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Growing => Grow Your Own => Topic started by: GardenShed on January 09, 2014, 17:06

Title: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: GardenShed on January 09, 2014, 17:06
Wondering what people's preferences are regarding growing onions - do you do it from seed or from sets.  I've not grown onions before, but unless I'm missing something, growing from sets does not seem as interesting...?
I'm not sure I would find it enjoyable to plant a little onion that simply gets bigger, is it not more satisfying to grow from seed? 
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: mumofstig on January 09, 2014, 17:07
Some of us are growing from seed............
http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=111632.msg1266073#msg1266073
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: barley on January 09, 2014, 17:19
tried both ways and definitely prefer sets
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Post by: Muls on January 09, 2014, 18:10
Shallots are great from seeds, if you fancy trying them.
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Post by: JayG on January 09, 2014, 18:21
Onions from seed, like leeks, are quite easy as long as you're not the impatient type. Heat-treated onion sets should be resistant to bolting, although I've managed to get both types to bolt if I don't treat them right.  ::)

Shallots from seeds only produce one bulb per seedling in the first year - a shallot set should (easy for me to say :lol:) produce 6-8 individual bulbs in only a little more space than each seed-grown one would take up.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: diospyros on January 09, 2014, 19:12
I'm growing from seed this year 'cos I missed the planting time for sets, and I think it's cheaper in terms of initial outlay at least.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: mumofstig on January 09, 2014, 19:31
You haven't missed the planting time for onion or shallot sets  :dry:
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Post by: diospyros on January 09, 2014, 20:15
Quote from: mumofstig link=topic=111912.msg1271352#msg127 1352 date=1389295863
You haven't missed the planting time for onion or shallot sets  :dry:

I might have done, by the time I get round to doing it...  :dry: :dry:
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: GardenShed on January 09, 2014, 20:22
But am I missing something about onion sets - it just seems strange and a little pointless.  Fruit tress grow lots of fruit, potatoes grow lots of potatoes, strawberry plants grow lots of strawberrys, garlic clove will grow a bulb, but onion sets grow nothing, just get bigger.  If the motivation behind onion sets is to get cheap onions, then may as well opt for seeds, which will be even cheaper and at least a bit more interesting.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: mumofstig on January 09, 2014, 20:24
Onion sets seem to be the easier option for many  ;)
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Post by: gavinjconway on January 09, 2014, 20:52
Hi Gardenshed.. If you want to do a few to a couple of hundred or so onions go to the pound shop and buy a packet of sets - best price and value for money. They have 300g packets with 100 sets in each. Plant from mid March - simples..

Or... you can get your seed, sow them in heated propagators or hot windowsill etc. Then grow them on either by potting on or leave in situ to get to 3mm / matchstick diameter thickness then plant out.. Careful the cat dosent knock them over or they dry out and die, or... or... or... all sorts of things can go wrong. To me it is far easier to do sets. In the past I always used to do sets but nowdays I do both because I love tinkering.. I also grow about 500-600 onions each year plus my shallots and pickling etc.. So I get a few packets of seeds and start them off Dec / Jan. Then I get a few packs of sets and start a pack off in modules for a quick getaway early crop and then more as a normal crop from mid March/April. The sets also go in about the same time.

Growing from seed is rewarding but from sets is sooo much easier.

I always grow a packet of winter onions to get me picking as green onions on 1st May every year as a little filler before the early sets are ready. This way my stored onions only have to last till 1st May which is the norm for me most years. Once I start eating the winter onions as green onions I just progress to the normal crop as  they just keep growing and getting bigger all the time. By the time they are all ready for pulling out I normally have about 400 left to store.

Oh BTW ... a seed or set still only gives one onion!!  :D  :D
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: Totty on January 09, 2014, 21:47
There is a massive amount of choice when growing from seed. The choice when buying sets is much much more limited. Just grow from seed now, far less bolt.

Totty
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: Madame Cholet on January 09, 2014, 21:53
sets are esay if you don't have much room at home for growing as they go straight in the ground.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: pigguns on January 09, 2014, 22:06
But am I missing something about onion sets - it just seems strange and a little pointless.  Fruit tress grow lots of fruit, potatoes grow lots of potatoes, strawberry plants grow lots of strawberrys, garlic clove will grow a bulb, but onion sets grow nothing, just get bigger.  If the motivation behind onion sets is to get cheap onions, then may as well opt for seeds, which will be even cheaper and at least a bit more interesting.
oh thank goodness.  I've always thought this too.  Maybe we garden for a different 'fix' gardenshed.  I just don't see the point of sets.  Am trying seeds this year, for fun.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: Salmo on January 10, 2014, 09:15
First time growing onions, definately grow sets. Onions from seed are technically quite difficult. Sets are reliable unless you do something very silly.

Plant sets straight into the ground late March/ early April. Check for a few days that birds/mice have not pulled any up and replant them. Keep free of weeds. Harvest.
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Post by: mumofstig on January 10, 2014, 09:18
You can only grow from seed if you have somewhere to grow them til March - if not it has to be sets!
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Post by: Nobbie on January 10, 2014, 09:25
I've always had great crops from sets, with the exception of the reds which always seem to bolt. I'm trying seed this year to get some red onions and also to get some longer storing onions. It is a lot more effort though, but all good fun. I think with onions, I grow them so I don't have to buy them, so if they didn't bolt and stored better I'd stick with sets.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: devonbarmygardener on January 10, 2014, 11:11
I've always grown a successful summer crop from sets.
Autumn planting sets I've found to be a waste of time so far.

This year I've been persuaded to try onions from seed :D so I'm taking up the challenge!
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: sowitgrowit on January 10, 2014, 11:38
Onions from seed for the first time for me, this year.  Since our allotment is mostly about saving money, I'm keen to have a go at something that can give me 400-odd onions from a 99p pack of seed!
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: Mattgregory27 on January 10, 2014, 13:55
This will be my first full year on the plot and I will be trying both seeds and sets and seeing what works best for me. I think it is just nice that I can get a pack of seeds out straight after Christmas and get something going!!  :D
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: New shoot on January 11, 2014, 08:52
That's what I like about seeds as well Matt  :)  Its just nice to have them on the windowsill and then later on, out in the greenhouse, when not a lot else is going on  :)

If you have the room/growing conditions/inclination to try seeds, there are a few advantages.  I grew both sets and seeds last year.  Quite a few set grown ones bolted, but not a single seed grown one.  The seed grown ones also grew bigger and out performed the set grown ones by far.

As others have said, the choice of varieties from seed is great and as I usually pick my onion seeds up in the 50p seed sales, they are an inexpensive crop to grow  :)
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: al78 on January 11, 2014, 17:05
You can only grow from seed if you have somewhere to grow them til March - if not it has to be sets!

You can sow direct outdoors in March as well.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: jaydig on January 12, 2014, 17:09
I've tried both sets and seed, and I seem to have more success with seed in that I don't get so many bolting. I have used heat treated sets and still have a problem with some of them bolting.
Title: Re: Onion Seeds or Sets?
Post by: Trillium on January 12, 2014, 17:13
I've also used both over the years, and find seeds work best for me. Mind, I must get them started very early so they're a good size for planting out time.