flowers at ground level that at dark purple in a kind of ring -- many years ago when I was at school (yes I can just about remember that far back hahahaha) there was an aspidistra in the old greenhouse on the roof and it flowered every year.
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on May 01, 2009, 19:41
Yes, they do, with weird flowers at ground level that at dark purple in a kind of ring -- many years ago when I was at school (yes I can just about remember that far back hahahaha) there was an aspidistra in the old greenhouse on the roof and it flowered every year.

How much direct sunlight did it get? Ours does not take well to full sun and scorches although it appears to enjoy a bit of fresh air in the shade during summer.
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Remy on May 01, 2009, 20:24
Mine are sheltered by the fence so only get a little sunshine during the day
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Fruity on May 04, 2009, 20:25
Hmmm. I've noticed several of these have come up this spring in one of my beds that I weeded out a bit last year. A hardy, attractive plant is just what I need!  :D
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Lady Lottie on May 04, 2009, 20:41
My MIL brought some round for me about a fortnight ago.  They did come complete with a big lump of earth attached mind you so I just kind of unceremoniously dumped them into a "scrape" I made and watered them.  Looked out today and they look so fresh and green and perky - and one is starting to flower too.  :happy:
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on May 04, 2009, 21:50
A couple of years ago, after weeding a flower bed and thinning the Lilly of the Valley a little, I planted up a small ornamental wooden wheel-barrow with L of V. This spring it is chock-a-block full of flowers ready to bloom...looks gorgeous!     :)

As long as it has some shade it does well being a woodland plant.  ;)
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: sunshineband on May 04, 2009, 21:52
More than it should have done given the state of the leaves, which were very scorched and faded  ::)
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on May 04, 2009, 22:31
More than it should have done given the state of the leaves, which were very scorched and faded  ::)

I am conused..  ??? are we muddling Lilly of the Valley with Aspidistra..  :unsure:
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: sunshineband on May 04, 2009, 22:33
More than it should have done given the state of the leaves, which were very scorched and faded  ::)

I am conused..  ??? are we muddling Lilly of the Valley with Aspidistra..  :unsure:
Sorry you can tell I've been away and used no grey cells at all all weekend (no comment required there  :lol: :lol:) I did mean aspidistra of course. LoV would die with scorched and dessicated leaves really. Glad your wheelbarrow looks so good  :)
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: Paul Plots on May 04, 2009, 22:36
I must carry a camera with me - I never have one when I want to take a picture... when I do carry one it rains or is too dark!!

Dark pictures on their way.... later. LoV in bloom.......almost!  :)
Title: Re: Lilly of the valley
Post by: sunshineband on May 04, 2009, 22:38
I must carry a camera with me - I never have one when I want to take a picture... when I do carry one it rains or is too dark!!

Dark pictures on their way.... later. LoV in bloom.......almost!  :)

Hope it has a flash as piccies by torchlight are less than sucessful -- well mine wre useless at any rate  :lol: :lol: Look forward to the one of the barrow though ...