Allotment Gardening Advice Help Chat
Growing => Growing in Greenhouses & Polytunnels => Topic started by: andyw on March 19, 2012, 09:55
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I had the heater on in the greenhouse lastnight and checked all was well this morning. I've had the heater running this morning still with the door and window shut, but when I checked about 15 minutes ago nearly 80% of the peppers and about 50% of the tomato plants are hanging over with the leaves touching the compost. The temperature in the greenhouse was 37c until I opened the door and window. Has either the frost or the heat this morning killed some of these off? I'm a little bit annoyed as they were doing really well :(
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Could be either.
I have a heated greenhouse, but won't consider putting my plants in there until April.
Tomatoes need a minimum temp of 10C and will cook at almost 100F!
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How big are they ? my toms and peppers are only 2 inches high and keep bending and straightening again, I assumed it was the sun as they are on kitchen windowsill. I do know from past experience they can wilt in high temps even when fully grown but mine always perked up again.
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that is about 37c which is what the greenhouse was even if it was just an hour, I've some others that are in a propagator still, but it's still a shame if they die.
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Only about 1.5 inches, I guess if they don't pick up by the afternoon then they're dead?
How big are they ? my toms and peppers are only 2 inches high and keep bending and straightening again, I assumed it was the sun as they are on kitchen windowsill. I do know from past experience they can wilt in high temps even when fully grown but mine always perked up again.
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Doesn't sound very likely that they have been frosted!
They have probably wilted in the heat, and should pick up - they won't have enjoyed either the high temperatures or the sudden cooling off.
What sort of heater is it? If electric you would benefit your plants and your electricity bill by fitting a plug-in thermostat - an automatic vent opener would also help to avoid excessive temperatures, especially when you're not there to keep an eye on things.
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We had a frost here last night!
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We did to, but I had the electric heater on, if it was the cold can I expect them all to die? They've gone from cold to hot in a very short time.
We had a frost here last night!
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If the temperature shot up that fast this morning I think it very unlikely they were frosted last night with the heater on.
belt = thermostat, braces = auto vent opener! :)
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Ok thanks. I've just checked and they have perked up a little. When it's gets warmer can you leave the door and window open over night?
If the temperature shot up that fast this morning I think it very unlikely they were frosted last night with the heater on.
belt = thermostat, braces = auto vent opener! :)
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With the likes of tomatoes, peppers, and cucumbers you've got to aim to keep the temperature no lower than around 10C, but no higher than around 30C - obviously this presents different challenges at different times of year, and your general location and your greenhouse's particular location will have a bearing on it too.
A max/min thermometer obviously helps keep track of what is happening in there, but the exact combination of opening and closing routines needs to be learned by experience of the changing seasons and day-to-day weather.
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All too true. It was 0 overnight in my (unheated) glasshouse but it was 38C at 8am.
I've just started the out during the day and in at night thing for my toms peppers and Aubs ::)
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I always knew that this was to be a steep lerning curve, so if does not turn out to be a good season for me at least I will be able to start next year with some experience.
Also my greenhouse seem to be above 30c already when the sun is out!
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Don't worry unduly about it - the keyword is "aiming" to hit the temperature target - not many of us are perfect shots (certainly not me!) and most plants are fairly forgiving as long as they're not subjected to real extremes (I exclude cucumbers from that generalisation though! :nowink:)
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I can confirm that they all look ok now. Many thanks.
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If it is really bright and sunny the temperature really hoiks up, and the seedlings' roots cannot keep up with the water lost by their leaves --- hence they wilt.
I lay a single sheet of newspaper over mine on days like that... it certainly helps, and they get plenty of light
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thanks really helpful.
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I returned back yesterday to find that my tomato plants are now up to a foot tall. Are these ready to be planted into grow bags now?. Also I have read that when planting it's a good idea to remove the or leaves and plant dealer, is this the case?
Man thanks
Any
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I think you have a finger/keyboard interface problem, Andy. Could you clarify please?
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I think you have a finger/keyboard interface problem, Andy. Could you clarify please?
I think he means Deeper.
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Sorry I did mean deeper, still in holiday mode.
I think you have a finger/keyboard interface problem, Andy. Could you clarify please?
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Ah, I take it you mean lower leaves and you haven't changed your name! :lol:
I don't actually remove any, but certainly plant lower, up to the healthiest leaf. At this stage, in my book, removing healthy leaves increases the risk of infection and the plant also needs them.
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Yes my name is Andy and not Any ???
Ok thanks. I have a few of those bottomless large pots that are designed to go on top of the grow bags I think? am I correct in saying that has the plan grows you add more soil to the stem, or is this a waste of time?
Andy
Ah, I take it you mean lower leaves and you haven't changed your name! :lol:
I don't actually remove any, but certainly plant lower, up to the healthiest leaf. At this stage, in my book, removing healthy leaves increases the risk of infection and the plant also needs them.
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Not, it's not a waste of time as the plants will put out roots from the part of the stem covered up.
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Great thank you DD, I will plant out all the large plants tonight. I will also monitor the temprature as well and use the heater when it's cold.